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Monday, June 30, 2025

Links - 30th June 2025 (2 - Climate Change)

Will Shackel on X - "Australia’s climate tsar Matt Kean seemed shocked to hear that renewables were subsidised. This is the taxpayer funded activist who thinks Australia can run on solar and batteries and constantly attacks anyone who proposes adding nuclear power to a balanced energy mix."

Lachlan Phillips exo/acc 👾 on X - "I was in Extinction Rebellion for several years. I produced over 60 videos for them and helped with several protests.  I can tell you directly: It was never about the climate. It was about controlling you.   Specifically, it was about mobilising 3.5% of the population into permanent revolutionary protest in order to trigger a Communist revolution. (Per Trotsky, Sharp, Hallam, Mao)  This was told to me directly by some of the leaders of the organisation. I tried to organise some programs to help businesses lower their carbon footprints without lowering profit margins or impacting the GDP, and I was told in no uncertain terms that *solutions* were counter to the goals of the movement and that I should stop.  It was then that I started to realise their true motives, and understand that perhaps I was being taken for a ride.  I learned that Communist countries have had some of the WORST environmental records in existence. What XR was proposing - degrowth, agitation, "decolonisation", post-capitalism and every other agitprop buzzword - would effectively drop civilisation back to a pre-renewable era and force developing nations into a protracted industrial age, leading to ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more carbon emissions than the incremental improvements found by market innovations.  Population density is a critical function of renewable energy infrastructure. You don't have a factory. You have a market ecosystem. That's how technology works. It blew my mind that they didn't understand this.  After years of pushing against fossil fuels, they were suddenly vehemently opposed to Elon Musk and his EVs. It was mind boggling to witness.  I realised that Musk had singlehandedly done more to reduce emissions than the entire climate activist movement combined. And it's not close. Mentioning this, I was met with bewilderment and anger.  It was very hard to come away from that experience with much sympathy for the activist left movement. At their best they were devoid of ideas and completely incapable of making meaningful technological or engineering innovations. At their worst, they were actively working against their own stated goals in order to maximise agitation and mobilise discontent toward a destructive revolutionary movement that would ultimately lead to measurably worse outcomes.  Applying Occam's Razor, it became apparent to me that the goal is Communist revolution, and all these random causes - climate, gender relativism, immigration, BLM, defunding police, Islamisation etc etc etc weren't about triumphing over injustices, but about agitating blocs of useful idiots into a perpetual state of protest in order to seize power and control in the name of Marxist Revolution.  I thought they were creators and visionaries. I was wrong.  True change comes from the builders. Yes there are problems on this earth, but they'll only be solved by you tackling those problems, building useful things and helping to push the species forward.  If you're smart enough to contribute, you belong amongst the builders."
Clearly, if you think climate change is an excuse to push socialism, you're a far right conspiracy theorist who believes misinformation

Judith Curry on X - "JP Morgan's annual energy report is always an excellent read. "after $9 trillion globally over the last decade spent on wind, solar, electric vehicles, energy storage, electrified heat and power grids, the the renewable share of final energy consumption is slowly advancing at 0.3%–0.6% per year.""
Clearly, even more money needs to be spent

Canadian man sentenced to 25 years for attack on Keystone XL Pipeline, US energy infrastructure - "A Canadian man has been sentenced to 25 years in federal prison for attacking energy infrastructure in the United States, causing $1.7 million in damages. A judge ruled that his crimes met the legal definition of terrorism.  Cameron Smith, 50, originally from the Toronto area but living in Astoria, Oregon, was sentenced on Monday. In addition to prison time, he was ordered to pay over $2.1 million in restitution and $250,000 in fines. Smith also faces deportation upon his release... Smith’s defense attorney, Douglas Passon, pushed back, describing his client as a "hyper-aware individual wanting to create awareness about climate change" who intentionally chose remote locations to prevent harm to people.  In the South Dakota case, Smith’s attack led to the shutdown of a Keystone XL Pipeline pump station, causing a leak that damaged surrounding land. In North Dakota, he damaged transformers and infrastructure at an electrical substation, leading to power outages for 243 customers.  During sentencing, Smith told the court he had resorted to direct action out of frustration after years of attempting to raise awareness about climate change through legal channels. He pleaded for a lesser sentence, citing his autism and Crohn’s disease"
Climate change hysteria has very real consequences

EDITORIAL: Food for thought on climate change - "A recent report by the Fraser Institute points out that climate activists who demand governments cut greenhouse gas emissions in agricultural production risk world food security by pushing up the cost of fertilizer and other farming costs. “It turns out that the impact of cutting emissions harms food production much more than climate change does,” the report says. "Surprisingly, a green, low-carbon world produces less and more expensive food and makes over 50 million more people hungry by mid-century.” This becomes a more pressing issue now, with ardent “net zero” crusader, Prime Minister Mark Carney, at the helm... Claims that carbon cuts are a priority because climate change is causing world hunger are alarmist and far from true. “Over the past century, hunger has dramatically declined. In 1928, the League of Nations estimated that more than two-thirds of humanity lived in a constant state of hunger,” the report says. Since 2008, less than one-tenth of the world’s population has gone hungry, although the COVID pandemic and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine have increased that percentage slightly from 7% to about 9% in 2023. “Since 1990, the average number of children dying has declined dramatically from 6.5 million to 2.5 million each year. This is an incredible success story,” the report says. Better farming techniques have resulted in the increased production of food at a lower price, the report says. While the impact of climate change is often depicted as being catastrophic, in reality it will have only a slight impact. “In reality, it means that things will get much better slightly slower.”
Time to blame 'greedy companies'

Pierre Poilievre vows to scrap industrial carbon tax - "If the party forms government, the Conservative leader promised to expand the clean technology and clean manufacturing investment tax credit to encourage companies to lower emissions. For example, he argued that cutting taxes on Canadian steel and aluminum production, which emits less carbon than that of foreign producers such as China, will push those foreign companies to move production here, lowering global emission in the process... Asked if he was prepared to commit Canada to any form of emissions target if he is elected prime minister, Poilievre demurred. “What would my emissions target look like? I treat this as a global problem. By bringing home production from more polluting foreign jurisdictions, we reduce global emissions while growing our own paycheques,” he said. In “axing the tax” on Friday, Carney was cribbing from Poilievre.. Multiple climate policy groups and researchers said Poilievre’s promise to abolish the industrial pricing scheme is misguided. They argue that it is in fact an effective tool to incentivize low-carbon investments in Canada. “ Dismantling industrial carbon pricing would be a mistake that robs Canada of a critical tool to attract billions in investment and create jobs across the country,” said Clean Prosperity President Michael Bernstein said. In a separate statement, the Canadian Climate Institute argued that the industrial carbon pricing system contributes to three times more emissions reductions than the consumer carbon tax and does not directly raise prices for the public."
Clearly imposing a tax attracts net new investment, and if consumers do not see direct price increases, the increases don't affect them (of course, they can just blame "greedy companies")

Two cross-country pipelines could've diverted $38.4 billion from the U.S., new study finds - "The tariff war with the United States could have been very different if Canada had decided to build the Energy East and LNG Quebec pipelines over the past decade, according to a new study by the Montreal Economic Institute. Both pipelines could have redirected $38.4 billion worth of energy products per year to markets other than the United States and the institute argues that the construction of pipelines between Eastern and Western Canada “would have helped diversify Canadian export markets” significantly. In 2023, Canada exported 97 per cent of its crude oil to the United States. “Canada’s high level of dependence on U.S. trade is not unavoidable. It is the direct result of years of policy decisions that have delayed or actively impeded major infrastructure projects,” said Gabriel Giguère, senior policy analyst and author of the report at MEI... both projects now receive a tremendous amount of support from Quebecers and both Liberals and Conservatives support pipeline construction in the context of a trade war with the United States. Former Prime Minister Stephen Harper recently said that Canada should immediately build a pipeline “in the east so we can supply our own country with energy.” Mr. Harper was speaking Tuesday during a panel on energy at the Raisina Dialogue, India’s largest geopolitical conference. However, the costs of building such infrastructures have risen considerably."
Too bad climate change hysteria and sabotaging the economy was more important than performative patriotism by hating the US

Fury as Heathrow's lack of back-up power causes 'a contained version of 9/11': Small fire at power station leaves more than 200,000 travellers, and others forced to turn around in mid-air - "One industry source has claimed that Net Zero is to blame because Heathrow is moving from diesel back-up generators to biomass.   Reform MP Richard Tice said: 'It appears that Heathrow had changed its backup systems in order to be, wait for it...Net Zero compliant’.  ‘They had got rid of their diesel generators and had moved towards a biomass generator that was designed not to completely replace the grid but work alongside it. Their net zero compliant backup system has completely failed in its core function at the first time of asking’... Julian Bray, one of the UK's leading aviation experts said: 'We are all amazed that Heathrow does not have a viable standby independent of the grid emergency power supply but relies on the National Grid. It's not as if Heathrow is short of money - it has a substantial war chest for building the third runway'."

Meme - James Melville @JamesMelville: "The sheer lunacy of Heathrow airport swapping reliable diesel generators with a net zero biomass system."
"The Absurdity of Heathrow's Biomass Fiasco
The power outage that paralysed Heathrow on March 21, 2025, exposes a ludicrous twist in its Net Zero quest: swapping reliable diesel generators for an award-winning biomass system-powered by locally sourced wood chips- that takes hours to fire up. In 2012, Heathrow unveiled its Terminal 2 biomass Combined Heat and Power plant, a 10MW beacon of sustainability, cutting 13,000 tonnes of annually and lauded as the UK's largest "own use" renewable setup. By 2023, it celebrated further green strides, with solar panels and electric vehicles bolstering its eco-credentials. Yet, as an emergency backup, this biomass relic is a farce. Diesel kicks in within seconds, keeping runways lit and skies safe. Biomass dawdles-hours to reach full power, better for steady warmth than sudden blackouts. When a fire at North Hyde substation in 2025 felled both grid and backups, stranding 1,300 flights, it hinted this green darling couldn't cope. The 2023 fanfare over sustainability feels hollow now: Net Zero's noble pursuit has left Heathrow vuinerable, a global hub undone not by storms or foes, but by the folly of prizing untested green tech over proven resilience, leaving passengers to rue an award-winning dream turned nightmare."

Meme - Dangerously Right of Marx: "Literally from the same day."
"Earth is spinning faster than it used to. Clocks might have to skip a second to keep up."
"Melting polar ice is slowing the Earth's rotation, with possible consequences for timekeeping. A new study found that ice loss caused by climate change is redistributing mass on the Earth enough to alter its spin."
Trust the Science!

Darren Grimes on X - "Ed Miliband admits the solar panels he bought for English schools and hospitals are made in China… potentially using coal. So let me get this straight: Labour’s GB Energy is a vehicle for taxing Brits to import Chinese-made solar panels, manufactured with coal power and possibly slave labour?  All so we can feel morally superior while shutting down our own industries?  Make it make sense!"

