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Friday, September 20, 2024

Links - 20th September 2024 (1 - Haitian Migrants in the US)

Lucky on X - "This factory owner in Springfield, Ohio is the face of evil. Throughout the interview, he shits on locals, mocks their drug addictions, and hopes for even more Haitians to flood the town."
Creme Egg Nationalist on X - "Weird that he can't find the other 30 Haitian employees he says he'd like to have, considering the government airdropped him a pool of 20k to pick from 🤔"

Meme - Vagrant of Rhodes 🗡️🕯️ @vagrantwires: "The same people who scream "How dare you insult Haitians, we must respect all cultures even cannibals" are also the first people to happily insult Americans "Yea I hate Americans, they all have drug problems, let's replace them all with foreigners." The banality of evil"
"JAMIE MCGREGOR: I wish I had 30 more. Our Haitian associates come to work every day. They don't have a drug problem. They will stay at their machine. They will achieve their numbers. They are here to work. And so, in general, that's a stark difference from what were used to in our community."

Meme - Lucky @TheMagaHulk: "It looks like the Americans didn't like being overworked and underpaid so McGregor replaced them with Haitians."
RealJeffGfetus @RealJeffGfetus: "The Americans complained too much:"
Carla Pennington: "They say they are a family oriented company but literally could care less. They make their employees work 6-7 days a week with no time for family."
John Diehl: "They don't care about their employees only care that you work 6-7 days a week and have no interest in your work or personal life and any complaints fall on"

Springfield, Ohio, man reported Haitian migrants snatching geese - "A Springfield, Ohio, resident on his way to work called 911 to report spotting four Haitian migrants snatching geese near a city park just two weeks ago, according to a newly revealed recording... “I’m sitting here, I’m riding on the trail, I’m going to my orientation for my job today, and I see a group of Haitian people, there was about four of them, they all had geese in their hand,” the caller told a dispatcher.  He said the group — two men and two women — were each clutching one of the birds when they took off in a gray Toyota Tacoma truck. The caller gave a portion of their license plate he was able to make out...   Critics have said the claims are racist against the black Haitian migrants."

Exclusive: Police Audio Confirms Haitian Goose Hunting In Ohio - "According to a police report reviewed by The Federalist, the call was placed on Aug. 26, before the Columbus suburb located roughly 50 miles from the state capital became nationally known this week for epitomizing the nation’s migrant crisis. The caller told the dispatcher he saw four migrants in total, two men and two women, each carrying a single goose."

Attorney General Dave Yost on X - "There’s a recorded police call from a witness who saw immigrants capturing geese for food in Springfield. Citizens testified to City Council. These people would be competent witnesses in court. Why does the media find a carefully worded City Hall press release better evidence?"
Clearly, the Ohio Attorney General is a far right conspiracy theorist who needs to be fired

Meme - Lucky @TheMagaHulk: "Reddit has weighed in on the stories about Haitians eating geese and pets in Springfield, Ohio.  The verdict: Geese are a pest so it's wonderful that Haitians are hunting and eating them.  And we're racist for noticing."
"Jesus, it's all racist fear mongering. They just want a better life for their families. They want a safer place to live where they can put food on their tables, a roof over their heads, and clothes on their backs. Sounds an awful lot like the story of millions of other immigrants to our country over hundreds of years. Our ancestors all came not knowing the language or culture and brought strange foods and ideas. They are no different than our ancestors. Instead of spreading nasty rumors about them on the internet it would be great if people would actually try to help find common ground between their culture and ours. I do believe the goose story is true. Geese are a common food source in many countries. I didn't even realize Canadian Geese were a protected species until that story started circulating, it's likely the person who was found to be hunting them in the park didn't know either. They're a nuisance and I'd happily see them on someone's table instead of filling our parks with so much poop you can't even walk in the grass. The real issue is racism, pure and simple. They didn't take jobs from white people, they took jobs white people weren't filling. They are here legally and have every right to be. Some things have been hard like the influx of kids on an already poorly run school district and the fact that our city council can only spend their meetings listening to racist complaints instead of actually conducting business. The sooner people concede to the fact that they're here to stay, the sooner we can move on to actually effectively solutions to the actual problems we're dealing with here."

