Why do feminists expect men to control how other men behave? : r/MensRights - "The whole concept of collective responsibility where men as a whole take responsibility of actions of other men, I’m seeing this rhetoric a lot, especially after the man Vs bear debate, where feminists say “men need to look within themselves and see why women are picking bear.” Like it’s my fault that women think all men are rapists. And when I saw a man comment “what did I do” there was a reply that read “they didn’t mean you specifically but men in general,” even if the message was directed at him as a man. I’m so sick and tired of the idea that I’m supposed to control the actions of other men. If a man is a rapist, why is that my fault. I’m so sick of this. I hate being associated with crimes I didn’t commit."
Good luck if you tell Muslims to be responsible for the actions of other Muslims. Or any "minority"
Meme - Faye Peterson House: "Sexual violence is any type of action, comment, or behaviour of sexual nature that is unwanted and non-consensual. The concern for ๐๐ฒ๐
๐๐ฎ๐น ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐น๐ฒ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ ๐ฝ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐๐ฒ๐ป๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ฝ๐ผ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ถ๐ ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐ฐ๐ผ๐บ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐บ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฝ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐๐ฎ๐น๐ฒ๐ป๐ ๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ฒ ๐๐ฒ๐ฒ ๐บ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ป๐ฑ ๐บ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ฒ๐
๐๐ฎ๐น ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐น๐ฒ๐ป๐ฐ๐ฒ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ป๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ฝ๐ผ๐ฟ๐๐. Below are just a sample of some of the issues in sports culture that are continually surfacing in our communities. headlines from CBC articles. To view the articles from the headlines below, visit our link in bio on our Facebook profile"
"As NHL teams, players opt out of Pride Night events, concerns grow about league's commitment to change"
"World chess federation bans transgender women from competing in women's events"
"Rape culture manifests at all levels of sports, normalizing aggression, domination, and exclusion of women, and gender-diverse people."
No wonder "sexual violence" is so rampant - it's defined so broadly that someone looking at someone else can count. And their examples are even more ridiculous
This east LA girl went on a date with a masculine guy and "felt the feminism leaving" her body ๐ - "her heart is aflutter for this guys' guy out of Santa Monica who was confident, assertive, responsible, and caring."
TikTok user poses a race relations alternative to Man vs Bear question - ends up exposing white women’s hypocrisy : r/MensRights - "TikTok user White Woman Whisperer posed an alternative to the man vs bear question to black women: would you rather be alone in a conference room with a white man or a white woman? She said she would choose the white man because if a white man doesn’t like/respect her he simply won’t engage with her, whereas a white woman will fake niceties and will likely try to hide her disdain but will covertly express it via underhanded remarks/actions It seems many black women felt the same way, but how did white women respond?
But what about the rape and murder of women? A man is way more of a threat!
This is hurtful that you’d accuse us of trying to harm you
You can’t really generalize all of us into one group
Now, correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t those the exact arguments men made in the man vs bear question? The exact arguments that these same women immediately discredited? Suddenly they’re valid points when they’re in your defence? These white women got so mad at this that the TikTok creator is now completely demonetized To me this so clearly proves that feminism has fuck all to do with privilege/rights/injustice and has everything to do with playing the victim"
Meme - Feminist News: Alisa Valdes, Novelist: "I'm 55. My divorced straight women friends would rather eat flaming turds than get into a relationship with a man again. My divorced straight male friends are desperate to find another wife. With time comes wisdom. Women realize men are overrated, men realize... they're overrated."
We're still told that feminism isn't about hating men
This is the season of crunchy leaves, chunky knits - and pumpkin spice latte misogyny
You're only allowed to mock and shame men. Teasing women is misogyny
Meme - Genie: "I shall grant you one wish"
Woman: "I wish for equal rights"
Genie: "Granted"
Woman: "Wait nothing changed?"
“I Refused To Be Operated In Room Full Of Men”: Woman Shares Controversial Rant On Doctors : r/MensRights - "I'm a medical student and though this story is really crappy, you'd be surprised at how many women specifically REQUEST male doctors and how many women choose male OBGYNs over a female. These are conscious decisions made by them. Don't worry, for every 1 person like her, there are a hundred that request us. And to the feminists who support her being sexist, I await the day you come and take my job as an Oncologist from me. Cancer doesn't heal itself and I assure you my female patients would choose me over you a thousand times over."