Green energy tycoons go to war over Ed Miliband’s net zero grid - "Jackson’s key criticism of the UK’s current “crazy” power system is the way it has encouraged developers to build vast wind farms in Scotland, despite there not being power cables to transfer the electricity generated to customers.  This leads to thousands of turbines being unnecessarily turned off, he says, costing billpayers millions of pounds in the process... Vince released a carefully crafted report warning that zonal pricing would be massively complex, delay the UK’s net zero programme and burden poorer households with extra charges. And that was before he launched a personal attack on Jackson.  “I don’t understand why Greg Jackson is evangelical about it,” says Vince. “But part of me thinks that he’s looking for a cause to campaign for and make a name for himself because there are so many better things we can do to bring energy prices down.”"
Ironically, looking for a cause to campaign for and make a name for yourself explains climate change hysteria

Thread by @KallumPickering on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App - "Net Zero = zero productivity? Today at @PeelHunt we publish analysis which challenges the government’s claim that there is no trade-off between Net Zero and economic growth. Two decades of experience suggests otherwise. A thread with lots of important charts
We begin our analysis with a simple observation - that the decline in UK electricity availability, which started in 2006, coincided with the start of structural weakness in UK productivity growth. Electricity availability has declined by 21% since peaking in 2005. This decline has occurred, by and large, due to the planned decommissioning of various types of electricity production facilities – most notably coal and oil, but also nuclear. The infliction point for electricity availability also coincided another trend - the UK became a net-importer of oil and gas in the early 2000s. At this point the story becomes a bit econ101. Declining supply of a key factor of production (energy) in an economy with growing demand. What happens next? Obvious, a precipitous rise in energy costs. Here are industrial energy prices - which had been steady until 2005. And here are consumer prices for energy. . . same story. Roughly stable until 2005, and then everything gets worse as electricity supplies begin to decline. The UK now has the highest domestic electricity prices in the advanced world
Next question - why care about productivity at all? That is easy. Productivity is the major driver of living standards - the broadest measure being GDP per capita. Here we see the same trend as we do in the productivity data - i.e. structural weakness since the mid-2000s. At this point we broaden our analysis to look at a broader sample of economies - 189 to be exact. Here is the relationship between per capita GDP and per capita energy consumption. The conclusion is clear - energy matters for prosperity. We then compare the UK to the US - here we see two very different choices in the recent past. While the US has been growing living standards while keeping energy consumption stable, the UK has been holding its living standards stable while cutting energy consumption.
Let us ask then, yes the UK has paid a price in terms of living standards - but it has it at least made a difference to global emissions? Sadly not. The UK has halved its territorial C02 emissions versus peak - but accounts for less than 1% of the global total... The UK’s decarbonisation efforts, so far, have resulted in weak economic growth, high energy prices, stagnant productivity and no significant impact on global emissions. The silver lining of hope is that official projections indicate a steady rise in electricity available into the middle of the century - which should ease this headwind and (hopefully) help to bring energy costs down. But it hinges on a successful build-out of renewables (and some gas capacity) - which so far have been hampered by planning delays and will require imports of critical minerals from far away places. It won't be easy"
Time to destroy the economy and impoverish everyone in order to virtue signal!

House Committee Says It Finds Evidence of 'Climate Cartel' - "The House Judiciary Committee said it’s found “substantial evidence of collusion and anticompetitive behavior” by the financial industry to “impose radical ESG-goals” on US companies. An interim report published by the Republican-led committee said “a cartel” of financial firms and climate activists sought to replace Exxon Mobil Corp. board members in 2021 after the company declined to make a series of climate pledges.  “Unfortunately, the pressure campaign against Exxon Mobil isn’t an isolated incident,” the committee wrote. “Through coordinated shareholder pressure campaigns at US companies, the climate cartel seeks to use the trillions of dollars it manages to impose its agenda on the US economy and drain it of affordable energy.”... The judiciary committee, chaired by Ohio Republican Jim Jordan, singled out groups including Climate Action 100+ and the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero for leading what they described as a climate crusade... BlackRock Inc., Vanguard Group Inc. and State Street Corp. were sued by a group of states led by Texas for allegedly breaking antitrust laws by boosting electricity prices through their investments."

Tristin Hopper on X - "CANADA: "We have a shitload of natural gas we should sell it."
LIBERALS: "This European company said they'd build us a battery factory and all we have to do is pay for the entire thing."
CANADA: "Okay, but the gas .. "
LIBERALS: "We'll build our OWN auto sector!""

Meme - Chris Brunet @realChrisBrunet: "according to this chart, the entire nation of Canada just spent 5 whole years fighting over a carbon tax that crippled the nation's economy to offset just *37 hours* worth of China's carbon"
"how many hours does it take China to produce 50 Mt of CO2e, answer short"
"About 37 hours, based on China's 2023 emissions of 11.9 Gt CO2e annually."
Weird how China didn't get inspired by Canada to cut its emissions, as climate change hystericists claimed it would

A new energy model is here: ‘carbonizing’ - "When Canada’s next prime minister, Mark Carney, delivered his Liberal leadership acceptance speech on Sunday, the former captain of the United Nations’ climate action and finance squad and global champion of net-zero carbon emissions somehow failed to mention the subject he spent most of the past decade pursuing. The closest he came to referencing his plan to eliminate carbon emissions from the global energy system was a shot at his Conservative opponent, Pierre Poilievre, who Carney said would “allow our planet to burn.” Otherwise, Carney said he would make Canada “an energy superpower in both clean and conventional energy.” Never mind that envisioning Canada as an energy superpower is a concept stolen from former Conservative prime minister Stephen Harper, who invented the slogan 20 years ago. Could it be that Carney has checked out the latest state of the global carbon and energy situation and is now ready to endorse the growing realization that his net-zero carbon target is an impossible objective?... The emptiness of the net-zero crusade is on full display this week in Houston, Texas, where the world’s leading energy corporations and policy-makers are gathered for the annual CERAWeek conference. Ironically, one of the opening-day speakers was Larry Fink, head of the US$11.5-trillion investment giant BlackRock and one of Carney’s cronies who helped fund the 2020 Mainstream report. Fink made it clear on Monday that there is no cheap and fast route to net zero. Regarding decarbonization technology, Fink said the options are “highly inflationary” because of high startup costs. Across the board, “we have to be working side by side in trying to find ways of reducing the cost of wind and solar and other energy sources. But let’s be clear. We are going to be dependent on dispatchable power for a long, long time.” In other words, fossil fuels will be needed. Power companies and their investors, said Fink, are changing their plans as demand for electricity soars. “About four years ago, they would say, if we’re building a data centre, it must be renewables. About two years ago, they said we preferred renewables. And today, they care about power.” But that’s just a flutter of the commentary swirling around the CERAWeek conference that describes the crumbling foundations of Mark Carney’s anti-fossil-fuel campaign, a major inspiration for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s carbon tax and other interventionist energy policies. CERAWeek, organized by S&P Global, is chaired by energy economist Daniel Yergin, who has been warning for years that soaring energy demand and growing geo-political conflict threaten to upset the much-vaunted global energy transition. Last year he warned about “The collision between energy and geopolitics, the struggle to define what (the) energy transition actually means and the turnaround on electricity.” That message looms even larger today. In a new paper on the energy transition crisis in the March-April edition of Foreign Affairs, Yergin and co-authors argue that the share of hydrocarbons in the global economy increased steadily over the past three decades, continuing to make up 80 per cent of global primary energy mix compared with 85 per cent in 1990. Instead of an “energy transition” we are in an “energy addition” with carbon-based energy sources growing in tandem with other sources. As energy demand grows due to tech requirements, political turmoil, mineral production demand and the desperate need for energy in under-developed nations, Yergin says the transition will need to be rethought. “Almost half the population of the developing world — three billion people — annually use less electricity per capita than the average American refrigerator does.” In coming years, Yergin’s paper concluded, “carbonizing” will need to precede “decarbonizing.” A more detailed recent report from JP Morgan by Michael Cembalest reaches similar conclusions... At CERAWeek, the CEO of Aramco, the world’s largest oil company, said that “the current strategy of prematurely switching to immature alternatives has been so self-destructive. New sources cannot even meet the growth in demand.”"

Dramatic cuts in China’s air pollution drove surge in global warming - "A recent surge in the rate of global warming has been largely driven by China’s efforts to reduce air pollution, raising questions about how air quality regulations are influencing the climate and whether we fully understand the impact of removing aerosols from the atmosphere. This extra warming, which was being masked by the aerosols, accounts for 5 per cent of global temperature increase since 1850."
Oops. Clearly, the West needs to cut its own emissions even more to compensate and destroy its economy even faster, as China builds more coal plants

Andrew Neil on X - "The nauseating hypocrisy of E Miliband is jaw-dropping. He and his kind across the political class — Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, SNP — promoted the very energy policies that lumbered Britain with the highest industrial energy costs in the world, making industries like steel uneconomic. They tolerated no dissent from their net zero nonsense even as deindustrialisation gathered pace. And now Miliband has the audacity to pose as the saviour of British steelworkers! In truth, the British political class has shamefully failed them, none more so than net zero zealot Miliband."

The death of the carbon tax - "The carbon tax, once hailed as the simplest approach to curbing GHG emissions — even by the oil and gas sector — is now on life support. And perhaps deservedly so, given its political mismanagement... The carbon tax was also undermined by a growing hodgepodge of federal and provincial regulations, mandates and subsidies to decarbonize the economy. Why tax carbon, people rightly asked, if we have all these other policies to reduce emissions?... Will EV mandates, low-carbon fuel regulations, oil and gas emission caps and clean electricity rules be next for the chopping block? Ottawa’s latest “net-zero accountability report” lists 100 federal regulations, grants, codes and other policies — of which a fifth, including the oil and gas cap and clean electricity regulations, are facing implementation hurdles. On top of this, the federal government has failed to model projections, indicators, a timetable and key measures to reduce emissions. No surprise here — the net-zero agenda is basically unmanageable."

GM to halt EV van production in Ontario to adjust for market demand

The use and abuse of climate science - "Steven E Koonin: Weather is not climate. Weather is what happens every day. It is highly variable – it changes from one day to the next. Climate, according to official definitions, plays out over decades. It changes slowly.  When a scientist sees an extreme-weather event, his first instinct is to ask, how unusual is that? Have we seen similar events before, say in the 1950s, when human influences on the climate were pretty darn small? If so, we might wonder if it’s due to humans at all, or if humans have only a moderate role. Long, precise records are really important in understanding how the climate is changing. In New York City, we had record rainfall in Central Park a couple of weeks ago. We don’t have good hourly rainfall data going back 150 years, but we do have good daily rainfall data. It shows that this rainy day was only the fifth rainiest day in New York City’s history. The rainiest day happened in 1879. There were many other pretty rainy days that were spread out over the past 150 years. So it was not an obvious change in the climate.  You can do the same sort of thing for record-high temperatures, which are not increasing over the US as a whole. This is all quite contrary to what you would take away if you were just reading the newspapers or listening to weather presenters.
 O’Neill: One of the clearest examples of a presumption people make about climate events is around the question of melting ice sheets. When I speak in schools in the UK, I always see kids’ paintings of a polar bear standing on an ice sheet, looking very hungry, sad and lonely. There’s a kind of morality tale – that if only we would change our behaviour to become more eco-friendly, we could save the ice sheets and the polar bear. But you argue that, for example, Greenland’s ice sheet is not shrinking any more rapidly today than it was 80 years ago. So how true is the claim that all the ice is melting and that it’s going to cause huge tidal waves across the world?
 Koonin: It’s certainly true that as the planet is warming, we expect ice sheets on land to start losing mass. On the other hand, as I mention in the book, the rates at which Greenland is losing ice are highly variable. They were high in the 1930s. And then they were low. And then they were high again. This happened even as the globe was warming steadily. So there is most likely a large natural variability in the ice sheets. You have got to take that into account as a scientist if you are going to say that humans are causing the recent melting.  Of course, people who want to create alarm about the climate will point to the past couple of decades and how the melting rate has gone up. But they don’t have an explanation for why it was also going up 80 years ago... If you look at [the IPCC's] most recent report, it features a discussion of sea-level rises. The important thing to understand about sea levels is not that they are rising – they have been doing that for 15,000 years. The real question is whether they are rising more rapidly in recent decades because of human influence, as opposed to the natural rate. The IPCC talks about how the rate in the past few decades has been a lot greater than the average for the 20th century. But it entirely fails to mention that around 1940 it was rising almost as rapidly as it is today. And then it went down. I would fail a student if they did what the IPPC did, because it is not at all an honest presentation of the data."

