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Friday, August 09, 2024

Links - 9th August 2024 (1 - MCU)

Everyone loved Spider-Man but she is the only one who loved Peter Parker.๐Ÿ’• - YouTube
Ursula Ditkovich

Meme - Guy Fdm @Fdmdarkshadow: "Great CGI, amazing sound design, no quips, no unnecessary humor"
Kangmin Lee | ์ด๊ฐ•๋ฏผ @kangminjlee: "Back when studios still had the balls to show an American hero killing terrorists
"Culturally insensitive, Islamaphobic bigotry, marginalized BIPOC, white savior complex" etc etc etc from journalists if Iron Man came out today  American cinema used to be on top of world just a decade and a half ago. Now it’s just corporatized bland DEI slop"

Meme - "After every Spider-Man film. The actor who plays Spider-Man stars in a war movie, and his love interest, in a tennis movie.
Spider-Man. Wimbledon. Brothers
THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. BATTLE of the Sexes. HACKSAW RIDGE
Spider-man No Way Home. Challengers. Cherry"

Avengers: Endgame Did The Impossible And We Failed To Realize It - YouTube - "The film took itself seriously...
The film took 30 minutes to address the consequences of Infinity War...
Authentic character development...
Giving us a proper Thor
Endgame ends exactly the way Infinity War began"

Meme - Daniel Oles: "This was telling... In the beginning Marvel used to have fully detailed and diagramed technical drawings for their vehicles, costumes, and props. Even if you never saw in the film it SOMEONE cared enough to make every little piece of the Marvel Universe have a purpose and function.  Nowadays the grand total of design work is a stark reproduction on a blank background of shape, texture map, and lighting.  That's it.  So if Marvel wants to know what went wrong, look at the way you make movies. Once upon a time you crafted a world.  Now you let the computer do it for you. If they want the MCU to come back you need to work on the 'U' part: The Universe. Not just world building for the sake of exposition, but world building for the sake of internal cohesion. This little bit on a vehicle isn't a random doo-dad, it MEANS something to the people who built it in universe.  If all you've got is meaningless shapes rendered without much thought as to function, that's what it looks like and that's how it feels: disposable and without grounding in a wider context."
"SHIELD. MODEL HELICARRIER. LUXOR-CLASS, MODEL "AJAX" *tons of details and annotations*
MARVEL THEN
*undetailed models of craft, with no annotations*
MARVEL NOW"

Meme - *Wolverine and Deadpool jump through portal*
"Really Feige? This was the fate of the MCU before we arrived?" *She-Hulk Twerking*

Meme - "THE GALACTUS FOR THE NEW FANTASTIC 4 MOVIE *Fat Black Woman*"

Meme - Hulk: "HULK SMASH!!!"
Black Widow: "Yeah! You're going to smash up all the bad guys, right?"
Hulk: *grins*
Black Widow: "Right??"

Meme - "Can't wait for this episode
Marvel Studios What If..." *Ant Man shrinking to go into Thanos's anus/Thanus Theory*"

Captain America 4 Test Screening Rumor: Politics, Bad Acting - "Those problems are again said to include lackluster action scenes, with it further claimed a Captain America 4 test screening revealed fans really didn’t like the politics, as well as the acting in the movie.   Marvel changed the official title from “Captain America: New World Order” to “Captain America: Brave New World.”... 'Apparently audiences were unimpressed by the film’s action scenes and the chemistry between Cap and his love interest. However, the biggest issue was how audiences responded to the film’s political content. You might think this’d mean audiences found it divisive, but it was actually worse than that: they found it boring. I’m told that the overall feel was that the political material was “uninspired and unengaging” that audiences found it lacked nuance, was overly expository, and really slowed the movie down.'"

