A year on, I mused about how everyone felt about this post in retrospect, but of course no one responded, not least all those who claimed CHAZ/CHOP was being misrepresented
A thread from June 15, 2020:
A: Hi, just using this as an example of what is both racist and misinformed. I did not approve the post for this reason but see it as something to display that represents irresponsible propaganda. Take it from an admin who walked around today what is now called the Chop, Capitol Hill Occupied Protest. Furthermore Fox News has intentionally used digitally altered photos to show broken windows and looting and photos of intense fires from Minneapolis. This is actual propaganda. I am someone’s who lived 5 minutes walk from these blocks until recently and stay updated daily with multiple first hand accounts including organizers. Some things are simply not truthful and not a matter of a differing opinion.
B: What can you tell about the CHOP from your firsthand witness of it?
A: cleaner than I’ve ever seen it, peaceful and solemn in some areas as a memorial and others passionate and charged with speakers lined up from political and arts organizations fighting for human rights. Plenty of mutual aid and sharing of food for folks and community gardens planted in adjacent Cal Anderson park which is usually just home to the homeless with few resources on hand. I have been walking these streets for 7 years and spent 4 living 5 mins walk from there. I’ve visited the area twice. so many children!
C: Always be open to alternative opinion not just yours. Also since when did I bring up race? I brought up ideology . And you deliberately did not allow it because the video was from fox and it did not gel with your narrative.So applying censorship to an alternative view and preventing others to form their own judgement based on different viewpoints was what you learned from your time in the US? How is your view not considered propergander and mine is?
D: Just checking if you are aware the Fox News has falsely doctored photos of Seattle during this situation? Do you consider Fox News to be a reliable news source?
C: I encouraged you to watch that video and determine for yourself. I personally know people who live there and they are livid! I have also lived in Seattle for 4 years. Also can you honestly say CNN is reliable? So no media is reliable.
D: I personally have friends who have gone to CHAZ and livestreamed their visits. I've also read many firsthand accounts of people who live and work in the area. This is a good one to refer to - (broken link)
You are right in saying no one person's opinion is the opinion of all. Just as no media is right for everyone. However I currently live in Seattle and have been watching the situation closely.
My personal observation through various livestreams from actual people I know is that CHAZ or CHOP is not homogeneous. There are many different people with different agendas there. However, the majority are there in peace and with hopes that the occupy protest will open positive dialogue between the city and the people.
Also, after reading many one sided and biased news from FOX, I no longer consider the a reliable news source. You have the right to continue believing it as reliable news, but unfortunately I do not. There are many more balanced, factual and reliable news sources out there.
A: no the general Seattle public is not livid
there are opinions and there are lies.
Me: I guess BBC should be banned too BBC criticised for cropping out weapon in Black Lives Matter protest photo
New York Times as well Patriots say viral New York Times White House photo was misleading
A: I disagree with all misinformation and the Fox level of propaganda is truly mind boggling
C: did I say general ? So the other few doesn’t count?
A: they do, but when the news ignores all the footage that’s been captured of police brutality and demonizes protesters pushing to end such paramilitary tactics, shows fake pictures, and writes to Chop as being a separate nation, that is propaganda. Do your research properly sister, and I do say sister as I’m a descendant of the [surname] clan and part of our human family.
C: did not declared it autonomous?
A: it was actually labeled as such by some organizers without consulting leadership and making a decision. The name stuck but was used to refer to the area being autonomous from a violent police force, not another country.
C: why do you put a blanket statement that the police force Is violent?
A: go use your eyes
maybe can also consult the residents of Capitol Hill who were tear gassed so hard over a 9 day police uprising that children in surrounding apartments choked
C: I did I also see people setting fires outside the police station and throwing Molotovs
A: in Seattle? Protestors and not intentional rioters who were nearly all White? Setting fire to police cars downtown and no one died? Not condoning it but staying factual. Show me where a precinct set fire in Seattle. You can’t
C: seem to forget these occupiers place the residents and businesses which did not agree to the situation in the middle of it.