PaintSandRepeat on X - "We can’t build a factory or infrastructure because of some spot eyed newt existing within 10 miles of a spot, but oh hey when the illegals start eating the wildlife? Sure thing, that’s just their culture"

Pete on X - "The average worker in Haiti is to too dumb to understand alphabetization, even after being taught. Government offices spend hours looking through every file (takes many hours) to find routine records."
Jeremy Kauffman 🦔 on X - "I've been reading Scott Alexander for more than a decade, so it's funny to see who's sharing his Haitian story these days."
Bringing medical care to Haiti
Previously shared

Jeremy Kauffman 🦔 on X - "Haiti has an average IQ of 67. Let's talk about what that means:
- With an IQ of 67 or below, the average Haitian -- over half the country -- would be considered too disabled to be eligible for the death penalty. Someone at this level will struggle to understand the cause-and-effect of basic things, as well as to participate in American society at all. Even filling out forms will be hard.
- At 1 standard deviation (SD) up from 67, we have an IQ of 82. Around 1 in 6 Haitians are intelligent enough to be a below average janitor. This is the level of intelligence of poor urban areas in America.
- At 2 SD, we're at 97, or roughly average intelligence in America. Around 2% of Haitians will be as intelligent as your average high school classmate and could be clerical workers or cooks.
- At 3 SD, we're at 112. This is approaching the territory where useful creative and STEM work can be done (e.g. engineering). This is about 1 out of 1000 Haitians.
- At 4 SD, we're at 127. These are the people who will come across as bright in your interactions with them, but still wouldn't be "gifted". They can perform almost all high status professions. There are only 440 Haitians in the entire country that are this intelligent, out of a population of 11 million.
- At 5 SD, we're at 142. We're in gifted and potentially genius territory. These are people who can invent, create, and contribute at the highest level. There are approximately 3 of them in the entire country of Haiti."
Naturally, there were a lot of ignorant people in the replies dissing IQ

Meme - James Lindsay, anti-Communist @ConceptualJames: ""trust government experts""
"Cuomo aide Melissa DeRosa admits they hid nursing home data so feds wouldn't find out"
Kevin @kevingwilkes: "So, when the city manager says and governor say it's not happening, it's not happening. Right?"

Christian Collins on X - "50 illegal aliens were flown to Martha's Vineyard, and Democrats threw a fit. 20,000 Haitian illegal aliens take over the small town of Springfield, Ohio, and Democrats are silent. Democrats don't care about average Americans."

Big Fish on X - "Reminder; wealthy liberals in Martha’s Vineyard shipped away 50 illegals in two days. They claimed they did not have the resources to keep them. This same class of people wants economically struggling central Ohio town to take 20,000 with open arms."

Auron MacIntyre on X - "When DeSantis shipped 50 illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard the National Guard was rounding them up within a day When the Biden admin drops 20,000 migrants on a small town in Ohio that's just the new normal"

‘Illegal Haitian immigrants stealing ducks, cats and eating them’: Ohio residents - "Recently, Springfield residents slammed the local City Council for the large influx of Haitian immigrants stating that they have become the occupiers and have been replacing the native population in Springfield. Notably, Springfield, Ohio is a small city in the USA with a population of less than 60,000. However, it has been overwhelmed by roughly 20,000 Haitian immigrants in the last three to four years.   While the US media and concerned officials say that the Haitians have come to the US legally for jobs, locals have alleged corruption in allowing illegal immigration. According to them, ‘Illegal Haitians’ have been harassing them, occupying their properties, forcing them out of their houses, and eating their pets and wildlife adding that they “can’t take it anymore”.   Several videos of Springfield residents testifying before the Council meeting are doing rounds on social media. In many of these viral videos, they have stated that ‘Illegal Haitian’ immigrants have been stealing ducks, geese, and other pet animals including cats. According to them, after decapitating them, the Haitian immigrants eat these local livestock.   It is pertinent to note that while the Haitian population has been increasing rapidly in the last few years, tensions erupted last year after an immigrant driver from Haiti killed an 11-year-old boy and injured 23 others... A resident named Glenda Bailey told the city committee, “They have become the occupiers. What they’ve done is they’ve replaced the population in Springfield.” She also warned that they would soon become the majority and kick everyone else out.  A frail woman lamented that the Haitian immigrants ‘squat’ on their lawns and had driven them out of the house in which they had been living for over 45 years. She recounted that she did all she could and made concessions with them and “tried to help” them but they “squat” on her property.   With a trembling voice, she said, “I’m done with what I’m seeing. It is so unsafe in my neighbourhood anymore.”... Fearing for their safety, she revealed that her elderly husband had decided that they would leave their home of 45 years"
The reality of lived experience is only important when it pushes the left wing agenda

Collin Rugg on X - "NEW: Springfield, Ohio man says Haitian illegals are decap*tating ducks from parks & eating them, accuses commission members of getting paid off for allowing it.  “They're in the park grabbing up ducks by their neck and cutting their head off and walking off with 'em and eating them.”  “Who is getting paid? Like how much money is y'all really getting paid? Like to bring them over here, like I know it's deeper than them.”  Springfield is a town of about 60,000 people and has received about 20,000 illegals in the last four years."