Hazel Kelly - "Black Panther is not an African movie. It’s an American movie with African aesthetic.  Because I assure you, people do bow to kings and kneel to them in Africa.  So T’Challa saying “We don’t do that here.” Was very much a liberal statement which reflected American idealism when it comes to monarchies. They don’t think anyone must be bowed to for anything.  But I am done having such conversations about entertainment I’m going to assume people have enough reasoning to see things for themselves or ignore them.  PS: There is not ONE single universal idealism in America. There are various schools of thought. I’m just saying American to generalise but I don’t mean to."

"We'll never know what happened to Sersi, Phastos and Kingo": MCU Has Reportedly Canceled Eternals 2 to Focus on Guaranteed Box Office Hits
Eternals 2 Won't Happen Anytime Soon, Says Marvel Studios' Kevin Feige
Weird. I thought diversity was the way to make money
One cope I've seen is that this doesn't mean it's cancelled

“It’s bad movie fatigue, not superhero”: Disney’s CEO Bob Iger Makes a Big Change in MCU to Deal With “Superhero Fatigue” and Fans Already Love It
This probably won't stop journalists from blaming "superhero fatigue" to defend the failures of their woke products

Meme - "Got any fatherly advice for me?"
"Marvel fans should be thrilled that the X-Men are coming to the MCU. Rogue is going to put Captain Marvel into a coma, meaning we get to see Brie Larson effectively removed from the franchise"

Meme - "Girls in Egypt *Nose to Sphinx*
Boys in Egypt *Moon Knight, Apocalypse*"

“It is an artistic failure”: Despite Earning Billions in Box Office, Marvel Fails To Top DC on 1 Crucial Aspect - "DC movies, although have not had a perfect run so far, have one thing they take pride in. Whether it’s Todd Phillips’ Joker, Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight trilogy, Matt Reeves‘ The Batman, or Zack Snyder’s Justice League/ Snyderverse – all the movies have top-notch cinematography... When compared, while Spider-Man: No Way Home made a lot of money for Marvel Studios, their CGI and cinematography didn’t hold a candle to Reeves’ The Batman. Even in terms of budget, most of The Batman pre-production happened during the COVID pandemic, and the filming was delayed a lot, which added to its increase in budget. NWH, on the other hand, had a massive budget at the very beginning and still did not manage to make good on its end with how the movie was shot."

Meme - "Marvel's biggest secret Is how they make Robert Downey Jr. appear taller than he actually is..."
"RDJ is 5' 8 1/2"
Gwyneth (5' 9") and we know she is wearing killer heels ALL the time
Chris (6' 0 1/2")
Problem solved.
[spelledjustlikeescape] I think I just bloody died scrolling down and seeing rdj wearing heels."

Meme - Dr Strange: "Wanda, your children don't exist"
Wanda: "Just like your love life"

'Black Widow' Writer Jac Schaeffer Isn't Scared to Make the Fanboys Mad - "Schaeffer has a bold vision for superhero movies of the coming decade: more sympathetic villains, less glamorization of weaponry, and stronger representation of marginalized voices. To comic book movie fans who prefer ultra-violent shoot-outs, 100 percent-evil villains, and casts that look like they did a decade or two ago, Schaeffer says, “I’m not interested in adhering to comic canon that is discriminatory in any way or that violates my values system.” Even if her stance makes Black Widow a target for sabotage on sites like Rotten Tomatoes ร  la the response to Captain Marvel, don’t expect Schaeffer to budge from her passion for positive change by even an inch. “When people react with hate, it saddens me. I think it’s a shame,” she says, “But that’s not where I want to put my energy. I’m not interested in the loud, sour-grapes voices.”... “I wasn’t a huge superhero movie fan before starting to work [at Marvel], but now that I’m doing it, there’s just so much opportunity to make big, positive statements,” Schaeffer says. “Especially something like Captain Marvel and Black Widow, to have these female-centered stories — I just can’t not be involved in that.”... Of the eight writers staffed on WandaVision, four of them are women. When accounting for the executives, assistants, and Schaeffer herself, the show’s writers’ room is majority female.  Hiring a writers’ room of that makeup was “incredibly intentional, and it was very much supported by Marvel,” she says. “I felt incredibly strongly that we needed women and people of color and people of all backgrounds and perspectives in the room. I believe — I think it is fact — that stories are better the more perspectives you have.”... “I would like to see alternatives to violence in superhero movies.” She added, “Maybe I would qualify that by saying, alternatives to glamorizing guns and weaponry. That’s one of the reasons that I love Captain Marvel — it’s all about inner power. And the destruction is not at the expense of human life.”... “I choose to be a part of projects that are about positive representation. We need to see women, we need to see people of color, we need to see nuanced experiences, and we need to see different perspectives on screen,” she says. “I choose to work with people who are interested in changing perspectives for the better, and putting a world on screen that is something we can aspire to and have conversations about, and moving in a direction that will create a world I hope will be better for my children.”"
A surprising number of people are in the creative industry not because they like the work, but to push a political agenda (see also: The Witcher, "localisers" of Japanese games)
Making fanboys mad, which is an aim nowadays across multiple franchises, is a good way to lose money