Left Wingers' Bad Faith Arguments

Arguing with left wingers, you realise that at some level, they know that they're lying.

Here is a relatively compact example:

A: KanekoaTheGreat: "It's wild how progressives openly embrace racism"
"Mamdani says 'white neighborhoods' should pay higher property taxes. THE PRICE IS WHITE"

B: Where did he say that though?

A: *pastes screenshot from his manifesto where he says it*
"shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods"

B: Again where did HE say this?
This is just a meme that could have literally been put together by anyone.
Reverse image search just shows this coming from random twitter posts.

Me: This took me 1 minute to find https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iGn9ws9Ds0x_3kkB1tdM2pxLlbkPtT0k/view?pli=1 (Ed: Homeowner Policy Memo)

It's linked from https://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform So you can't use the cope that it's a fake document

B (within less than an hour, IIRC it was within a few minutes): Now read the whole thing instead of taking shit out of context. It explains why “white neighborhoods” are mentioned.
Oh, what’s the matter? Struck a nerve?

Me: I love the super quick pivot once your original cope was proven to be bs
Cope 

 

This also happens with DEI, where I've repeatedly seen left wingers first insist that there's no proof that DEI discriminates against white straight men, then when presented with evidence that it does, will usually immediately pivot and either justify or dismiss this discrimination (i.e. "this is not happening, and it's good that it is"); I had a good albeit relatively protracted example that I couldn't screenshot in time before the thread got deleted. I'm sure eventually another example will turn up.

Links - 30th June 2025 (1 - UK Grooming Gangs)

Thread by @StarkNakedBrief on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App - "It hasn’t really hit the news yet, but…  Labour is being accused of quietly "killing" the local grooming gang inquiries they promised back in January.  Critics say it’s a betrayal.  Here’s what they've done. Thread 🧵
Back in January, Labour Home Secretary Yvette Cooper promised the country that the government would act on the grooming gang scandal. They pledged to conduct local inquiries. It wasn’t what certain survivors and commentators hoped for but it was something. This week, however, we learned they’ve been quietly dismantling such promises. On January 16th, Cooper announced a national plan to roll out local inquiries into child sexual exploitation across five key areas. The announcement was backed by £5 million in funding and led by a respected figure: Tom Crowther KC, the barrister who chaired the Telford inquiry—which uncovered the sexual abuse of more than a thousand children over three decades. They asked him to help create an independent national framework for victim-centred, locally led inquiries. He agreed. Days later, Cooper stood up in the Commons and formally announced his involvement. But from that point on, the cracks began to show—revealing, perhaps, far more about Labour’s true intentions than they ever planned to admit. Ahead of his committee appearance this week, and still unclear on what his role actually was, Crowther sought advice from former Conservative Justice Secretary Robert Buckland who passed him Jess Phillips’ number—the Labour's Minister for Safeguarding. Crowther texted her, asking if she could clarify “what I was likely to be asked to do and when.” By February 14th—five full weeks Cooper announced his involvement—Crowther still hadn’t received a formal update.  He called the Home Office directly and asked: “Do you still want me?”
The reply from somewhat of a bombshell.  An official informed him that the framework would now be drafted by ministers and advisers. Crowther’s role was no longer central—he could “comment” on a draft, once written, but that was it. In short, it was now Labour-controlled—decisively not independent.  He asked the official to confirm the exchange in writing and was promised an email that day. Seven days passed. Nothing came.  Then, this reportedly happened:
A meeting with the Home Office has since been scheduled—only after Crowther went public with his concerns in the Committee meeting.
It’s an obvious point to make but, on many levels, it seems the government is less concerned with being responsive than looking responsive. Then came the money.  Initially, £5 million had been set aside for five local inquiries. But on March 20th, it was revealed that this funding would no longer be allocated directly. Instead, councils would have to bid for it. Leaving it up to councils to decide whether to “opt in” to a grooming inquiry is not only a vast knock down from what they promised; in certain areas, it’s a glaring conflict of interest.  Some of these councils are alleged to have been complicit—either through denial, incompetence, or outright cover-up in grooming/r*pe gang scandals. Arguably, giving them the power to decide whether to subject themselves to scrutiny is akin to letting suspects choose whether they want to be investigated.  And even if a council does bid, they don’t have to conduct a "full inquiry". Conservative MP Robbie Moore discovered in further correspondence with the Home Office that the money can now be used for “options” that fall “short of a full investigation”—such as “victim-survivor engagement”, “scrutiny,” and “follow-up”.
Meanwhile, the Conservatives—having spent 14 years in government without launching a full, independent inquiry—now says they will add an amendment to the Crime and Policing Bill to mandate a statutory investigation. The move, though no doubt in part politically-motivated, would force a vote in Parliament and—if passed—compel local authorities to participate in inquiries, regardless of whether they want to or not. Outside Westminster, Rupert Lowe has launched his own private inquiry into the scandal. But without statutory powers, it can’t compel testimony, demand documents, or force cooperation from councils or police forces. Still, Lowe remains undeterred. Writing in The Telegraph on Tuesday, he said: “We have to try. I want to be able to say I have done everything within my power to shine a light on the many horrors that still continue today.”"

Samantha Smith on X - "When the abuse scandal in the Catholic Church was exposed, there was massive public outcry from Catholics.  But with Pakistani-Muslim grooming gangs, I’ve seen hardly any Muslims condemn the atrocities committed by their own.  “But It’s not all Muslims” Yes, like it wasn’t all Catholics.  But they still condemned the actions of the minority and accepted the failings that were enabled and covered-up by members of their community.   In fact, there was widespread disgust and demands for swift justice on behalf of the victims. Pedophile priests were prosecuted and church leaders ousted for facilitating abuse.  Yet, I’ve seen Muslims trying to blame the victims, suggest that their “lifestyle” or decisions caused the abuse, downplay the scale of grooming gangs, or even simply claim Islamophobia.  Why does accountability apply to everyone except one demographic? Why could other religions condemn the evil perpetrated by members of their faith but it’s “racist” to expect the Muslim community to do the same?   Why?"

Dr. Maalouf ‏ on X - "250,000 British girls raped by Muslim gangs. But sure, the real threat to women in the UK is native British men. 🤡 *ad portraying white man as aggressor*"

Rochdale grooming gang: The girl kept in a cage and made to act like a dog, a 15-year-old raped and killed with heroin injection from an abuser and an aborted foetus kept in a freezer by police - "A teenage girl who died from a heroin injection, an aborted foetus taken by police without the mother's knowledge and another child made to act like a dog in a cage are just some of the horror stories brought about by Rochdale's grooming gangs.  Dozens of young girls were targeted, abused and raped by gangs of mainly Asian men between 2004 and 2012 in the Greater Manchester town, with police and council bosses failing to investigate credible evidence.  A new report published today revealed the plight faced by the girls who were the subject of this abuse and the struggle they faced to be believed, as well as the harassment when they gave evidence against their abusers.  The damning dossier, which has identified 96 men who are still deemed a potential risk to children, has sparked calls from whistleblowers that there is 'categorically' still grooming taking place in the town... Whistleblower Sara Rowbotham appeared on the verge of tears as she greeted her vindication after years of being 'scapegoated'. The former sexual health worker – who was played by Maxine Peake in the BBC drama about the scandal, Three Girls – was later appointed MBE for services to young people after an online petition attracted more than 300,000 signatures.  'How many more times will it take a drama or documentary and the ensuing public outcry to call people and organisations to account?' she asked. 'We were blamed, and they said it was my fault.'  Today's report makes for distressing reading, revealing the heartbreaking stories of just some of the victims of the depraved gangs of men, many of whom are yet to be brought to justice for their crimes... Among the cases touched upon on in the report is the tragic death of 15-year-old Victoria Agoglia, who passed away after taking a heroin overdose in 2003.  In a letter sent to police, the girl revealed how she was sleeping with 'people older' than her and ' half of them I don't even know their names. I am a slag.'.. In September 2003 she visited the home of a 50-year-old Asian man - Mohammed Yaqoob - who injected her with heroin. She died in hospital five days later. He was later jailed for three and half years for injecting her with a noxious substance after being cleared of manslaughter... the investigation was quietly shelved by police bosses while Ms Oliver was on a three-month break.  It wasn't until eight years later that the beasts behind the operation which saw girls plied with alcohol and drugs before being used as sex slaves came to justice.   Ms Rowbotham said she and her team had been accused of not referring abused children to police, which the report said was a 'gross misrepresentation'.  'Children were being raped every day,' she said. 'Both the police and Rochdale children services told me and kept telling me, it was nothing to do with them.  'Everything being done now, should have been done then. All it would have taken is the right people actually giving a damn.'  Ms Rowbotham said her team were told to 'draw a line under' their concerns after the original Rochdale grooming gang was jailed in 2012... The girl, who even bumped into her abuser in a supermarket after he was released from prison without her being informed, said police told her to just 'lock your door' when she asked for help about the harassment.  Another girl who also gave evidence against her abusers reported that her house was 'trashed, with slag and grass written across the wall', while her shed was burned down and chickens killed in a campaign of harassment. The damning dossier also claims that no action was taken against a 'pimp' who got a 15-year-old girl pregnant, while another child claimed she was kept locked in cages and made to act like a dog or baby, with again, no action being taken against the men allegedly involved.  The report is the third of four written by child protection specialist Malcolm Newsam CBE and former senior police officer Gary Ridgway – and saw apologies this morning from Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham, Greater Manchester Police and Rochdale Council... The report's publication comes a year after an independent review into child sexual exploitation in neighbouring Oldham found the ringleader of a notorious grooming gang, Shabir Ahmed, later jailed for 22 years, was able to continue working as a welfare rights officer by Oldham Council with police failing to tell his employers even after his arrest."
From 2024

Anne Marie Waters on X - "Just heard Starmer talking about how Muslim women are afraid in Britain. It's too much. It really is. It isn't Muslim women being gangraped and tortured - it's white women, by Muslims, but not a word from him about it. It's too much."