"I am a woman who prefers male gynecologists. In my experience, women doctors have been judgmental and only used their experiences as truth. A man can’t do that and usually will be overly gentle and careful."
"Both my sisters refuse to see female gynecologists. Both will tell you the men are gentler."
"It's exactly this mindset (of the OOP) thats causing men to not help women. And they only have themselves to blame."
"We have a huge issue in the Family Doctor/Pediatrician department. Every specialist around here complains about how family medicine has turned into a dumpster fire. Your feelings are validated and that's your right to seek male physicians. My wife has met her fair share of underwhelming female docs and she personally has been frustrated about it. I haven't personally met many female docs so I don't want to judge just yet. However, large studies have shown female docs undergo regret in the med field higher than males and work less hours alongside completely leaving the field of medicine at much higher rates. In my specialty (oncology) very few women exist (80% male). The women that do exist are usually foreign born and the American oncologists usually don't go very far. I don't know why just yet. But on the flip side, you have many male docs who go far yet often end up killing themselves due to what we see as cancer docs. We had an oncologist who recently left in the middle of his shift, went home, and hung himself. These are real gender differences that exist in the medical field. It's often not a pretty sight, but it is like those men who work on oil rigs - if we don't do it, then who will? As long as I can save lives, I will endure."
"as soon as I commented on this post that popped up in my feed from a sub I’ve not joined, I was banned from another sub for participating in a red pill/incel sub. I may not know the purpose of this sub, but men are cool, I’m a chick, hope y’all aren’t a bunch of incel psychos. ๐"
Kaidi Wu, Ph.D. on X - "How women IMAGINE they'd react to sexual harassment is wildly different from how they ACTUALLY react when harassed. Julie Woodzicka & @ProfLaFrance created sexual harassment in lab and tested how women reacted when harassed by a male interviewer in real time. What happened:๐งต"
David Getzin on X - "But did they control for the appearance of the male interviewer? That’s an impactful variable."
Kaidi Wu, Ph.D. on X - "Harassment is harassment. It's a grave misperception that harassment is welcome if the harasser is "hot"."
Count Stackula on X - "If women cant even slightly accurately predict how they will react to harassment why should I believe you (a woman) when you insinuate you can predict how women would react given different hotness levels of the harasser. Ofc they will react more favourable to someone who they are attracted to."
Skoboto on X - "It is interesting that once you got to this question, you stopped thinking rationally and started thinking emotionally. The question is valid and testable, regardless of its morality."
Mark Milley’s Stylist ๐บ๐ธ on X- "Is it? Your statement implies there is some clear and objective binary standard delineating between “is harassment” and “is not harassment” Intuitively, other than at the extremes, this clearly is not true. It’s highly subjective Totally reasonable to wonder how appearance of the male impacts both perception and response of the woman"
Not to mention how Fairchild (2010) reports that "Attractiveness and age of the perpetrator, time of day, and whether the victim was alone or with friends were some of the categories that were selected as influencing both fear and enjoyment"
Naturally, she blocked those who asked her the questions she was unwilling and/or unable to answer
How Polarized Western Politics Affect Arab Women's Rights - "Many of the verses of the Quran portray women in a sexist way... Moreover, the belief that the Quran is the immutable and divine word of God, leaves very little—if any—space for critical thinking, opposition or reform. Such opposition may be considered blasphemy or heresy and the person concerned may be at risk of the death penalty in some Arab countries, or of being the victim of retaliation by religious fanatics. Rizvi’s piece was written in response to Max Fischer’s argument “that some of the most important architects of institutionalized Arab misogyny weren’t actually Arab. They were Turkish—or, as they called themselves at the time, Ottoman—British, and French.” This kind of argument is not only false and reductive, but dangerous and detrimental to the work of Arab feminists like me, who are being oppressed in the name of scripture. Imperialism played a role in the past, but it was not the only factor then or now. We have to acknowledge the cultural and religious factors that have made misogyny a norm among Arab communities or regressiveness and misogyny will continue to fester... If the right is concerned about women’s rights in the Arab world, to avoid hypocrisy they should also fight for women’s rights in the west... the implicit claim that we should tolerate the misogyny in our culture demonstrates a kind of racism: we are not held to the same standards as westerners. This attitude enables patriarchy and misogyny in Arab communities both in the west and in the Arab region. The left must also reflect on their motives and methods, they must fight to achieve equality for all, on the basis of individual rights rather than group identities."