Black Widow Screenwriter Doesn't Want to Please Fans of the Comics - "This is another problem with modern writing – everybody’s making such a big dopey deal over “complexity”, at the expense of entertainment value. To the point where villains can’t be written in simple terms anymore, and the heroes are often more neglected because the villains are somehow more interesting in every way. It’s even led to the horrific notion of turning goodies into baddies, and that’s where things get really offensive. Today’s PC/SJW crowd cannot appreciate the basic meaning of heroism, not even anti-heroes with flaws"

Eternals: Kumail Nanjiani Admits He Experienced Trauma from Movie's Negative Reviews
Nowadays "trauma" is everything someone doesn't like

The MCU Breaks A 16-Year Franchise Record With Its First-Ever Razzie Nomination - "After 16 years, Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania has become the first Marvel Cinematic Universe project to receive a Razzie Awards nomination. The Golden Raspberry Awards — commonly known as the Razzies — honor the worst movies of the year. While there have been some bad MCU movies, no Marvel Studios film had ever been nominated for a Razzie, but that has finally changed... Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania was nominated for Worst Supporting Actor, Worst Director, and Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-Off Or Sequel. In the Worst Supporting Actor category, Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania's cast received two nominations for Michael Douglas and Bill Murray's performances as Hank Pym and Krylar, respectively."

‘The Marvels’ Box Office Was Treated Unfairly
They're still trying. Napoleon and Wish did better despite coming out in the same period and not belonging to a hitherto profit generating franchise

Disney Exec Blames Fans: Refuses To Take Blame For Star Wars, The Marvels Failures - "As I have been stating for years, when an agenda takes precedence over the story, the story always suffers which in turn equates to a bad movie.  It’s not featuring female superheroes or diverse characters that makes the movies bad (otherwise EVERY female movie would be bad and EVERY male movie good), it’s throwing out the story to push those characters onto the fans for THE MESSAGE, which is exactly what both Star Wars and The Marvels have done.  They empower the female characters at the expense of the male characters which they intentionally make look like shit. That destroys the story... If these same clowns who have been developing the recent batch of shitty movies and TV shows used male characters, it would be just as shitty.  Case in point is that Marvel’s Phase 1-3 used people who were big fans of the comics, but then Kevin Feige told his Phase 4-5 crew not to read comics. How’d that turn out?   The Disney exec’s words – who, let’s be honest, should be f’n fired – come via Matt Beloni’s newsletter from Puck News (Beloni is the former editor at THR and a lawyer).  Previous to discovering this on Twitter, I also came across a tweet that destroys the woke nonsense and applies to this Disney exec.  “Audiences don’t hate diverse characters,” says the tweet from Clifton Duncan. “What they hate is being slammed as bigots for rejecting bad work from pretentious, unskilled activists posing as writers.”  Duncan added, “If the demography of your characters becomes more important than the story, your story will probably suck.”"
They're still playing this game