A: go talk lor
C: go look at other videos that people submit online too.
A: I watch all types of footage π more than you ever know.
C: so you actually think setting fire to police cars which is actually public property and paid for by local tax payers are ok?
A: and once again this is quite literally my community and not yours so pay some respect and listen and plug into Twitter and IG for direct and live ground reports
I just said I do not condone and keep in mind those who’ve started these have had no affiliations to organizers. I am repeating myself. Goodbye ππΌ
C: it’s the moral responsibility of the organizer to make sure their actions do not cause harm to others
and since it’s your community you have the right to dictate whose opinion is right or wrong and which information is propaganda and which is not. Ok I rest my case. No point discussing when someone is knee deep in it .
A: Auntie please don’t lie again makes me very sad hor ππΌ
C: and how you know I am an auntie? Also now you are canceling out the opinion of other people of different generation. So can it be you are also ageist?
A: I love my Aunties and I do not like when they spread propaganda
C: that is your opinion so when you put a post up make sure you acknowledge the others . Being an admin should be as impartial as possible.
A: *Stupid meme about opinions not being facts*
E: OP needs to go back to school. How was that racist at all?
A: waging a misinformation campaign is a lie and racist insofar that’s this is a campaign to defend Black lives
A: I personally spend 18 hours a day to this movement and have gotten 20+ first hand accounts, visited twice, a, friends with organizers on the ground, and watch national narratives which have intentionally misreported the situation. Lies are not tolerated
Me: I guess all first hand accounts you disagree with must be lies
A: give me those real first hand accounts from people you know and we can talk
because buddy this is literally my community and neighborhood
Me: why must they be from people I know?
In Singapore a lot of people don't know what happens in their community and neighbourhood, eg rental flats, homeless people. So if Al jazeera does a feature on the poor in Singapore it must be lies
There're people in Singapore who have lived there for 5 decades who don't know prostitution is legal and regulated
F: Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Sure, it is your community and area....but do u literally know everybody in town? Do u 100% know none of them are inconveniented or threatened? Lets just agree to disagree. No need to publicly disagree with anyone in this forum. She has her points, you have yours. No one is right or wrong. It is really just subjective at this point.
A: reread the above
F: i did.
A: there are opinions and there are misreported lies and to give them equal weight is to support lying.
F: the same could be said to everything else. There's always two sides to everything. Yours is one side and hers is another.
A: an opinion and a lie is not the same
F: so your opinion is an opinion and hers is a lie? Alright, i am done. Have a nice day.
A: correct. It is a lie π
Furthermore everyone, there is now a federal judge ordered restraining order against the SPD because of unequivocal excessive force.
G: Should everyone now reposting friends posts with different opinions and believes than ours? π€
A: no. It’s quite simple. You just educate yourself and don’t lie π
G: everyone could keep saying the same to each other.. She could simply say that to you too! The point is not everyone have the same opinions, believes and points, and that shd be respected! Don't go around trying to shame others just because you feel your opinions and believes are correct.
A: disagree with me on how to set up barricades. Disagree with me on protest tactics. Disagree with me on how funding should be re allocated into communities. Disagree with me on food. Disagree with me on how to study anti racism. Do not disagree that the police are intensely violent, the prison pipeline destroys Black communities and the fabric of the USA, and that media propaganda is valid. That is evil.
G: some police are violent but don't paint all police are the same, that's being unfair! And why don't pull out every prisoners records be it blacks whites and browns to justify your claims on the prison pipelines.