Network of Sikh Orgs on X - "This use of the vague reference to ‘Asian’ grooming gangs is extremely disappointing from the Prime Minister.   Part of the problem with this issue has been a fear of not speaking openly about the ethnicity and (or) religion of the majority of perpetrators. This has, in some instances, made it worse for the victims.  We first complained about ‘Asian’ back in 2012. @HinduForumGBR  @hindu_counciluk  @thebritishhindu  @nchtuk    ‘Groups representing Sikh and Hindu communities have complained about the term "Asian" being used to describe the men involved in grooming trials.’
We had a major breakthrough in 2020 (thanks to the efforts of our Director, Lord Singh and @Singhtwo2 ) when the Editors’ Codebook, which @IpsoNews  uses as a framework to adjudicate print media complaints - added a recommendation for editors under ‘accuracy’ - this has been included ever since.    But given the PM’s frankly disappointing use of ‘Asian’ today, we cannot afford to be complacent and we will continue to push for greater accuracy in reporting. This is a matter of significant public interest, and criminality that has impacted our communities too.  2/2   The 2020 recommendation was covered by the @pressgazette  here:   https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/editors-f"
Left wing priorities are clear

smile2jannah on X - "A white grooming gang caught abusing 30 girls. The youngest was 5. Why did this not receive as much attention?"
Denny Zmeen on X - "Because no one covered it up for 30 years, the PM didn't circulate a memo saying these girls "consented", and the perpetrators didn't state these girls were "white slags" who "deserved it". Just the police & judicial system actually doing their job."
Leadpile on X - "You know what I noticed immediately? That in this case they, quite correctly, were talking about a peadophile ring... And not about a "grooming gang". No racial sensitivities here I guess?"
We get told that it is right that Black Lives Matters focuses on black people who are killed by the police, even though many many more black people are killed by other black people, because the State is supposed to protect, so we must obsess over police officers killing, in self-defence, black people who attack them, because the State perpetrating injustice is horrendous. Yet with the grooming gangs scandal, if you point out the State's role in covering up and enabling mass rape, this is racism and Islamophobia

Leo Kearse - on YouTube & GB News on X - "I've seen about a million versions of this tedious whataboutism. "Look! Look! White people can be horrific monsters too! Why are the usual suspects not condemning this? They must be WACIST!!"
1. Everyone did condemn this. However:
2. These monsters didn't deliberately target children of another race because they see them as subhuman.
3. The establishment didn't arrest the victims or their parents, smear them as liars or cover up their crimes "for the good of diversity".
4. Nobody reporting or commenting on these crimes was smeared as "racist" or "Islamophobic".
5. They didn't get more lenient sentences because of "cultural differences".
6. Their families and community don't condone these crimes.
The outrage over the Pakistani Muslim child rape gangs isn't just about their crimes. It's about the British establishment - I don't just mean the state, I mean our society, our culture - covering up and enabling these crimes, and screaming "RACIST!" at anyone who mentioned them. The question is, why are people still making excuses, deflecting and minimising these crimes?"

Ian Miles Cheong on X - "UK’s Head of Counter-Terrorism Policing AC Matt Jukes is currently probing Elon Musk over his posts on 𝕏 pertaining to the grooming gang scandal.   Matt Jukes served as Borough Commander in Rotherham from 2006-2010, which coincided with a peak in child sexual exploitation by Pakistani grooming gangs. Jukes faced significant criticism for his mishandling over the issue, which remains ongoing.   He was accused of not giving priority to cases of child sexual exploitation, failing to act on known reports of abuse, and providing inadequate support to victims, often viewing them with contempt.  Moreover, he has been criticized for hesitancy due to concerns about racial sensitivities, alongside a lack of resources and accountability.  Curious, then, that Jukes would want to go after Elon Musk over a case in which he is directly implicated."

Basil the Great on X - "Tonight a police station contacted a victim of child sexual abuse to tell her to stop talking about the rape gangs that plague our country. If that doesn't terrify you I don't know what will."
S A M M Y woodhouse on X - "I’ve received a phone call from South Yorkshire Police tonight about my reporting on X.   They’ve asked me to delete posts and not to report on Rotherham professionals moving forward even though they’re no reporting restrictions on the case.  I’d like to add, the information I’ve  reported came directly from South Yorkshire Police over 6 months ago.   It’s also been in the public domain for over 6 months.  I’d also like to add the police officer didn’t really have a clue what was going on."

Meme - Into the Memory Hole @frongNscorpion: "Now of course they're scrambling pretending like they care because someone caused a stink. We all could have done this ourselves, many have even tried only to be arrested. The reality of this situation is that if any amount of justice is actually served it would result in so many UK politicians being arrested that their entire government would collapse. That is not going to happen."
"BREAKING: British Parliament votes NO on grooming gangs investigation"

MPs vote against Tory call for new grooming gangs inquiry

شرق‌زده sharghzadeh on X - "Westerners are too polite to talk about such topics, but in our countries, until very recently there was a culture where sexual predation was normalized.  Growing up, my dad passed on stories of known pedophiles in our neighborhood. My grandpa warned me to avoid friendly men who love beardless boys (bachche bī-rīsh).  I grew up with a genuine fear of molestation. I was groped in the bazār and the subway as late as age fifteen! Soon after I grew a beard and no one would bother me.  This culture is dying out in places like Tehran, but taxi drivers from rural areas, Afghanistan, etc., tell me it is alive in their corner of the Persianate world.  Now if you take a group of people from such a culture, and put them in a society where the locals are perceived as sexually open (there is truth to that) and not "one of us" it can lead to horrific situations.  A very close Turkmen friend worked on re-settling Afghans in a small-ish metro in America and had several cases where recently re-settled men were joking about molesting boys.   One was even caught bringing a boy back to his hotel room. Nothing had been done yet, it was seen at the right moment, so it was swept under the rug and chalked up as a cultural misunderstanding.  Westerners have a right to worry about this and demand that our community have no tolerance for this behavior."

@leaherichardson - "Keir Starmer just called the rape gang scandal a far right bandwagon. One girl was turned into kebab meat. One, with 2 babies at age 16, was killed with her family when her house was burned down. One had her back passage inflated with a pump so four men could anally rape her. One 11 yr old was raped with such violence she needed a hysterectomy. These are 4 stories out of thousands This is what the left thinks of working class girls. Sacrificed for an illusion of successful multiculturalism. - "Keir Starmer just called the rape gang scandal a far right bandwagon.One girl was turned into kebab meat. One, with 2 babies at age 16, was killed with her family when her house was burned down. One had her back passage inflated with a pump so four men could anally rape her. One 11 yr old was raped with such violence she needed a hysterectomy.These are 4 stories out of thousandsThis is what the left thinks of working class girls. Sacrificed for an illusion of successful multiculturalism."

Meme - Dane @UltraDane: "The Refugee council of Wales, an official NGO operating in The United Kingdom, purposely uses photos and videos of prepubescent White girls on their website.   Luring child predators into Great Britain is the goal.   The council (which is comprised mostly of men from Pakistan, India, The ME, and Africa) also makes videos of 12 year old girls in "school attire" meant to entice "refugees" into The United Kingdom, Wales especially."

Cillian on X - "Numerous videos have now emerged of schoolgirls being used to promote the Welsh Refugee Council. The initial video that went viral was clearly not an “isolated incident”. South Wales Police should investigate the Welsh Refugee Council as a matter of urgency, instead of me!"

The council bosses who failed victims of the Rotherham grooming gang: How senior leaders have pursued roles as government advisers, bankers - and an 'executive coach and mentor' - "Council bosses in Rotherham who were criticised for failing to protect 1,400 young girls from grooming gangs have gone on to become government advertisers, bankers and an 'executive coach and mentor'... Anger over official failures recently prompted calls to remove a portrait of Shaun Wright - Rotherham council's former director of children's services and the future South Yorkshire police and crime commissioner - from the borough's town hall.   These were rejected by the authority, which found there was no precedent or legal reason to remove the portrait.   While the likes of Mr Wright have struggled to rebuild their reputation following the scandal, some of his former colleagues have gone on to reinvent themselves, with one even moving to Australia to advise on 'human and social services challenges'
Sonia Sharp. Dr Sharp served as director of children's services in Rotherham between 2005 and 2006 and acknowledged her failure to protect girls, saying: 'You can't be the director of children's services and not take responsibility for what happens to children.'...
Jahangir Akhtar.  Mr Akhtar became deputy leader of Rotherham council in 2011, also serving as vice-chairman of the South Yorkshire police and crime panel.   The Jay report suggested he may have decided to ignore a 'politically inconvenient truth' when he claimed not to have been aware of the 'deep-rooted problem of Pakistani-heritage perpetrators targeting young white girls'.  He was forced to 'step aside' from his role as deputy leader following allegations that he had been involved in a deal to help Arshid 'Mad Ash' Hussain, a relative accused of grooming an underage girl... Mr Akhtar was also later stripped of his taxi-driver licence after a 'fit and proper person' test was introduced by the council.
Ged Fitzgerald.  Mr Fitzgerald was criticised for 'missing opportunities' to tackle grooming while CEO of Rotherham council from 2001 to 2003... He was later arrested in 2017 following a probe into financial irregularities at Lancashire county council and resigned from Liverpool city council the next year.  In 2022, he was charged with misconduct in public office and procuring the misconduct of others."

Halifax ‘grooming gang’: Police officer among 16 men charged with sexually abusing girls - "Amjad Ditta is accused of sexual touching over alleged abuse between 2006 and 2009"
From 2019

Rupert Lowe MP on X - "Let's be clear on what happened yesterday - Labour announced a £10 million package to investigate the rape gangs. £10 million. It's pathetic, it's insulting.  Why have they done this? Politics. Labour know their position couldn't work, so they've had to give just enough to look like they're doing something.  It means nothing and nothing has changed. Don't fall for it.  £10 million. Let's make some comparisons...  The foreign aid budget to Pakistan for the financial year 2023/24 was £41.54 million. This year? £133 million.  £500 million has been handed to foreign farmers in aid...  £8 million A DAY is spent on housing illegal migrants in hotels. A DAY!  £10 million to help bring justice for thousands of raped and abused girls is NOTHING.  It's set to take place in just FIVE areas. It's estimated that these gangs have been operating in FIFTY towns/cities. Likely more...  I will say it again.  There needs to be a FULL, FREE, and FAIR national inquiry. And we need DATA.  I asked in Parliament yesterday, again. On court transcripts, deportations, nationality breakdown, reoffences, releases and more. How many answers? ZERO.  It's a cover up. It has been for decades, and it continues even now."

S A M M Y woodhouse on X - "The leader of Rotherham Council, Chris Read has criticised Elon Musk’s recent comments about grooming gangs and child sexual exploitation (CSE) in the UK, suggesting that Musk’s framing of the topic as ‘solely a racial issue’ is ‘unhelpful’.  Do you know what I found unhelpful?   When Rotherham Council invited my rapist into my son’s life when Chris Read was the leader of the council.   He’s got no need to criticise anyone on safeguarding.   If professionals and politicians would do their jobs properly it wouldn’t be left to Elon Musk to highlight it."

Lee Harris on X - "This is painful to watch. Sadiq Khan is asked how many grooming gangs there are in London and he COMPLETELY dodges the question. This is EXACTLY why we need a full inquiry. Sadiq Khan is part of the problem. He's completely unfit for office."