"Why do I need an all Black cast": Nelson Peltz's Controversial Comments on Chadwick Boseman's Black Panther Does Not Sit Well With Fans - "Nelson Peltz, an activist investor, questions Feige’s ability to run MCU following recent disappointments in terms of movies, series, and the Jonathan Majors controversy... Activist investor Nelson Peltz, in his recent interview with The Financial Times (via Variety), criticized Marvel president Kevin Feige and Disney for their ‘woke’ strategy...  It should be noted that putting full responsibility for the recent disappointments at the studios on Feige seems unfair because there is no way he could have predicted the response to The Marvels. The movie wasn’t even promoted properly due to the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes... They noted that the studios are focused on making movies that the audience wants to see, and the majority of the people demanded Nelson Peltz stay away from Marvel."
You're racist if you have an all-white or all-male cast. You're racist if you point out no-white or no-male casts
Clearly, the MCU is still very successful, which is why we know Peltz is just racist and needs to stay away from Marvel
Looks like there're still media outlets trying to pretend that the Marvels was just unlucky

Video Proves What Went Wrong With MCU - "Phases 1 through 3 were a big success because they had Jon Favreau, Joss Whedon, James Gunn, and the Russo Brothers onboards as creators.  However, following the release of Avengers: Endgame, that all changed. Not only did Marvel replace fan-favorite characters, but it’s also known the new creators behind these movies and Disney+ projects aren’t fans of the source material... Disney CEO Bob Iger has also confirmed they are pulling back on Marvel, which obviously you don’t do with something that is a big success... back in 2022, a Marvel producer foreshadowed what was to come.  “One thing I think is interesting, and specifically for writers, I would say, a lot of times, we’re pitched writers who love Marvel,” Marvel producer Nate Moore explained to the Matthew Billoni podcast. “And to me, that’s always a red flag. Because I go, ‘Oh, I don’t want you to already have a pre-existing idea of what it is, because you grew up with Issue 15 and that’s what you want to recreate.’” A former Marvel Comics editor also says more of the same."

Valerie D'Orazio on X - "Can confirm, at least on the comic book side: when I was assigned Punisher & Emma Frost/X-Men at Marvel I was advised that I didn't need to understand the comics or the current continuity; self-insert character. The sad thing was: these were f**king comics I read as a child anyhow!"
Video of MCU Phase 4/5 writers saying they didn't read the comics Mark Stamp's answer to Why wasn't the Super Soldier formula replicated? Stark/Banner/Pym were almost certainly smarter than Erskine. Plus, they had Cap's DNA. How could they not replicate it? - Quora - "Honestly? I think they’ve got it down pat. Banner did manage to make a flawed example, and the research performed by Howard Stark created both Emil Blonsky and the Winter Soldier Program.  So what the hell happened? Why haven’t they got it right? For the past fifty years everyone had been been picking the wrong candidates."

Meme - "The CGI in Wakanda Forever was terrible, especially for IronHeart"
"It only looks ugly because this is Riri's first suit. She will make upgrades to it in the future."
(note, am not making this up for the meme, this is an actual argument many Marvel fans have made to defend the CGI)

Meme - "Typical woman, getting sad over something she created in her head *Wanda Maximoff stroking Scarlet Witch's cheek*"