Collin Rugg on X - "Springfield, Ohio woman says homeless Haitians are trying to camp out on her front yard, says she “wants out of this town.”  “I have men that cannot speak English in my front yard, screaming at me, throwing mattresses in my front yard.”  “Look at me, I weigh 95 pounds. I couldn't defend myself if I had to. My husband is elderly.”  “I don't understand what you expect of us as citizens. I understand they're here under temporary protected status and you're protecting them, and I understand that our city services are overwhelmed and understaffed, but who's protecting us?”  “Who's protecting me? I want out of this town. I am sorry. Please give me a reason to stay.”"

Ohio woman ate cat in front of people after killing it, police say - "A woman in Ohio was arrested after police say she stomped a cat to death and ate it in front of multiple people.  A 27-year-old woman was charged Wednesday with cruelty to companion animals, according to Stark County court records.  Canton police arrested the woman on Aug. 16 after they say she killed and ate a cat in a "residential area in front of multiple people," according to an arrest report obtained by USA TODAY."
Weird. We're told that no one is eating cats (including by journalists, so it's not just random nobodies). The cope is that it's a black American but apparently black Americans aren't people

Meme - Nate Hochman @njhochman: "One of the equally admirable and frustrating things about Americans is how open-minded they are. Even when their town is literally getting invaded by Haitians, their first instinct is to try to patiently explain to the invaders why they need to behave themselves."
Haitian Community in Springfield Ohio: "Dear Non-citizens of Springfield.I writing to help communicate the gap between US citizens and Non-citizens. I have read about some of your countries and it was scary. I understand why you left.But there is a huge cultural difference. So if you want to be part of this great country then you need to understand and learn our culture. So here are some things you can do to make this better: Don't follow the women and children, it is highly offensive. Don't stare at us. Learn to drive respectfully and responsibility. Crashes in this town are way up due to non- citizens, causing responsible citizens insurance rates to go up. Walk on the sidewalks not the streets especially at night. Be polite, use words like excuse me and thank you. Don't go around yelling in the store, it is assumed an emergency situation. Don't open food in the store and start eating it, you are supposed to pay for it first and eat it at home. Don't play with the groceries in the store, especially the children. This is considered rude and unsanitary. Don't push people with your shopping carts, again this is very rude. When you go to a garage sale, you must pay for those items, they are not free. Just don't go walking off with items, that is stealing. Smile once and while be grateful , we don't owe you anything. This is only a parcel list. Go to church. start living a better way."

US Election: Explanation behind viral photo of man holding geese revealed - "The anonymous man who was snapped carrying the bodies of two birds earlier this week was removing them from the street after they were hit by a car, the Ohio Division of Wildlife confirmed... Weeks later, a Springfield resident called 911 to report spotting four Haitian migrants snatching geese near a city park."
There're still other reports of geese being eaten, though

malmesburyman on X - "Haitians, by far the worst people in the western hemisphere, becoming the face of mass migration is catastrophic for the left. Even they aren’t surprised the Haitians are stealing and eating pets. This people is the source of Zombie legend for a reason. Cannibalism isn’t far off."

GrumpyTiredLizard on X - "Because of course, only immigrants get in traffic accidents.   Christ you people are pathetic.  Not to even get into the small fact these Haitian migrants are almost all legal refugees who moved to Ohio for a job.  But I know facts are too much.  Thus the subject swapping"
Left wing logic: if I can find one instance of X happening in Group A and in Group B, we cannot say that X happens in Group A and Group B at different frequencies. Of course, they never apply this to, say, white men doing mass shootings or white people being shot by the police, but only when it pushes the left wing agenda
Apparently 20,000 Haitians got work visas to move to one city for jobs

John LeFevre on X - "The fact that Haitian immigrants are eating pets in Ohio isn't even the worst part.  The Biden-Harris administration has secretly flown in over 320,000 unvetted Haitian immigrants into the United States. Then, in June 2024, Mayorkas gave them special protective status to prevent them from being deported.  This represents an influx of people, sadly, from an inferior culture, and they are bringing their 3rd world values here:
- The average IQ in Haiti is ~78. (Context: An IQ of at least 75 is required to be considered competent in a court of law.)
- Haiti is by far the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere, with a GDP per capita $1,748
- Haiti is the 20th most deadly country in the world, with 40.9 homicides per 100,000
- Haiti's education system is ranked 177th globally in terms of national spending on education, with a literacy rate of 61%
- Haiti has one of the highest prevalences of communicable diseases in the world, and the highest STD and tuberculosis rates in the Western Hemisphere
- Nearly 40% of Haitians practice some form of Voodoo, which involves witchcraft and animal sacrifice
- Haiti ranked lowest on the Human Development Index in the Region of the Americas
In no way does this make our country better; they don't even make street tacos."