A: Maybe can talk to the 3 month old baby who convulsed and spewed mucus from so much bloody tear gas. Or the woman who lost her pulse 3 times because the flash bomb hit her chest, unarmed and just standing there. Go talk to them before you dare speak lies
G: hello.. As you can see I am a Malay Muslim Singaporean, 1st hand 2 out of my 5 kids been targeted in high sch by their own peers, cheered not only by white kids but also black kids! The worse was when my son was falsely accused of having a bomb in his backpack, he was escorted by the vice principal and 2 cops to the office.. Lucky for us that the school staffs knows our family and that was handled rather appropriately, tho search and questioning were done without us knowing nor present. Did we go around telling our kids that all people are bad and love to target us because we are Muslims!? Nope.. Did we even teach our kids to say all police are bad for targeting and profiling Muslims after 911 and worse during Obama Hillary era? Nope.. So please don't tell me to educate myself when I know first hand what it's like to be victims..
A: all administrations are complicit including them. So much violence and murder. That’s why we fight against all of it. Please be educated in the extent of systemic racism in the USA and as someone who practices anti racism to my best ability, I push for a Singapore that fully embraces Malay, Indian, and all minority marginalized communities π
H: the fact that your kid has been targeted says a lot about racism. They have been targeted for the colour of their skin and their religious belief. That is wrong and eventually, it isn't the people who are happy with status quo that are going to fight for your equality. It is the people who are now fighting for the equality of another downtrodden race that will eventually fight for you. Most of the people I know who are racists do not take kindly to muslims too, unfortunately. It is good to bear that in mind. Supporting any kind of racism would ultimately be detrimental to any minorities of a country.
G: the very same black kids and white kids (now abt 20/21 years of age) who cheered and passed around sch the false accusations are on the side of the protests and condoning the rioting.. Hhmm.. π€
and one of the instructors (she is black) in the same high sch who was very closed to our family, she even called me her twin, did nothing, said nothing, mentioned nothing to us the parents of any of these incidents that happened to 2 of my kids... So please do not tell me they will be fighting for our equality.
H: I'm not talking about the people that you knew. They might just be bad people. There are racists in white, yellow, black, any colours. If you want to base it on the 3 persons that you know, please do as you please. π
G: did I mention only 3 people? No I didn't..
H: doesn't matter. How ever many you know wouldn't be the entire population.
G: oh wow, smartest comment, same goes with bad police too, wouldn't be the entire police force.
H: nobody ever said entire police force. Where did you get that from? I have no idea why you are doing what you are doing.
Whoever said all policemen were bad? Is it from the news programmes you've been watching, G?
G: then tell me what's the rioting and chaos happening right now in many states across the country? So pls don't play this twist and turn game with me.
H: please watch your words because I do not want to waste my time. It's better for you to research on your own from a myriad of different medias instead of embroiling me in an argument I do not wish to start.
G: i did not start it until you keep telling me what I shd do, questioning me abt the news prog I have gotten info or watched from.. You are insulting my intelligence and that's ok?
H: obody can tell you what to do. Nobody is insulting your intelligence. But you are free to think what you want.
But you do not put words in my mouth about what I think about policemen.
Who in the world would think all policemen are bad? It's not a logical assumption.
G: im not putting words in your mouth, i was just stating the fact to the claims many liberala been hyping all day and night about police brutality that every police force has to pay the price of few bad ones, and isnt that is one of the issues now with people rioting and protesting, calling for defunding and dismantling the police force.
Me: I'm surprised you don't know about the people who keep chanting "ACAB" (All Cops Are Bastards", and call those who support policing "bootlickers"
I: I do not see racism in C’s censored post. Please understand what the word “racist” means. We are not in Communistic Antifa controlled USA yet. This censorship sets a dangerous precedence for an admin to be the judge and jury.
A: hello please go educate yourself in systemic racism and media propaganda and lying. Thank you!
I: What are the chances that you are the one holding the misguided view? 50%?
J: I agree with C. The video itself does not state anything biased or opinionated. It's just facts that there are obviously residents and business owners in the area that are affected by this. Her comments on the video refers to specific ideologies. Not race specific.
There are some claims the video or pictures may be doctored. That's a separate argument that should be against FOX news. Not the person who post it.
Racist is NOT the term to be used here. We need to stop throwing that term around carelessly. As Singaporeans we should know better what Racism actually is. This isn't.