WGA Member Confirms Speculation About Why Superhero Films And TV Shows Have Gone To Hell - "the anonymous WGA member shared five points that confirm nearly all theories about why the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the Arrowverse, and other superhero films and TV shows have been utter trash over the last half decade or so.  First the member shared that “writers hired on comic book shows are told it’s a POSITIVE that they are unfamiliar with the original comic book and not a fan of the existing IP because they want to do a ‘modern new take on the material relevant to today.' This first point is not surprising given Jac Schaeffer, who wrote WandaVision and Black Widow, admitted to Deadline back in 2021, “I’m not a very good comic reader. I have a hard time digesting the storylines and I never know which cell to look at, and I don’t know, I’m a disappointment, perhaps, to the fandom in that way, but the imagery is always, of course, very startling and moving and inspiring, and it was Kevin Feige’s idea to marry Wanda and Vision to the sitcom world.”  She would also reveal to Mashable she had no idea who Mephisto was, “There was never any conscious intention on my part to create any Mephisto red herrings, because I didn’t know who Mephisto was until I started doing press.”... It’s not just writers. Actor John Cena also shared that he was told not to do any research for Peacemaker at the behest of James Gunn... “Writers are asked (a) Why this story today? How is it relevant politically today to the existing narrative they’re pushing on our culture? and (b) Why are you the person to tell it? ‘Because I have talent and wrote it’ is NOT a valid answer. What is a valid answer is, ‘Because I’m a member of this aggrieved group or class and only we can tell our own story.'”  The upcoming X-Men ’97 animated series appears to be an example of this...   “I think one of my favorite parts was like they were truly interested in like what my experience as a black gay man was and how it was going to inform the story we were telling. And that to them was like that is how we’re going to make this authentic”... “This leads to a “heads we win; tails you lose game” where if you don’t include diverse characters, you’re dinged for having an all-white/non-diverse cast — regardless of the time or place of the story or historical accuracy — and if you do have a diverse case (race / gender) then you are guilty of ‘cultural appropriation.’ This means that unless you are, for example, African-American, you are not allowed to tell a story about an African-American character. Or disabled or LGBTQI2+. Unless you ARE that specific subgroup, you can’t write it.”  Comic book writer Christopher Priest discussed this back in 2018 in an interview with ComicBook.com. He revealed, “So I got a call from DC, and they wanted to talk to me about Cyborg. I gave them the standard stump speech. I don’t want to be a ‘black writer.’ When did I become a black writer? I used to be a guy who would write Spider-Man, Deadpool, and Batman. Why am I no longer qualified to write those characters? How did I get typecast from writing Black Panther of all things, when that series was never really about Black Panther. It was about the white guy, about Ross. It was narrated through his voice, and I thought I wrote a very well-constructed white character. Why are you now pigeonholing me as a guy who can only write black characters?”... “There’s a bias toward the ‘two-fer’ or ‘three-fer’ hire — being gay, for example, ‘isn’t enough’ now. You have to be gay / African-American / Latinx / undocumented / unhoused / differently-abled. Then, on the DEI scorecard, they have a 2x or 3x positive score for the hire.”  Interestingly, the lead actor in the upcoming The Acolyte series is Amandla Steinberg who is black and claims to be a lesbian, non-binary, and an intersectional feminist... “To give you an idea of how competitive things are, for Only Murders in the Building there was word a staff position was available. This is the lowest-rung writing position. They received 450 scripts as writing samples for this ONE job. A manager told me these jobs would ‘typically go to a BIPOC writer,’ but the show decided not to hire anyone or to go in another direction.””

Meme - "AVENGERS SECRET WARS
DOCTOR DOOM *Blonde Robert Downey Jr*
WOLVERINE *Frazzled RDJ (Dr Dolittle)*
WINTER SOLDIER *RDJ with curls*
PROFESSOR X *Bald RDJ
BLACK PANTHER *Blackface RDJ from Tropic Thunder*
DOCTOR STRANGE *Blonde RDJ in 2007 at premiere of "The Brave One"*
THOR *Young blonde RDJ*
OLD STEVE ROGERS *RDJ in Oppenheimer*
ANT-MAN *Young RDJ*
SPIDER-MAN *Young RDJ*
SHANG-CHI *Grizzled RDJ*
CAPTAIN MARVEL *RDJ in drag in Sherlock Holmes 2*"