Meme - Soyjak British Police Officer handing you card: "So... We decided to let a Pakistani rape your daughter, here's why:"

Matt Goodwin on X - "Bombshell new poll on UK rape gangs. Keir Starmer is COMPLETELY out of touch with Britain:
-73% want national inquiry into rape gangs
-81% want foreign national groomers deported
-74% want dual national groomers deported
-79% say officials who failed shd be prosecuted
-of those, 66% say officials shd go to prison
-30% back death penalty for groomers + 47% back life sentences. Only 13% want current non-life sentences
Friderichs/JL Partners, broke on @GBNEWS"
Governments not doing what the electorate wants is only oligarchy when it hurts the left wing agenda

max tempers on X - "And he pins the screenshot. There are a lot of theories for Musk's motives but I think, like for myself and many others, coming across the simply horrific graphic nature of what actually went down for the first time is impossible to let go and forget. It's genuinely disgusting."
Left wingers have very poor theory of mind, despite going on about how empathetic they are (in reality, they mean they weaponise "empathy" allegedly on behalf of minorities to ram through their agenda), which is why they don't understand those they disagree with and call them trolls or evil

Labour must stop handing millions to Pakistan as country blocks removal of child sex abusers from Britain, former immigration minister claims - "Grooming gang ringleaders who raped and exploited dozens of young white girls in Rochdale and elsewhere cannot be deported because Islamabad has refused to accept them.  While countries cannot unilaterally send criminals back to their native lands, Pakistan receives millions in aid money from the UK each each year - amounting to more than £1 billion over the last decade.  Last night, former immigration minister Robert Jenrick called for the payments to stop and a visa ban to be implemented until the country starts cooperating... It is unknown how many UK-based criminals Pakistan has refused to accept because the Home Office has refused to release data on the abusers... The pair were among four abusers who desperately tried to dodge deportation by renouncing their Pakistani citizenship, claiming that removal from the UK would leave them stateless.  However, immigration judges dismissed the tactic more than two years ago, saying it would be 'relatively easy' for them to regain their status back home... Although their deportation orders were upheld, the individuals remain in this country, living and working alongside their victims... Mr Jenrick has previously called for foreign aid to be conditional on countries co-operating on returns.  Iraq, which has received more than £400 million in aid from the UK over the last 10 years, has only accepted 150 returns - despite accounting for nearly 15,000 Channel migrant crossings since 2018.  More than half a million has gone to Somalia, Afghanistan and Ethiopia during the last decade. While nearly 18,000 small boat arrivals have hailed from the countries, the UK successfully returned just 13 to Somalia in 2023."

Mario Nawfal on X - "🚨🇬🇧BBC REMOVES DOCUMENTARIES ON UK’S RAPE GANGS, CALLS VICTIMS “LIARS”  The BBC has pulled 2 documentaries exposing rape gangs from iPlayer, leaving only content about a girl who lied.  The BBC is sidelining the UK’s gang rape epidemic while amplifying a false case to downplay systemic failures.  Convicted abusers and broader scandals go largely unreported.  Source: BBC, @ripx4nutmeg"

Raja Miah on X - "I expected resistance when I exposed the cover-up of Pakistani grooming gangs targeting young White girls. What I didn’t expect was the extent to which networks of Islamists and Jihadists would feel emboldened to target me personally. Or how @AndyBurnhamGM ’s politically controlled @gmpolice  would shield those who wanted to see me silenced, even butchered.    These extremists, who share the exact same prejudices as the very rape gangs I’ve spoken out against, have only escalated their efforts. But let’s not feign surprise. This is the grim reality in towns like mine, where police fear confronting these men due to their political connections.    The latest example? A WhatsApp group with the word "bisar" in its title - meaning community judgment by sharia law. Members of this group are circulating AI-generated videos portraying me in homosexual acts. The goal is clear: to portray me as Gay in order to incite my murder within their interpretation of Sharia law.    Let that sink in. Extremists are weaponising technology to incite a hate crime while openly boasting of protection from police and politicians. These men, tied to political campaigns and General Election candidates, are untouchable. Their impunity is not just dangerous, it is deliberate.    This is not just about me. This is about a system that protects extremists over the vulnerable. It’s about @AndyBurnhamGM  and his deputy @KateGreenSU , who must one day answer for why they chose to shield Islamists inciting violence over supporting those demanding justice for the gang-raped children of our communities.  The Public Inquiry is coming. And when it does, even for the likes of Andy Burnham and Kate Green, there will be no place to hide. The truth will be unavoidable.   In the meantime, here you go lads, a more up to date photograph of me. Name the time and place. Bring your black banners and butchers knives. I'll be there."

RadioGenoa on X - "Two drunk 13 year old English girls with no clothes on in a house with seven Pakistani asylum seekers and who arrested the police? The two 13 year old girls because they were drunk. UK is lost."

Carlisle ex-boxer admits racially aggravated social media posts - "Derek Heggie made "grossly offensive comments" in two YouTube videos between 2 and 8 August, Carlisle Crown Court heard... The court heard that, in videos referring to Muslims, Heggie made comments including "young white girls are being raped by these grooming gangs"."
The truth is illegal
He was jailed for 10 months and two weeks

Thread by @SamanthaTaghoy on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App - "I was five years old when my abuse started.  Not a “young woman”. Not a “child prostitute”. Not “promiscuous”.  I was a child.  Those in power turned a blind eye while myself and countless other little girls were being raped, groomed and killed.  #TheyKnew Nobody should be above the law, not even those who make or enforce it.  That’s why we’ve launched the #TheyKnew campaign — to investigate and bring to justice the powerful people who failed to protect little girls like me.  Please donate and share:"

Thursday, June 19, 2025

Links - 19th June 2025 (2 - Migrants: Canada)

Ottawa plans 'multi-stage' vetting process for visa applicants from Gaza amid security fears : r/canada - "1000? Dont be ridiculous
'The government originally said the program would be designed to allow 1,000 Palestinians from Gaza, but Immigration Minister Marc Miller has since said that there would be no “hard cap” on the number of people allowed to use the program.'
Remember the pushback to 25,000 syrians? Trudeau nearly doubled it in response to something like 43,000+ if I remember correctly. Then brought in 20,000 Eritreans. Which is the second worse nation to live in on earth right after north korea Who decided to fight amongst eachother with sticks and bats last year"
"There seems to be a fetish among western nations to import people that make their countries less safe, poorer and have nothing but hatred and contempt for the host nation. It’s rather black pilling."
"They think these people will be perpetually voting for their party. They'll have 5 kids per family and hope the lot of them vote party line. It's a long game."

Anthony Koch: The U.K. is ending open-borders immigration. Canada should do the same - "In one of the most consequential political shifts in recent memory, Starmer has charted a new and unapologetically realist course on immigration. It is a striking departure not only from his party’s past rhetoric, but from the dominant dogma that has guided western policy-making for the better part of three decades: that mass immigration is always an economic benefit, a social good, and a moral imperative. Today, Starmer is dismantling that orthodoxy piece by piece... As recently as 2022, Canada was adding more than a million people per year through a combination of permanent immigration, international student intake, temporary worker programs, and asylum claims. This is not coordinated nation-building, it is unmanaged growth. And the consequences are everywhere: runaway housing costs, collapsing affordability, overstretched hospitals, stagnant productivity, and a generation of young Canadians priced out of the future. But the effects are not merely economic. They are social, cultural, and civil as well. On the streets of Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal, diaspora groups now square off over foreign conflicts with disturbing frequency. Protests turn into brawls. Schools become battlegrounds. Religious institutions face threats and vandalism not for what they preach here in Canada, but for the politics of distant homelands. From Middle Eastern tensions to South Asian rivalries, we are importing divisions faster than we can build cohesion. Multiculturalism without integration has mutated into parallel societies — and at times, outright hostility between them. Prime Minister Mark Carney has indicated an interest in adjusting course. There is growing recognition of the strain posed by ballooning temporary programs. But Liberal changes have been reactive and piecemeal, too little, too late to undo the distortions already set in motion. Despite a decade of record population growth, Canada’s real GDP per capita has stagnated. Productivity is declining. Infrastructure lags far behind need. The promise of a growing economy has not translated into growing prosperity for the average Canadian. And yet the dominant vision remains one of constant expansion. Though Carney has not explicitly endorsed the goals of the Century Initiative, it is noteworthy that his inner circle includes senior figures tied to the group, an organization whose central premise is that bigger is always better, and that Canada should aim to reach 100 million people by 2100. The New Democratic Party offers no meaningful dissent, still clinging to the romanticism of borderless globalism. And the Conservative party, though beginning to voice legitimate concerns about housing supply and integration, has yet to present a coherent and politically confident plan to reform the immigration system. If even Britain’s Labour government, long a standard-bearer of liberal cosmopolitanism, can shift course, what’s stopping Canada’s political class?"

Meme - Bruce @bruce_barrett: "These people milk the taxpayers in Canada, drive SUV’s, have no jobs and then beg for money.   There needs to be more public shaming like this. 👇"
"Caught 1 of the fake homeless morts in Woodbridge in 4K"

When it comes to homelessness, my heart is in danger of bleeding dry : r/canada - "Keep in mind, uncontrolled immigration puts tremendous pressure on entry level positions for careers that used to make a nice living, even as juniors.  I work in IT, part of my job is doing technical interviews. After like eleven failed interviews my boss said, fuck it, we are not hiring juniors anymore. Those guys have a patina of knowledge, enough to fool recruiters and HR, but don't last 10 mins against real questions.  We used to nurture juniors. Not anymore."

Yemeni terror suspect placed under house arrest at Toronto mosque - "A Yemeni arrested as he was allegedly trying to leave Canada to join a Middle East terrorist group has been released on bail to live under house arrest at a Toronto mosque.  A copy of an Ontario judge’s release order obtained by Global News shows Husam Taha Ali Al-Sewaiee was ordered to “reside at the mosque” in Toronto’s North York district... A citizen of Yemen who has appeared at Gaza protests in Toronto, Al-Sewaiee was initially arrested in Mississauga, Ont., by Peel Regional Police on April 15 for uttering threats."
More censorship of "pro-Palestinian" speech! If you don't give him endless appeals, that violates due process and is a Danger to Democracy

Yemeni terror suspect placed under house arrest at Toronto mosque | Globalnews.ca : r/Toronto_Ontario - "The question is, do Canadians now get to have mass protests outside mosques because one of them is holding a promising young terrorist? Do they get to yell things like "go back to where you came from" and "Islam is Nazism" with signs and people in masks with megaphones? Or would that be harassment based on bigotry?  Just curious 🤔"

Uptick in racism, cliques from SouthEast Asians at schools in the past few years? : r/Vaughan - "EDIT: South Asians not Southeast - my bad
My son goes to school in the west Woodbridge where there's a decent chunk of South Asian (mainly Indian) kids who have been moving in. Obviously that's not a problem at all in itself and makes sense given the demographic to the west and the sprawl associated with that.  But, the stuff I'm hearing is really worrying and seems to be getting ignored by admins for fear of retribution / being called racist.  Frequent use of the n-word from them, insulting teachers and students alike in their own language, exclusion of white and black kids from activities, social media groups and group chats that are only in their language, and (of course) parents who berate teachers who dare discipline their children with the excuse of "racism" towards them.  On top of that, t there have been cases of infighting amongst themselves too. Notably this week he said 3 Indian boys threatened and verbally abused a boy who's from Pakistan until a teacher stepped in. The Pakistani boy who, based on my son's description, keeps to himself and is generally shy and non-provocative has missed school since. I suspect this will only get worse as tensions rise between those countries.  Beyond the bullying, there's a generally lack of respect towards cleanliness of the cafeteria, yard, & parking lots. RAMPANT cheating on tests & assignments (via those language-specific group chats)—this one is particularly getting worse and worse. Girls allegedly being SA'd harassed. It's all horrible.  Obviously bullying / cliques have been around since forever but my older daughter graduated from the same school about 5 years ago and said it wasn't ever that bad. We all love that Canada has been a melting pot of cultures but it seems the pot has stopped melting and is overflowing.  For what it's worth, there are quite a few South Asians who are the antithesis of everything above at his school and in life. I'm not saying everyone is like this or that we should assume any one person is. BUT it is problematic that there seems to be an unwillingness to accept Canadian values from a worrying majority in this case.  We NEED to do better at enforcing those values and ensuring teachers are the beacon of those values before they are wiped out entirely.  Parents out there: is this a trend across the board? Or is my son's school an outlier?"
Time to blame white people

The Buck You Will on X - "DID YOU KNOW?  Trudeau’s refugees are getting a FREE $81,760 a year from the Liberal government?  $80 FUCKING GRAND!  That’s $20,000 MORE than the average Canadian salary - and it’s TAX FREE!!  Explain to me HOW THE FUCK IS THIS FAIR to all of us who have worked, are working, & continue to work REAL jobs & pay taxes - not sitting on our asses or out protesting & and being a nuisance?   WHY THE FUCK SHOULD WE BE PAYING THIS?"