F: exactly!! Racism is thrown around too freely these days without 1st fully understanding the definition of it.
A: *Meme*: "Black lives matter"
"All lives matter"
"So you agree black lives matter"
G: black lives matter does not represent any others except themselves. Its hard to even understand the importance of black lives matter movement when there's more murders among themselves than getting murdered by a white cop!? Why isn't it news when a white guy was killed by a black cop, or a black cop killed another black guy!? And yes all lives matter, be it black, white, yellow, browns, pink or purple.. Not just blacks.
A: you are so incorrect. Go read. I cannot every time tell you to educate yourself and you laugh only. Such pride in ignorance is it?
so are you going to read a book yet?
G: you keep telling others to educate ourselves as long as we do not share your narratives. Perhaps you are the one who needs it more.
F: why waste anymore time when obviously he is just wanting to preach his own agenda and listening to only himself? I just made my last comment and i am done, because his best shot was to tell someone to read a book.
G: agree but sometimes we need to stand our grounds too before they keep pulling shits calling others out or shaming us just because we don't agree with them.
about reading a book.. Depends on who wrote it though π€£
K: the scary thing is they’re trying to burn the books that don’t validate their talking points.
I: If systemic racism exists, then how did Obama get elected for 2 terms in office for the highest post in US? And if wealth redistribution is your agenda, why don’t you and your Antifa/BLM friends occupy Bill Gates’ compound, Bezos’ compound, or Obamas’ compound? These people have more than 1 home. How selfish of them to not share, right? Don’t harass, inconvenience or extort the regular, working class Joes in that 6 blocks. And why don’t you guys ask how Oprah, JayZ, BeyoncΓ©, Michael Jordan, Maxine Waters, etc., and all successful Blacks, how they got to their position of wealth and influence, if systemic racism exists?
G: Yup and with 8 yrs in office, com'on why didn't he do anything to help his own black communities out of poverty!? π€ Oh wait! He and his administration were so busy manufacturing chaos for the Muslims to create cause to attack 5 if not 6 Muslim countries in the middle east! π
L: Obama was raised by white grandparents who knew how to go about the rigged system....
M: please go do some reading on systemic racism. You obviously don't understand what it means.
I: So are you implying that Blacks are inept and incapable of parenting?
That whites are cheaters and scammers who rigged the system? What is the system?
And since when does Obama claim or identify with his white half? Instead, he is constantly using his Black half for the privileges and societal benefits bestowed upon Blacks.
And how do you explain other Black success stories?
And for Blacks or anyone thinking reparations for slavery is justifiable, then shouldn’t the fair and moral solution be to return the descendants of slaves to their motherland (since they feel that slavery cause their ancestors to be taken unwilling to US)?
M: you only.know a few success stories and that holds your theory? everyone knows who you support.... $$$. I will not go further with one who only puts $$$ and blinded by $$$. people like you are still very sore about Obama..lol
I: Those are your assumptions and feelings.
Unfortunately, for people living in reality and not depending on handouts, money is the necessary currency to churn the wheels of life. In the US, if you truly abhor money, you can definitely try to live off grid.
And as for being sore about Obama, why do you assume and say that? Just because I found holes in what you are saying? What had Obama done for the Black community during his 8 years?
I am still waiting on your explanation and understanding of systemic racism in US.
A: All of these ignorant angry Singaporeans who refuse to acknowledge reality and spread propaganda instead are the same people who wouldn’t speak up during past injustice.
"•Holocaust was legal
-People who hid Jews were criminals
•Slavery was legal
-People who freed slaves were criminals
•Segregation was legal
-People who stood up for equality and justice were criminals
Our government and laws aren’t a guide to human decency and morality."
I: Do you see that you and your Antifa friends are doing the exact things you were once against? You guys are cannabalizing on your own defective ideology.
You guys are trying to punish whites and everyone else for crimes that none of us have personally committed. And you don’t think that likens you to be a Nazi.