O’Shea Jackson Jr on X - "If you mad they got Robert Downey Jr to play Doctor Doom. Just know you lucky they didn’t ask him to just replace Jonathan Majors as Kang ๐Ÿ˜‚"

Meme - "Marvel casting RDJ as Dr. Doom in avengers 6
You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me"

Culture Crave ๐Ÿฟ on X - "Ryan Reynolds reacts to Jamie Lee Curtis apologizing for 'stupid' MCU diss after backlash "Wait, Is everyone expected to apologize for slamming Marvel post-Endgame?" ๐Ÿ˜‚"

Meme - "In Iron Man 2 (2010), Black Widow is seen changing clothes in the back of a car. The man driving the car is Happy Hogan, played by Jon Favreau. He is also the film's director, which I'm sure has nothing to do with this scene."

Meme - Elwansyah Risman: "Thats because it was not Made for them..."
"Every single Avenger came to Tony's funeral
but not a single Avenger came to Black Panther's funeral"

Rumor: Marvel Studios Cleaned House And Fired Activist Producers - "This latest rumor comes from Film Threat founder Chris Gore during an appearance on The Critical Drinker’s YouTube channel... ‘Unlike Lucasfilm. Lucasfilm is lost. They’re lost. They are doubling down on all the nonsense. You will never get anything good out of Lucasfilm and Star Wars. That’s it.”... “Kevin Feige recognizes… basically, he said that we tried it, it didn’t work. He’s talking about Phase 4. It didn’t work. No Kang. None of these side characters that don’t have the legacy of classic characters. And if Deadpool and Wolverine proves anything, you’ve heard that phrase ‘male and pale is stale,’ that was spoken aloud across studios, but if you look at box office this year, I would say male and pale is money. And that’s the phrase that I think people should more adopt.”  Gore also noted, “Additionally, they fired people that don’t know the comics. … But it’s going to be a sea change that will take years. Years. That’s why they are announcing this now. ‘We know we screwed up and failed, but look at what’s coming.’ So we’re going to get two bad movies, two bad TV shows, and maybe a good Fantastic Four film.” Marvel Studios did make a huge change at the end of last year on its television show side. The Hollywood Reporter’s Borys Kit shared that the company was “revamping its development process. Showrunners will write pilots and show bibles. The days of Marvel shooting an entire series, from She-Hulk to Secret Invasion, then looking at what’s working and what’s not, are done.”  Marvel’s head of streaming, television, and animation Brad Winderbaum informed Kit, “We’re trying to marry the Marvel culture with the traditional television culture.”  He added, “We need executives that are dedicated to this medium, that are going to focus on streaming, focus on television because they are two different forms.”... Kit and Aaron Couch at The Hollywood Reporter noted that Marvel Studios was hit with some lay offs.  The duo reported that “around 15 people … including junior level employees in production and development” were laid off.   More recently, Kevin Feige has admitted that characters introduced in Phase 4 were unlikely to show up in the company’s upcoming Avengers films... He also told Inverse that it was unlikely Eternals would get a sequel, “There are no immediate plans for Eternals 2.”... As far as employees who do not know comics being excised from the company, it’s unclear how accurate this claim is given Jac Schaeffer is the showrunner of the upcoming Agatha All Along series and she’s notorious for being clueless about Marvel’s source material.  Schaeffer infamously told Inverse in 2019, “I’m not interested in adhering to comic canon that is discriminatory in any way or that violates my values system.” In the same interview she admitted she wanted to use the Marvel Cinematic Universe to “make, big positive statements.”...   Schaeffer also indicated she hired the writers room for WandaVision based on gender quotas... Schaeffer also noted she wanted to tone down the violence in superhero films...   The showrunner also indicated she wanted to feature more morally “gray” character as well... On top of Schaeffer, Nate Moore is still at the company as well. Moore is the Vice President of Development and Production at Marvel Studios. Feige credited Nate Moore pushing Eternals to the top of the company’s production list because of its focus on identity politics"

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