Immigrants are driving demand for goat meat in Canada to new heights, but the supply can’t keep up - The Globe and Mail - "In 2021, there were just 253,278 goats (including ones raised for milk or fibre) on Canadian farms. Compare that with 4.28 million beef cattle and 14.1 million pigs the same year (the most recent for which comparable figures are available). And while the number of goats slaughtered here rose by 74 per cent from 2016 to 2024, it still falls far short of satisfying the market. In that same period, the amount of imported goat meat – primarily from New Zealand and Australia – doubled, and now accounts for two-thirds of the robust, gamey protein eaten in Canada... Between the high rate of disease, the time it takes to raise goats compared with other livestock and the cost of processing, lots of farmers enter and then exit the industry after just a few years... The requests of customers are so varied that Mr. Al-Hilal, a Syrian refugee who arrived here in 2016, usually leaves whole goats intact and butchers them on demand. Shoppers from Saudi Arabia and Syria typically ask for “apple-sized pieces” that will be used in rice dishes such as kabsa or maqluba. The ones from Yemen often ask for the meat plus all the organs to fry, stew and cook with rice. Indians want small cubes for curries. Big spenders want the whole animal to prepare as a showy centrepiece at a party. Goat is popular in the global south because it’s leaner than other red meats, its flavour pairs well with robust spices and it can be eaten by many different religious groups. Every December the Canadian Meat Goat Association publishes a calendar that highlights religious holidays and cultural celebrations and what type of goat is preferred for each: Males with tender meat are desired for the Hindu festival of Navaratri, Easter calls for fleshy milk-fed kids and the ideal goat for Eid-al-Adha, the Muslim holiday when an animal is sacrificed, is an intact male at least a year old."

Instagram - "Music on the GO Train is kinda fire tho 😅  🎥 Credit: neetiiisharma / TT"
If you're Indian and dislike passengers playing Indian music on the train so loudly that you can hear it through your AirPods, you have internalised racism
This won't stop left wingers trying to force everyone to use public transport

Similarities in Nigerian asylum claims based on sexual orientation have Legal Aid Ontario asking questions - "Nigerian asylum seekers in Canada are making so many similar claims based on sexual orientation that Legal Aid Ontario is worried some claims may be fabricated.  Jawad Kassab, who leads the refugee and immigration program at Legal Aid Ontario, said the agency has identified an "unusual" pattern in sexual orientation claims filed by Nigerian refugee seekers this year... Kassab said he is concerned that if claims are fabricated, refugees with legitimate claims might have a harder time getting the help they need.  "It galls me because of the potential impact that it could have on the refugee system and the Canadian public's perception of refugee claimants and refugees in a very vulnerable time globally," he said... Kassab said Legal Aid Ontario, which covers the legal costs for most refugee claims heard in the province, became suspicious after a routine review of refugee applications showed that 60 to 70 per cent of about 600 Nigerian claims made in Ontario since April were based on persecution because of sexual orientation.  Kassab described that number as "high, relative to other countries."  Kassab said the stories often involved a married person whose spouse discovered them with a same-sex partner. The married couple then reconciled and they and the same-sex partner all applied for refugee status in Canada over fears of persecution in Nigeria. The fact that a few lawyers were responsible for a "disproportionate" number of claims also raised questions, Kassab said. As a result, he said Legal Aid fears some of the claims are either made up by individual claimants or that legal representatives coach them to do so... Nigerian nationals are the second-largest group seeking refugee status in Canada in 2017. By the end of August, 2,055 Nigerians had applied for asylum, according to Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada... Refugee cases based on sexual orientation are difficult to adjudicate, said Sean Rehaag, a law professor who specializes in refugee and immigration law at York University's Osgoode Hall Law School.  Deciding if someone's being truthful about their sexuality "is a problematic if not impossible task," he said. "
Damn racist, xenophobic, homophobic agency! People would never lie about their sexual orientation for advantage

Plan to let undocumented migrants stay in Canada to be examined by PM, ministers - The Globe and Mail - "Syed Hussan, executive director, Migrant Workers Alliance for Change, said people who are living and working here already would not apply additional pressure on housing.  He said regularizing the status of migrants who are living here could also lead to the injection of billions of dollars into the economy. He said a program to give status to people living in Canada would be a “litmus test” of the government’s commitment to support migrants."
From 2024. Clearly, people don't respond to incentives

Meme - Canadian Immigration: "ARE YOU BRINGING ANYTHING INTO THE COUNTRY?"
*foreign conflicts*

Meme - "I regret to inform you that this is a Korean girl studying in Canada *25 other people, with 1 being black and the rest Indian*"

Tablesalt 🇨🇦 on X - "🚨🚨BREAKING   Immigration Minister Miller BREAKS HIS PROMISE  to reduce parent and grandparent immigration visas to 0 for 2025 applications  Only March 11th he quietly signed a ministerial order allowing 25,000 new visas."

Meme - Daniel Foch @daniel_foch: "Canada's recent population boom has not come with productivity gains"
"Its recent population boom has not come with productivity gains"
*Population surging and real GDP per worker falling*
Weird. We're told that open borders increase productivity and unleash economic growth

Canada's immigration reset could cause chaos, say experts - "“I take responsibility for my decisions, but looking back, I feel like I was brainwashed by immigration agents,” she said. “I had never been to Canada and I didn’t know the environment or anybody here. I had to rely on what they said.”"
Naturally, the Indians then complain that they were missold a bill of goods and blame Canada and Canadians for not living up to the immigration agents' promises

Dan Knight on X - "Well, well, well—Canada’s immigration system strikes again, and this time it’s not just a sieve; it’s a black hole. According to a Globe and Mail article Nearly 50,000 international students—students who were supposed to be enriching Canada's universities and colleges—are nowhere to be found. Poof! Gone. Maybe they’re working under the table, maybe they’ve crossed into the U.S., or maybe they’re just laughing at how easy it is to game Justin Trudeau’s broken system. But hey, who’s counting? Certainly not Trudeau.  This is what happens when you turn the immigration system into a glorified Ponzi scheme. Schools rake in the cash—because international students pay through the nose—but don’t bother checking whether these students ever show up to class. Why would they? There’s no downside for the institutions, no accountability, and Trudeau’s Liberals aren’t exactly known for cracking down on their woke immigration utopia.  Now, let’s talk numbers.  almost 20,000 students from India alone didn’t show up—but don’t worry, the RCMP is “reaching out” to India. Reaching out? What does that mean, sending a polite email asking, “Hey, have you seen our students?” Meanwhile, half the students from Rwanda just ghosted. Half! But Trudeau wants us to believe this isn’t a policy failure—it’s just a little “compliance hiccup.” Sure, and my Labrador runs NASA.  And here comes Immigration Minister Marc Miller with his tough-guy act: schools might lose their ability to admit international students if they don’t submit compliance reports. Oh, bravo! That’ll show them! Never mind that this system has been a cash-grab free-for-all for years under Trudeau. Never mind that these so-called reforms are like slapping duct tape on a sinking ship.  Let’s be honest: Trudeaus Liberals doesn’t care about fixing this mess. Why would he? The whole point is to create chaos now so that when the Conservatives take power, they inherit this dumpster fire. Then, when Pierre Poilievre or whoever tries to clean it up, the Liberals will wail and gnash their teeth, screaming, “Look how mean and anti-immigrant the Conservatives are!” It’s a trap, and it’s classic Trudeau—leave the house in flames and then blame the firefighters when they show up.  Meanwhile, Canadians are left footing the bill. Skyrocketing rents, overcrowded hospitals, and universities that look more like visa factories than places of learning. Trudeau doesn’t care. This isn’t about improving Canada—it’s about looking good on the world stage and keeping the global elite happy.  So here’s the takeaway: Canada’s immigration system is a joke, and the punchline is Justin Trudeau. Schools profit, students disappear, and regular Canadians suffer. The Liberals don’t care about accountability; they care about keeping their woke agenda intact while setting traps for the next government. The result? A country that’s being gamed by everyone except the people it’s supposed to serve. Pathetic. But hey, it’s Trudeau’s Canada, so what did you expect?"

Kirk Lubimov on X - "Canada has an unemployment rate of 6.8% and climbing yet we still have thousands of jobs for LMIA and added daily. Here are a few of the listed in Calgary where unemployment rate is 7.9%. Administrative assistant posts that pay $35 an hour apparently can't find anyone local and Chinese Cultural Centre Cuisine apparently can't find an office manager for $30 an hour.  Really?"

Refugees reporting higher earnings in Canada than investor immigrants - "the rate of investor immigrants reporting any income whatsoever is far below the Canadian average.  The findings, reported last week by Ian Young of the South China Morning Post, may indicate the expected social and economic benefits of the investor-class program have not shown dividends. “The data that suggests many investor migrants tend to treat Canada as some kind of holiday resort or educational/retirement bolt hole, while doing business back ‘home’ is quite clear,” wrote Young on his website... According to CIC, business immigrants have accounted for seven per cent of Canada’s total immigration since 1980 and in 2010 investor-class immigrants — who, as a condition for entrance, were required to prove net worth in the millions and invest $800,000 in Canada — accounted for 88 per cent of all business immigrants. According to CIC, investor immigrants reported average earnings of about $18,000 in their first year and just $28,000 after 15 years. After three years, only 47 per cent of such immigrants reported any income. The Canadian average is 67 per cent. After five years, only 39 per cent reported income, suggesting investor immigrants may leave the country (or declare non-residency) after the citizenship process is complete. Meanwhile, refugees (those who come to Canada under hardship) reported first-year average incomes of $20,000 and after 15 years those incomes rose to $30,000. Two-thirds of refugees reported income by their fifth year, on par with Canada’s average. More troublesome for Young is that similar rates of income after 15 years are found with the spouses and children of the initial, principal applicant... The newly released CIC data, from 2012, corroborates February 2014 statements made by J. Ian Burchett, Consul General of Canada in Hong Kong:  “Originally developed decades ago, immigrants coming through these out-dated programs are not required to demonstrate important skills, like official language ability (French or English), that are integral to Canada’s modern economic immigration programs. A recent survey concluded that immigrant investors have the lowest official language ability of any immigrant category, including refugees. That hinders their successful integration into Canadian society. Other data on immigrant investors indicate they bring limited benefits to the Canadian economy and are less likely than other immigrants to stay in Canada over the medium to long term,” stated Burchett."
Johnny Vindicated on X - "“After 15 years, Chinese immigrants still reporting less than $28,000 in income, which makes them eligible for a host of social benefits, paid for by average Canadians who can’t afford to live in Vancouver”"
From 2015