I like how you need to obsess over minor non issues in the West or you're a hypocrite for caring about huge problems in the rest of the world
Mr Coconut employee alleges unfair dismissal due to pregnancy, company releases findings pointing to her poor performance - "Mr Coconut, a popular retail chain selling coconut drinks here, rebutted claims of “unfair dismissal and discrimination to a pregnant woman”, after a Facebook post by a former employee went viral. Responding to TODAY’s queries on Wednesday (Feb 7), the company said that its former customer service officer Charissa Tan’s poor performance, and not her pregnancy, was what led to her being dismissed... when Mr Coconut contacted her formally to give more details on her allegations and sought her consent to make public their communications "in the spirit of full transparency", she "suddenly refused" to cooperate with the investigations... Mr Coconut said that Ms Tan had joined the company on Nov 7 last year on a three-month probationary basis and this probation period was supposed to end on Feb 6. During this period, either party may give the other 24-hours’ notice in writing to terminate the contract, on a no-fault basis. Therefore, on Jan 17 when she was dismissed, Ms Tan was "actually not a confirmed employee" and was still in the midst of serving her three-month probation, Mr Coconut said. It added that her termination was based on the 24-hours’ notice period stated in her contract. It insisted that her pregnancy was “never a consideration” for her termination, and a longer one-week’s notice period was initially offered to her, but she then declined it... In its statement, Mr Coconut said: “At the material time that the decision was made to not confirm Ms Charissa Tan’s probation on Jan 15, no one had any reason to believe or suspect that Ms Charissa Tan was pregnant. From closed-circuit television footages, Ms Charissa Tan was still heavily smoking, more than three to four times a day.” In her Jan 18 post, Ms Tan said that she had laid her head down on her desk one of the days when she was feeling unwell, having just recovered from Covid-19. She added that she did the same for a few days to rest during her lunch hour. In response, Mr Coconut revealed that through its investigations, she had propped her mobile phone up against her laptop screen and was watching a movie on it openly during office hours. “This was not during lunch hour or nearing the end of the day as alleged in Ms Charissa Tan’s Facebook post,” it said. The company separately addressed claims of Ms Tan taking unpaid leave due to Covid-19, saying that she had already taken 12.5 days of leave days before completing her probation. Her leave entitlement of 14 days would have started only after her probation. Mr Coconut said that Ms Tan had filed a complaint with TADM and is trying to make a claim of S$53,000 from the company. This sum is nearly 18 times her monthly salary of S$3,000. It also said that although she had posted several screenshots of her alleged WhatsApp conversations with her direct supervisor in her Facebook post, she failed to disclose everything that had transpired. This included one exchange of Ms Tan saying that she was going to “seize this opportunity” to “make this a big hooha”, it added."
Carl on X - "Listening to WNYC (an affiliate of NPR) and it’s an amazing intellectual bubble. The gobs of assumptions in every sentence blow my mind. Ruth Whippman, author of “BoyMom” “Raising boys was this incredibly fraught political project.” Is it? Really? How about just…raising them?"
Argentina’s far-right president poised to shut down anti-gender violence agency
Visegrรกd 24 on X - "BREAKING: Javier Milei has disbanded the Ministry of Women and fired 85% of its employees. The rest were redirected to work in the old Department of Gender Protection, which will now be renamed as the “Department of Family Protection” ๐ฆ๐ท
The changes mean that the department will now help all people who are in abusive relationships, not just women."
Feminism is not about equality, after all
Gender equality is "far right"
Police investigate after woman's identity shared on misogynistic Facebook groups. Double standard? : r/MensRights - "9News Australia reports on group of 11,000 men in a group sharing images and info about women from dating apps. It is brought to attention of 9News there are 3.5 million women in similar groups doing same thing to men. 9News argues “yeah, but different for women.” Facebook takes down both groups for violating community standards."