Sarah Sansoni on X - "COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE  More from Springfield, Ohio  This town went from having a population of 60k to getting 20k Haitians in just a few years.  I’ve been watching this city council meeting on and off throughout the day.  This woman says the majority of the people going to get the “free services “ are Haitians.  You cannot have open borders and a welfare state. A separate article about this situation from The NY Times also mentioned that wait times at hospitals are going up and school teachers have said this is not sustainable."

Frank DeScushin on X - "I know several Haitian immigrants, and they're nice people. Immigration advocates play on such personal experiences so people don't focus on the big picture that mass migration changes communities and ultimately countries. People aren't wrong to oppose that.  My experiences with immigrants are skewed because the immigrants I know are largely white-collar professionals. The same is true for the politicians who support mass migration. Their experiences and mine aren't representative of people in communities throughout America dealing with a different class of migrants, yet politicians act as though they are.  Also note that the politicians who say you can't indict an entire immigrant group based on the actions of a few, are often the same politicians who indict the police or white people as racist based on a few people's actions."
You can't make negative "generalisations" about "minorities" based on many cases, but you can make positive generalisations about them based on a few cases. You can't make positive "generalisations" about "majorities" based on many cases, but you can make negative generalisations about them based on a few cases.

Circe on X - ">people getting pets instead of having kids
>fertility rates collapse
>import Haitians
>Haitians eat the pets
>people start having kids again to compensate
4D chess if you think about it"

Joey Mannarino on X - "My comment section is now full of liberals defending the rights of Haitian migrants in Ohio to eat pets. Just read through the comments on the video pinned to my profile. At this point, this country deserves what it gets. These people are beyond reaching."

The Cat Eaters of Ohio - "The establishment media was not amused. During the debate, ABC’s David Muir dismissed Trump’s rhetoric with his version of a fact check, citing the Springfield city manager’s statement that “there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.” Other publications went further, blasting the former president for spreading a “racist smear,” a “century-old stereotype,” and a “cat-eating conspiracy theory.”  So, is there any truth to the charge? We have conducted an exclusive investigation that reveals that, yes, in fact, some migrants in Ohio appear to have been “eating the cats,” though not exactly in the manner that Trump described. Our investigation begins in a run-down neighborhood of Dayton, Ohio, the closest major city to Springfield, about a half-hour’s drive away. We identified a social media post, dated August 25, 2023, with a short video depicting what appear to be two skinned cats on top of a blue barbeque. “Yoooo the Africans wildn on Parkwood,” reads the text, referring to Parkwood Drive. The video then pans down to two live cats walking across the grass in front of a run-down fence, with a voice on the video warning: “There go a cat right there. His ass better get missin’, man. Look like his homies on the grill!” We spoke with the author of the video, who asked to remain anonymous but confirmed its time, location, and authenticity. He told us that he was picking up his son last summer, when he noticed the unusual situation. “It was some Africans that stay right next door to my kid’s mother,” he said. “This African dude next door had the damn cat on the grill.”  We then identified the home by matching it to the visuals in the video and cross-referencing them with the eyewitness. When we knocked on the door of the first unit, a family answered, telling us they were from the Democratic Republic of the Congo and that all of the surrounding units were occupied by other African migrants. One of the residents told us that her former neighbors, also from Africa, had lived in the adjacent unit until last month. They had a blue grill and the father would find meat in the neighborhood. “Her dad was going to find meat,” she said. “Her dad was going, holding a knife.” The current residents also showed us a blue grill of the same make and model as in the video, which the former neighbors had abandoned after they moved out. There were at least ten cats wandering around the complex and another resident complained that they were breeding on the property.  According to the original witness, whose son was friendly with the neighbors, there was no doubt about what happened last summer. “They was barbecuing the damn cat!” he said. His son’s mother had previously witnessed the family butchering a mammal on the street, but the cats on the barbeque put him in such a state of shock, he felt the need to film it. To be clear: this single incident does not confirm every particularity of Trump’s statement. The town is Dayton, not Springfield; cats alone were on the grill, not cats and dogs. But it does break the general narrative peddled by the establishment media and its “fact checkers,” who insisted that this has never happened, and that any suggestion otherwise is somehow an expression of racism. It takes only a single exception, however, to falsify a hypothesis, and the logical next step, for any honest broker, is to ask if it is happening more often, and elsewhere. It is not implausible. Many developing nations, including the Congo and Haiti, have traditions of animal sacrifice or consumption of what Americans would consider household pets. And if this occurred in Dayton, where the migrant population is relatively small, it could be going on down the road in Springfield, where it is relatively much larger. Independent journalists are already on the hunt and could reveal more. The Daily Wire has dispatched a reporter to Springfield to investigate. The Federalist has published a police report with allegations that a group of Haitians emerged from a city trail with dead geese in hand. Ohio’s attorney general, Dave Yost, has backed up this claim, arguing that citizens with such firsthand knowledge “would be competent witnesses in court.” There is a legitimate debate to be had about migration and culture. All immigrants bring with them a particular tradition, which, in the case of countries such as Haiti and the Congo, can include practices that many Americans find disturbing. This cultural divide causes understandable consternation for non-migrants living in the rougher parts of places like Dayton and Springfield. They don’t enjoy the luxury of many in the establishment media, who can maintain a safe distance, condescending to those who raise the alarm while not even bothering to investigate anything themselves.  These revelations do not mean that assimilation is impossible, but the establishment will need to engage in a more honest debate, rather than simply smearing critics as racists and conspiracy theorists. One can make the case for migration, but one cannot, at the same time, deny that it comes with costs—which, in this case, seem to include a pair of flayed cats on a blue barbeque in Dayton, Ohio."
Addendum: The most amusing cope I got in response to posting this was to continue denying that I had presented any evidence. The guy also claimed that testimony wasn't evidence or proof, and that I should Google the definitions of those words, and I told him to complain that the legal system considered it evidence because it convicted people based on testimony.

Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ on X - "CBS News has published a response to the “Cat Eaters of Ohio” story. It’s a supremely dishonest and completely partisan report, but let’s break it down, to show exactly how the establishment media maintains its lines of propaganda.
 The CBS report hinges on two arguments. First, CBS writes: “The video shows what appears to be animal carcasses on a grill. The man filming the footage alleges, without evidence, that they are cats.” Without evidence? The eyewitness directly observed the incident and took a video recording of it—both of which are firsthand evidence. But CBS’s apparent standard, when such evidence violates the establishment narrative, is: Don’t believe your lying eyes.  The report also quotes Dayton’s Democratic mayor, who says there have been “absolutely zero reports of this type of activity.” Which is true, but does not contradict the evidence at all. Nobody filed a police report, so there would be no police report—and the absence of a police report does not mean that something did not happen. This is a convenient way of ignoring the evidence, and laundering lies through friendly media apparatus.
What did CBS not do? Journalism. The network, which has massive resources, did not send a reporter to the scene, interview the eyewitness, interview the neighbors, investigate the visual evidence, conduct background research, or provide a detailed analysis. They simply adopted “don’t believe your lying eyes” as their standard and repeated an empty, evidence-free statement from a partisan political figure.  Now, I’d like to take you through exactly how we produced the story and analyzed the evidence. This is precisely the case that I made in the original piece, that the establishment media is more interested in denial and obfuscation, even when the evidence points the other way...
This farmer, who has processed thousands of animals per year, confirmed that it could not be a chicken in the video... This surgeon, who also has practical experience with animals, explained that the proportions of the animal, particularly the “ileum-to-scapula distance,” resemble a mammal, more specifically, a cat, rather than a chicken...
The CBS News report is not credible and does not make any attempt to investigate the facts. Rather, it simply denied the eyewitness account and firsthand video as “without evidence”—a logical contradiction—and copied a statement from the Democratic mayor, who also did not investigate the matter. There is no indication that CBS sent a reporter into the field, conducted any interviews, or provided any visual analysis. There is no indication that CBS even knows where the incident occurred, something that took our team some time on the ground. As I wrote in my original piece about the story, the establishment media wants to maintain a line of propaganda and wish away any evidence to the contrary, appealing to authority rather than evidence. This is dishonest and does a disservice to productive debate."

Still Boneless on X - "Everything you’ve read over the last couple of days has been about one small town. Just one. Now multiply the children, pets, property damage, etc. by thousands. This is the most important story in the country."

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