Mocha Bezirgan 🇨🇦 on X - "The Toronto Sun article begins with the phrase, "Yet another Canadian trucker..." and proceeds to cite four other individuals with the surname Singh who were busted for trafficking narcotics:  Amarjeet Singh: 550 pounds of cocaine Sukhraj Singh: 370 pounds of cocaine Gagandeep Singh: 661 pounds of cocaine Jasbir Singh: 132 pounds of cocaine Arshdeep Singh: 600 pounds of suspected heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamines  The concerning part is the fact that Sikh political leadership in Canada also has family members involved in narcotics trafficking, so, yeah, the situation within the community is dire."

pagliacci the hated 🌝 on X - "in case you wanted to know how Canada was doing: one of the most liberal cities in the country is planning on building mega tents to house a bunch of refugees and the plan’s strongest opponent is an old Chinese man who can barely speak English and is terrorizing politicians"

Over seven times more undocumented migrants exist in Canada than active military personnel - "The Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) has been chronically understaffed for almost the entirety of the Trudeau Government’s time in power. Even with the federal government allowing non-citizens and permanent residents to enlist in the military since 2022, the problem remains to this day. Drawing on similar concerns in the UK, Reform Party member Zia Yusuf recently said that “the number of military age males who entered the UK illegally exceeded the total available soldiers to the British army.”... the Canadian Border Service Agency (CBSA) has enforced fewer deportations than the amount of migrants that have been lost under its watch.   Additionally, the Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship department (IRCC) admitted last year that 5 million temporary visa holders will lose their legal status between September of last year and December of this year.   The consequences of mass immigration and illegal migration into Canada has also presented security challenges to the US, with 21,000 migrants caught crossing illegally into the US from the northern border with Canada in 2024 alone. Countless more migrants have crossed into the US from Canada who have not been caught, including those deemed national security threats by US intelligence agencies.   The border situation has inspired Trump to go after Canada with threats of tariffs and remarks of annexation through continued economic pressure."

Growing support for mass deportations among Canadians: poll - "A Leger poll conducted for the Association for Canadian Studies found that 48% of respondents believe mass deportations are necessary to curb illegal migration... 65% of Canadians feel the country is accepting too many legal immigrants, a notable increase from 50% just a year ago... The Trudeau Liberals recently announced plans to reduce immigration levels for the years 2025 to 2027, slightly, though their yearly targets still remain significantly higher than what they were under the Harper Conservatives."

Meme - "Canadians when their country is demographically replaced by 400 million Indians *sleeping*"
"Canadians when tariffs *marching redcoats*"

Canadians are leaving the country in record numbers and nearly 50% are from one provinc.e - "In 2024, emigration from Canada hit a level not seen in years, with thousands of residents deciding to start fresh somewhere else in search of cheaper cost of living or an improved quality of life. The trend has been building for a while, but last year's numbers set a new high, and one province played a massive role in the exodus.  According to a new report from rental platform liv.rent, which drew from recent Statistics Canada data, emigration from Canada last year reached its highest level since 2017, with 81,601 people packing their bags and heading for the exits in 2024... Ontario alone accounted for a whopping 48% of those departures.  According to the rental platform, this marks the highest level of emigration from Ontario since 2011, making it clear that more and more Ontarians are deciding that life outside of Canada might be the better option... Canada also saw a sharp drop in the net flow of non-permanent residents, meaning fewer temporary workers and international students stuck around. Ontario, again, led the way in this category with a staggering 66% decline."

Indian-Canadians have become the most hated group in Canada. Is there a way out of this? : r/AskCanada - "This is all anecdotal but:  I went apartment hunting with my black girlfriend and an Indian woman opened the door and just went "oh...no...no" and closed it immediately when she saw her.   I live on the Danforth in Toronto and my mom's in Port credit Mississauga and it's rare I walk into a business that isn't staffed entirely by Indians.  Discriminatory renting / hiring is a big part of it..and then you add on all the immigration fraud, buying licenses (trucking industry has taken a nosedive), scamming food banks and bragging about it and international students protesting demanding PR. To add to all this there's an entitlement + superiority newcomers are bringing, like we owe them and they're our Savior.  I'm not saying racism is the answer but it's not at all surprising that resentment is up."
"+1 as an Indian living in Canada. Not only this, Indian landlords will discriminate against Indians too and rent out their place to only Indians from certain regions. It’s terrible!!!"
"On top of all this, most Indian immigrants who came to Canada 20-50 years ago hate new Indian immigrants about as much as a redneck from Alberta does"
"Im an second gen Indian, and a lot of it is just thinking they have no civic sense and are making us look bad. Caste and religion divides aren’t as much a factor as optics are, and we’re paying the price for these newer immigrants with no skills and no decency."
"Let's not forget what appears to be political and sectarian street violence breaking out in parts of Southern Ontario as well as organized gangs of mostly South Asians starting various scam and theft rings. Then there's the temp students protesting about their temporary status. Foreigners engaging in protest generally rubs people the wrong way.   This isn't a justification for racism, but it's not a shock that it exists either."
Time to blame white people

They Would Call Me a “Denier” – Let Me Explain what I Believe about Residential Schools in Canada

They Would Call Me a “Denier” – Let Me Explain what I Believe about Residential Schools in Canada

"Over the last several years a new subspecies of Canadian has been named by some of our elites. They are called “deniers” and are said to be escalating a hateful, racially-motivated campaign to attack and denigrate Indigenous Canadians. The accusations have been numerous. One important recent example comes from Stephanie Scott, Executive Director for the National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation, who wrote, “Sadly…we see increased ugliness from those who deny our truths, experiences and oral histories as reality. Deniers will write their fringe blogs and substacks and leave their foul comments on social media challenging the documented experiences of Indigenous People, particularly residential school Survivors…They will say: ‘It didn’t happen,’ ‘It wasn’t that bad,’ ‘Some good came out of residential schools,’ or the most repugnant, ‘Children never died in those institutions.’”

The deniers are apparently so dangerous that mere vitriol, insult, accusation and denunciation such as Scott’s won’t be enough to contain them. They must be driven from the public square and silenced; if need be, they must be imprisoned. Last summer, prominent Indigenous lawyer Eleanore Sunchild suggested that “denialism” should be added to Canada’s Criminal Code, so that there are “consequences for people who are promoting hatred”. Not long thereafter Kimberly Murray, currently the federal government’s “Independent Special Interlocutor for Missing Children and Unmarked Graves and Burial Sites associated with Indian Residential Schools”, echoed that proposal. “Denialism is violence,” Murray intoned in one news conference. “Denial is hate.” The then-federal Minister of Justice, David Lametti, said he would explore the matter of criminalization, as has his successor, Arif Virani.

The anti-“denialist” campaign now appears self-sustaining. Barely a week ago as I was writing this essay, the federal NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh in a speech to Indigenous leaders accused a federal Conservative Party candidate, Aaron Gunn, of being a “residential school denier”. Also in the past week, the National Post’s Chris Selley reported that the RCMP now consider writing articles critical of the dominant residential schools’ narrative to be a potential threat to national security.

It is likely that Scott, Sunchild, Murray, Singh and perhaps our national police force would think that I too am a “denier”. By their standards, I suppose I am. But before you dismiss me as uninformed – or worse – let me explain what I actually believe. I am one of a number of informed Canadians who question some – but not all – of the claims about what happened to Indigenous children in Indian Residential Schools (IRS). If you must label us, call us “questioning critics”.

Questioning critics examine the claim that thousands of Indigenous children who lived in residential schools and hostels are missing and that this is because many if not most of them were murdered by their caregivers. These institutions were funded by the federal government from 1883 to 1996 and the majority were managed by five Christian churches: Roman Catholic (62 schools and hostels), Anglican (35), United Church (19), Mennonite (3) and Baptist (1); the 23 others were managed by federal, provincial and territorial governments (source of these figures is pp. 33-35 of this book).

The claim that thousands of schoolchildren were murdered or otherwise went missing is therefore a direct attack on the churches. But these churches, surprisingly, have not defended themselves and their thousands of former employees. Instead, they have either tried to hide from view or have fallen over themselves with repeated apologies, confessions and gestures of contrition. The Catholic Church’s “Sacred Covenant” with the Tk̓emlúps te Secwépemc First Nation (legally, the Kamloops Indian Band), described in this C2C article, is one such recent event.

Even so, the accusations against the residential schools are hard to believe for at least four reasons.

First, the federal Department of Indian Affairs (its exact name has varied over the decades) paid a per capita grant to the school administrators to care for the children and, as part of its oversight, the government required quarterly reports from school administrators showing the number of days each child had been at the school during the quarter. School inspectors regularly visited the schools to ensure that the students were being cared for and were attending. Even if Canadians today can’t believe that these officials cared about Indigenous children, the federal government wasn’t going to pay for students who didn’t exist or had disappeared. Yet we cannot find any documents indicating that any children were missing during the IRS system’s 113-year history.

Questioning critics wonder why the extremely serious accusation of missing and murdered children – including some reportedly buried in schoolyards – was not included in the enormous, seven-volume report of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, published in 2015.

Second, many responsible people, Indigenous as well as non-Indigenous, regularly visited the residential schools: chiefs, band councillors, parents, church officials and bureaucrats, along with dentists, medical doctors, nurses and optometrists. If students were going missing, surely someone among these many people would have discussed it with colleagues, raised the alarm among parents, notified the media or reported it to the proper authorities. Yet we cannot find any reports about missing children from any of these people.

This whole issue seems to have sprung up recently and for still-unknown reasons. It seems reasonable to propose that if children were murdered in residential schools, that information would have been reported long before May 27, 2021, when Kamloops Chief Rosanne Casimir announced that a recent investigation had provided “confirmation of the remains of 215 children who were students at the Kamloops Indian Residential School.”  The federal government sent almost $8 million to the band to investigate this claim but, so far, no excavations have even been initiated, let alone have any human remains been exhumed.

Of course, informed Canadians know that bad, abusive and unacceptable things took place in residential schools. Neither I nor any other questioning critic whom I know denies this or tries to suppress it. No one, in fact, denies that some Indigenous children died while registered in some schools. Nor do I have any reason to doubt the statement by former Assembly of First Nations Grand Chief Phil Fontaine that he had suffered sexual abuse while attending an IRS, something that, undoubtedly, shocked the nation when he first said it in a TV interview in 1990.

Volume 4 of the TRC Report states that a total of 3,201 IRS students died (see pp. 33-35 of the linked document), mostly in the early years and mostly from infectious diseases like influenza and tuberculosis. Unfortunately, the Commission did not provide comparison data on the number of Indigenous children who died but were not in IRS, or the number of non-Indigenous children who died of the same diseases during the same period. Thus, the TRC Report leaves readers with the impression that residential school students died at much higher rates than children who did not attend residential schools. To verify this claim, more detailed analyses are needed.

Questioning critics also suggest that some good things happened, at least in some schools. This would be one point of “agreement” with Scott, who as I explained above accuses “deniers” of (falsely, in her mind) asserting that some good came out of residential schools. I have had direct experiences that speak to this point.