You guys destroy historic buildings, deface monuments, etc., like the Nazis, to erase and rewrite history.
Anyone who has an opposing view is vilified, censored and removed. Thus far, I have seen clips of Antifa removing a Hispanic and a white street preacher from CHAZ. So much for the message of tolerance and inclusivity.
By holding the residents and businesses in the 6 blocks hostage, and subjected to extortions, is that not quasi slavery?
And what is the deal with a garden plot for Blacks only? Is that not racist and segregation?
Have you seen your Antifa buddies’ demand list? Black doctors and nurses to care for Blacks? That is outright racist and segregation.
Maybe it is time for you to read some books. Hang around hatred and you will be filled with hate.
C: I don’t see us being angry are we? Are we the one calling racists every one who don’t agree with their ideology? The cognitive dissonance is astounding here.
F: If there's any other admins of this group beside this bigotry loony bin, take a look at how far off this has gotten. This is no longer a friendly debate. This is his OWN proganda that if u don't agree with him, you are EVIL and god forbids you don't read a book of his choosing.
G: It's a shame that this page is allowed to be used by admins or anyone else to shame others for posting what individual believes in his or her own page!
H: you are mistaken. This was a pending post that A declined. Not what she believes in her own page. She wanted to post this in the group.
G: since it's pending, why made it known to members in this page? What's the motive? To make fun of her views and believes? To call her a racist when he believes he is not just because he is supporting blm? To say she is biased when he is not? Test drive to see if he gets many support on his remarks and posting?
H: It is up to the admin what he wants to do with it.
Most times, admins post about why certain things aren't approvedto be on the page. He has gone the extra mile to actually tell people instead of just letting people wonder why their posts are not allowed.
Granted, her name should be covered in this case.
G: of cos, the power of being admins
F: Granted he should covered up her name? So it is totally accepted for admin to bash members just because he feels like it? How about he just send a private message to her and addressing it. Later he can make a general post about what he couldn't tolerate.
N: i took note of your comment.
You specifically said : admins.
You want to help put some clarifications on your emphasis.
if you couldn't spell belief? this is very likely it.
G: if that's all you can pointed out and picked among all the comments made, believes vs beliefs? well then... Gd for you
O: Very scary to see Singaporeans so misinformed. I believed our Education system thought us better and being apolitical was kind of our thing. FBI itself has said lack of evidence of Antifa organizing the riots but so many posts here so easily are spewing this disinformation. This is USA, it was built on wars and conflicts so please dont tell the people who have lived here for generations and have struggled, how to live... the struggle is real. Approval for BLM is over 60% with 31% disapproval. So for all those who find themselves in the bottom 31%, maybe its time to introspect...
A: luckily the other post on BLM and racism was well viewed and showed
Where most of our hearts and minds are. The racists and ignorant choose to be so vocal to create an echo chamber of propaganda
O: that is heartening for sure. More shocking to see Singaporeans refusing to believe in facts- simple google search will repudiate most of their claims.
A: they can buy books as well and not scoff at the idea of education π
G: Be it Antifa or not, nobody here is against peaceful protests.. But rioting, looting, occupying/blocking streets and hurting innocent people in the process need to stop. Just because 31% means being unpopular that does not mean they are wrong/ignorant or misinformed, and the 60% are right.. We know where all these chaos are leading to.. Anyway, good for those who believe in equal redistribution, we shall see if that will really happen IF the democratic party wins the election.. we shall see if it only applies to normal people; hard working people with high paying jobs, while the wealthy democrats will remain wealthy, if not wealthier and the standard of living change to the better for the ones living in poverty and just waiting for hands out. Time will tell.
O: no its not antifa or not. Antifa was used to scare monger people and its been refuted. Strawman argument about looting, yes there was and its wrong but majority of protests by far have been peaceful. And most lasted 2-3 days. So what is the issue here that you guys are upset about, the protestors or thier message? Wealth distribution topic im not sure where it applies? When even GOP leaders say something must be done about policing, why double down on fringe conspiracies?