I lived in an Anglican Church-run residential school, Old Sun (which like about 40 percent of the IRS bore an Indigenous name, in this case that of a famous Chief), on the Siksika First Nation (Blackfoot Reserve) in southern Alberta during the spring and summer of 1966. I was a university student intern working for the Band, and I had a room in the teachers’ wing at Old Sun. I saw what staff and students were doing and I heard the languages they were speaking. In fact, the Indigenous employees in the school and the Band Office were eager to teach me Siksika.

After the summer internship I got a job in the far north for the 1966-1967 school year, working as the Senior Boys’ Supervisor in Stringer Hall, the Anglican hostel in Inuvik, NWT. In that position, I managed the daily activities of 85 mostly Indigenous boys in three dorms, being on duty for 22 hours a day, six days a week. I kept notes about what I saw and what the children said and did.

During my time at Old Sun, I met a young Siksika woman, Elaine Ayoungman. We fell in love and were married in 1968, and we’re still married today, 56 years later. Elaine attended Old Sun for 10 years. Her parents and most of her nine siblings also attended the same school, and over the years I heard many accounts of their experiences.

As a researcher, I have published several articles on the relationship between Indigenous and non-Indigenous people. My first article on the integration of Dene, Inuit, Metis and non-Indigenous children in Stringer Hall was published in 1972, long before the current controversy about missing residential schoolchildren was in the news. Still, even with my experience and knowledge, and following a nearly 50-year-long academic and public policy research career, I am now to be considered a “denier”.

 

 

Third, many of the residential school employees were themselves Indigenous, and their own children as well as the children of relatives and friends lived in the schools. Is it reasonable to assume that these employees would watch (or hear about) children being mistreated, or worse, murdered, and not report the malfeasance to Indian agents, chiefs, band councillors or the RCMP? Again, we can find no documents of any such thing happening.

Finally, questioning critics wonder why the extremely serious accusation of missing and murdered children – including some reportedly buried in schoolyards – was not included in the enormous, seven-volume report of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC), published in 2015. It seems strange that among the report’s 94 Calls to Action (i.e., recommendations or demands), there isn’t one demanding a search for children who were claimed to be missing, murdered or buried in schoolyards. (Volume 6 has six calls, numbers 71-76, to search for unmarked graves in mission cemeteries lying close to residential schools, but any child who had been buried in a formal ceremony was obviously not missing or murdered.) Questioning critics also wonder why the mainstream media didn’t report on this obvious anomaly.

The TRC Report itself includes evidence of the positive experiences of some students, though no one would label Commissioners Murray Sinclair, Marie Wilson or Wilton Littlechild “deniers”. On page 140 of Volume 1, Part 2, the Commissioners wrote: “It is important to recognize that many students, both in memoirs and in statements to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada, have spoken positively about the impact that specific teachers had on their lives.”

Eddie Dillon, for example, was a student in Stringer Hall, Inuvik, when I was the Senior Boys’ Supervisor, and he told the TRC that he was thankful for the education he received in Sir Alexander Mackenzie School. He specifically thanked his parents and the “government of Canada” for giving him valuable opportunities that enriched his life. Similarly, David Simailak spoke of his experience at residential school in Churchill, Manitoba, which “gave him…new opportunities.” On pp 98-99 of Volume 2, he fondly remembers excelling in math and spelling competitions and travelling to Montreal for Expo ’67.

These are just two of the positive, even heartwarming statements recounted in the TRC Report. It is sad that more Canadians have not read these stories; I hope some of you do so while you still can. Scott, Sunchild, Murray and others not only want me prevented from writing and speaking on this subject, some of them would want me sent to prison – merely for repeating what I personally witnessed, physically experienced, noted in writing at the time, and which, in a number of instances, closely corresponds to what was formally recorded in the TRC Report.

Among the strangest aspects of the campaign to prevent questioning of the official IRS narrative is the recurring claim that critics “deny residential schools”, as if some people are pretending the IRS system never even existed...

This is utterly bizarre. Possibly it reflects seriously slipshod thinking and writing; perhaps it’s an attempt to make the critics appear plain crazy. But I know of no-one who denies that residential schools existed and operated for over a century. As for me, remember that I lived and worked in two of them and I married a woman who attended one for 10 years at a time when fewer than 30 per cent of Indigenous children were enrolled in residential schools and the average time they spent was less than five years (see pp 29-33 of this book).

I do, accordingly, question that 150,000 Indigenous children were torn from the arms of their crying mothers and forced to go to school against their parents’ wishes, as the current narrative constantly claims. Even in the early days, most parents signed admission forms to enroll their children in school. When I worked at Siksika First Nation, I travelled around the reserve registering children for school, and I cannot remember any parent who was reluctant to complete the registration forms or any child who did not look forward to going to school.

When I asked my mother-in-law, Nora, what she learned in Old Sun, she replied, “I’m talking to you, aren’t I?” She meant that she was speaking English, which she learned from her residential schoolteachers. Nora also implied that, thanks to learning English, she was able to communicate with other Indigenous people who did not speak Siksika, her mother tongue.

Of course, my mother-in-law thought that going to school and learning to speak, read and write in English was an advantage. But I would not call her or my wife “deniers”. All members of the Ayoungman family spoke Siksika fluently and took part in many cultural activities. Their time in residential school did not wipe out or even weaken their Indigenous culture or identity – but it did prepare them to deal with and navigate in modern-day Canada. (There is a fuller account of my time working at residential schools in this C2C article.)

The above exchange occurred as we were driving back to Winnipeg from the 1993 National Native Convocation in which the Anglican Archbishop and Primate, Michael Peers, apologized to Indigenous people, many of whom had attended the 35 schools and hostels managed by the Anglican church. There were frank and open discussions during the conference, but no one suggested that hundreds, let alone thousands, of children were missing and probably buried in residential schoolyards.

As well, informed Canadians and the questioning critics know that in southern Canada, many residential school students went home on weekends and during school holidays. If children were abused by other children or by residential school employees, some of them surely would have told their parents, who would have reported the abuse to Indian agents, chiefs or members of the band councils. But we have found no reports from these people.

Although the next thing will surprise and perhaps even shock readers who have only been exposed to the official narrative about residential schools, I swear this to be the truth: almost all the stories I heard about residential schools and hostels were about positive and humorous things that happened. These included the sports days, Halloween and Christmas parties, the tricks the children played on their supervisors (myself included), or the fact that the schoolkids tried to teach staff like me their native language.

My example illustrates that at least in some schools, the administrators supported the children under their care and held their staff to account. The TRC Report does not, unfortunately, tell us how many school administrators and supervisors acted honourably towards the children.

I did, however, hear from my parents-in-law about one case of abuse. Their oldest daughter, Rosella, who was about 9 or 10 at the time, had been forced by her residential supervisor to eat her breakfast cereal after she had thrown-up in the bowl. Rosella told her father, Arthur, about this incident when she was home for the weekend. When the family returned to Old Sun for Sunday church service, her father and grandfather, Anthony, met with the Anglican priest/principal, who listened to their complaint. Within a few days, the supervisor was fired.

Obviously, this quick action did not happen in all cases. And again: neither I nor any of the other questioning critics with whom I’m familiar denies that serious abuses occurred in residential schools, that these abuses were wrong, and that the abusers should have been more effectively investigated and punished. Nevertheless, my example illustrates that at least in some schools, the administrators supported the children under their care and held their staff to account. The TRC Report does not, unfortunately, tell us how many school administrators and supervisors acted honourably towards the children. Instead, it leaves the impression that all residential school employees, both non-Indigenous and Indigenous, treated the children as if they were sub-human (see Volume 5, pp 139-140).

For all these reasons, I am skeptical of some – but not all – of the things being claimed about the church-run Indian Residential Schools. Increasingly, I’m hearing that other Canadians are skeptical too. 

The questioning critics strongly believe that something needs to be done because this issue is festering and polarizing Canadian society, not only between the purveyors of the official narrative and ourselves (those they call “deniers”), but also between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Canadians more broadly and, as I have heard, even within some Indigenous communities. A detailed poll of over 3,000 people by the Angus Reid Group late last year revealed deep (though uneven) divisions among Canadians on core elements of this issue...

Let’s pretend for a moment that the Justin Trudeau government had actually made “denialism” a crime and consider the implications of enforcing it. Had that law been in place in 2021, it would become a crime to quote or reprint certain portions of the TRC Report. Technically, some of the statements by the commissioners themselves would be criminal. Then, as soon as Chief Casimir made her announcement referring to “confirmed” “remains” of “children”, it would have become a crime to (correctly) suggest that the ground-penetrating radar survey had merely shown subsurface “anomalies” that could just be disturbances from old excavations. 

Let’s also say that a few reckless deniers said so anyway and were packed off to prison. What would happen when, three years later, Casimir suddenly started talking – as she has done – about “anomalies” while quietly dropping the other claims? Would she then join the other deniers in prison for “denying” the “facts” of the “mass graves”? Of course she would be spared. But what would happen to the imprisoned deniers? Now that the formerly criminal word “anomalies” suddenly reflected the official narrative, would they be quietly released in the middle of the night? And if they were, would they then get to sue the federal government for their mistreatment, and each collect a few million dollars in out-of-court settlements for the harassment and false imprisonment they endured?

This seemingly fanciful scenario-spinning reflects the absurdity of criminalizing residential school “denialism”. Because really, there is no such thing; all we have are differences of opinion over the meaning of the available evidence and disputes concerning the body of facts at hand. Thankfully, there is a way out of this seemingly intractable impasse. We need to get at the truth in a way that will satisfy everyone. As the TRC commissioners themselves said, reconciliation depends on uncovering the truth.

First, the federal government should appoint a blue-ribbon RCMP task force to investigate the accusations that children are missing and possibly murdered at residential schools. The task force must have the expertise, resources and legal authority, backed by the necessary political will, to conduct a thorough investigation to its conclusion. Unfortunately, Indigenous organizations have so far resisted such a thorough criminal investigation – like the abortive criminal probe launched soon after the Kamloops allegations, which was suspended within days. But it needs to be done.

Second, if this task force finds evidence of malfeasance, a forensic investigation should be conducted in the schoolyards where people think residential schoolchildren were buried. (It’s important to be aware that to date, the only human remains found have been in neglected cemeteries, not any of missing children in schoolyards or the basements of churches.) It is worth mentioning again that the investigation must be conducted by competent independent professionals and not by either the churches or the Indigenous bands.

Third, if this investigation finds evidence that children were murdered, the school employees who are still living, both non-Indigenous and Indigenous, should be questioned and if there is evidence that they were involved in abusing or murdering children, they should be criminally charged and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Also, the names of deceased employees who abused or murdered children should be published.

Finally, a report of the investigation should be tabled in Parliament and distributed to Canadians, just as the TRC Report was distributed.

Thousands of Canadians, both Indigenous and non-Indigenous, worked in residential schools. For their sake, for the sake of the churches who managed most of the schools, for the sake of Indigenous people and, indeed, for all Canadians, it is time to conduct a proper investigation, including forensic analyses, of the claim that children were murdered in residential schools. This is the only way to address the accusation that some Canadians are “denialists” and to ease the polarization of Canadian society on this very important human and public policy issue."


Once again, speech the left hates is violence. Of course, violence the speech loves is speech.

Time to denounce the Truth and Reconciliation Commission for denialism!

There will never be either Truth or Reconciliation as long as white people can be guilted and milked for free money.

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