G: eerr... Didn't i state it clearly what need to stop? And abt redistribution of wealth that's reference to previous discussions made that was strongly agreed by non other than.. And disagreed by some of us
M: Exactly. I would've expected more. People clearly do not understand the concept of systemic racism, anti-racism, anti-fascism, and abolition of the current police state. At best, it's being intellectually lazy. At worst, they're actually overtly racist and fascist. Either way, it's disappointing.
Me: Somehow the "education" is only supposed to go one way. I find facts and data are unwelcome when they don't support the narrative
90% of blacks want more policing or the same amount of policing
I find it amusing that the anti-racists are being very vague and keep claiming that reading a book or googling facts will convince those they disagree with
If it were really so easy, one wonders why they don't mention these pertinent facts themselves
Well, I've posted quite a lot of facts. I don't expect them to convince anyone, but at least there's something concrete now and I don't keep waving around nebulous claims that are somehow supposed to be convincing
A, presumably polls you disagree with are bad and polls you agree with are good
How are you supposed to know what other people believe?
A: that article doesn’t articulate my point thoroughly so i deleted it, because accountability is important. Go read. It’s not my job to educate you. I’m leaving to redirect my energy ππ
Me: it's not my job to educate you but I tried anyway, knowing it wouldn't work. And in return you just asserted you were right and told me to read and educate myself. Apparently people are only supposed to read the right things and can only believe one thing.
K: It seems that lately once people disagree on a point of view they get called a racist or accused of spreading propaganda. Or get told to ‘Process’ or ‘read a book’.
I don’t think anyone finds anything wrong with OP’s passion and love for the cause against racial injustice. Many of us feel the same way. What we find distressing is the ignorance and arrogance to call some of us (who could be old enough to be his parents) such derogatory terms and post comments directed at us in condescending tones when challenged to a civil discussion. I never expect anyone’s respect without earning it but at the same time I always give them the benefit of the doubt until they prove me wrong. An admin should be held to a higher standard.
I have great hopes for this and every generation after ours. I just fear that their youthful passion gets hijacked or when they do things that cause irreparable damage to themselves and to others. The social landscape has changed and all of us are in uncharted waters on how to deal with it. We hope that the thought leaders in their generation have the altruism and wisdom to guide them correctly.
C: So much for being the love fest with no cop zone in the soyviet Chaz! So much for the Kumbayah environment in the no cop zone. Were you there A? Can you explain away this scene?
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A: things happen and people are held accountable. I cannot speak to this but I can say that the violence was dramatically higher and militarized when the police were attacking the public and tear gassing a 30,000 strong neighborhood. The movement itself is much bigger than this zone as protests continue across the city and country. The goal of divesting the police is resolute
C: omg you really scored an A+ for refusing to hold BLM for this atrocity imposed on the local residents and businesses. Your blatant disclaimer and inability to hold a social movement you championed is what turned people off your preaching.
A: hi I disagree with all violence including this act which was approached and countered by folks on the ground. BLM doesn’t condone this. And once again you ignore all systemic violence when approached when I even acknowledge what I see. You can go read a book now
C: lol seems like your usual response is go read a book when you got no salvo. Anyway blatantly calling people racists should warrant as defamation without proof. And it’s proof not by BLM ideological definition. Be careful, karma can be a bitch.
A: it is quite a bitch and your lack of knowledge to systemic racism in police, the prison pipeline, the 13th amendment, militarization, voter suppression, redlining, implicit bias, corporate racism, and all their intersection with misogyny and queerphobia is a disservice.
C: no need your communist indoctrination lah. Your Aunty eat salt more than you eat rice.
A: you can read a book.
C: no need your little red book . Go read your communist Marxist theory and you will see what you are doing and how you are behaving is just like the Chinese cultural revolutionaries. Just be careful because Singapore govt has a lot of moles in the groups . Just saying it with compassion because I hate to see you being blacklisted back home .
A: go read a book and reflect on your absolute denial to learn. It is inhuman and frankly frightening that you refuse to acknowledge slavery and oppression. You are actively racist and Spew propaganda. I will sleep and you will continue to be a racist in denial and I hope you learn one day. Kisses
C: excuse me, do I sound angry? I am very reasonable. It’s called a debate. And again while I am speaking about ideology and taxpayers access to cops and essential services, the person you are defending is bringing up issues of race and identity politics again.
A: human rights are not a debate and neither is your refusal to educate yourself. That is hatefully willful ignorance. Goodnight lovey xoxo
C: lol so brainwashed you can’t even see what you are commenting on.
H: yes, as a matter of fact, you do. If anyone is reading this exchange, they can surely tell.
Everyone now knows what is your point, you have brought it across. No use flogging a dead horse. You aren't going to change his mind and he's not going to change yours. No need to needle and claw each other's eyes out. I'm sure both of you have important things to do.
And no, you will not harass an administrator because he declined your post.
C: it is quite obvious you are biased but first let’s clarify I did not harass him . He defamed me with no substantial evidence other then basing it on his BLM ideology beliefs system he has. I have every right to proof him otherwise. But hey you are the admin so be it . However public opinion would be otherwise since you are encouraging one of your admin to bully and defame me and others with no good cause and proof . Please keep this group apolitical because really it is starting to look and sound like an indoctrination group.
Me: It is quite ironic that we are told that "human rights are not a debate and neither is your refusal to educate yourself."
Human rights are contested because there are different constitutencies and tradeoffs. For example, there is a right to life but the conflict between this and bodily autonomy results in controversy over abortion rights. Trans rights are also in conflict with women's rights. And in the administration of justice victim's rights and the rights of the accused are in conflict all the time. To pretend that there is and can be no debate is dishonest.
As for the refusal to get educated... Apparently the "anti-racist" position is infallible, which is why only other people need to learn anything. Anti-racists are in possession of the gospel truth and can only educate others, not be educated
A: "If you're not careful, the [media] will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. - Black Lives Matter"
I: "The wolf has somehow convinced the sheep that the sheepdog is the dangerous one and that he must be removed. I pray for the sheep when the sheepdog is gone and the wolf has all the sheep to himself."
A: please read a book for everyone’s sake and understanding this saying
I: That is your constant, lazy escapist answer - “Go and read a book”!?!
What you and your lawless buddies are doing is holding residents and businesses of the 6 blocks of CHAZ/CHOP as hostages. And you still don’t see a problem. And any opposing views to the delusional fantasy of summer love fest CHAZ/CHOP situation is met with you are a racist and go read a book.
There is at least a 50% chance that you are the one that needs to read a book or books.
A: please educate yourself
I: calling the kettle black? Or is that a racist saying now?
A: read about racism darling π
I: Oh sweetie! All lives matter. Black, white, yellow, brown, blue.... BLM is itself a racist movement. Have you considered that you need to read more books and be more open minded? Watch – ‘Black Lives Matter Is a Joke’: Black D.C. Resident Tells Far-Left Group ‘Go to Chicago’
Me: Isn't it sexist and condescending for a man to call a woman "darling"?
Isn't a man telling a woman to read a book mansplaining?
A: i tell everyone to read a book darling. You’re all my human family
Me: Since we're being told to read a book:
*Extracts from Gratitude to Fat Cats in Is Reality Optional?: And Other Essays / Thomas Sowell, The Joys and Perils of Victimhood in Theater of Cruelty: Art, Film, and the Shadows of War / Ian Buruma, Dictatorship of virtue : how the battle over multiculturalism is reshaping our schools, our country, and our lives / Richard Bernstein
A: people are dying.
Me: Precisely.
We need more policing to save black lives
K: at least someone here actually read a book vs just asking others to do so to avoid presenting any meaningful arguments. π