Neil Gaiman on X - "As a feminist and a human being, I agree with @emwatson (read her speech) @UN_women #heforshe (pic by @amandapalmer)"
Exclusive: Neil Gaiman accused of sexual assault - "Neil Gaiman has been accused of sexual assault by two women with whom he was in consensual relationships and is the subject of a police complaint in New Zealand. Gaiman’s position is that he strongly denies any allegations of non-consensual sex with the women and adds New Zealand police did not take up his offer of assistance over one woman’s complaint in 2022, which, he says, reflects its lack of substance... Tortoise understands that he believes K’s allegations are motivated by her regret over their relationship and that Scarlett was suffering from a condition associated with false memories at the time of her relationship with him, a claim which is not supported by her medical records and medical history."
Let’s look at the sex accusations against Neil Gaiman - "He has described his politics as “far to the left of any political party,” though in his mind all politics just reduces to the question: “Why can’t we all be nice to each other?” That’s what he says, anyway. He has been a voice for many progressive causes like trans rights, and regularly pipes up with a prompt to “believe women” in the context of accusations made against other men. In 2018, during the hearings for Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, for example, Gaiman tweeted his support for accusations made by Christine Blasey Ford. “Men must not close our eyes and minds to what happens to women in this world,” he sermonizes... In The Sandman, currently being adapted as a series on Netflix, there’s an odd focus on a writer known as the ‘The Master’ who captures and rapes a mythical woman, Calliople, for creative inspiration. For years it has been received by readers as queasy-making. His writer character in “The Sandman” also wanted to be called “Master.” It began to seem as if his work was heavily rooted in S&M, when this prospect might not be apparent to casual readers... I imagine the writer who sees a continual stream of young women. They think they’re getting into a relationship with a superstar writer. Instead, they’re fodder for his work. Was his “far left” politics and advocacy for female victims part of an effort to distract from or disguise this personal situation? But really, he never intended his fans to find out—and when a few details emerged, he denied them."
Only misogynists don't BelieveWomen
Man Up and Take It: Do We Under-detect Men’s Suffering? - "When we think about the relative success of men and women in our society, our minds tend to jump to examples in which men excel. We have only to look at the greater proportion of male CEOs, professors, scientists, and world leaders to come to the conclusion that being a man in our society gives a person an advantage. At the same time, patterns that run in the opposite direction — where men experience negative outcomes — don’t seem to attract much attention. We focus on the success stories while essentially brushing aside statistics showing that a greater proportion of men are homeless, incarcerated, high school dropouts, or affected by substance use disorders. Why is it that when we consider examples of gender disparities, we seem to only consider areas where men achieve success? And why, when we look at distribution among the lowest social strata, those who experience the most hardship, do we struggle to acknowledge the fact that men are vastly over-represented there too... for centuries, women were denied educational and occupational opportunities that men could take for granted. It was not until we discussed men’s forced conscription and experiences in warfare that I began to question my assumptions. When we reached the topic of early working conditions (before the advent of legal workplace protections), I began to consider how societal stereotypes of men as breadwinners placed pressure on men to sacrifice their bodies in order to provide for their families. As the examples kept coming, I started to wonder why it had taken me so long to really contemplate this perspective... Through a series of studies, my colleagues and I set out to examine the psychological basis for this unexpected asymmetry, beginning with the seemingly logical hypothesis of gender bias in our moral typecasting. Moral typecasting theory contends that when individuals observe or evaluate a situation involving harm, they instinctively make a value judgment regarding the involved parties, perceiving one as malevolent, and the other as innocent. This cognitive expectation makes sense, given that many moral violations — a robbery or an assault, for instance — fit into a dualistic pattern. From this angle, it seemed to follow that we would more readily classify men as perpetrators and women as victims. However, as Kurt Gray and his colleagues have demonstrated, the human brain treats these roles as inverses and mutually exclusive. In other words, the more we perceive someone as a perpetrator, the more challenging it becomes to simultaneously perceive that same person as a victim. Since our psychological systems are ill-equipped to process ambiguity, we instinctively assign blame on one side of the equation and place our sympathies on the other. That observation alone, of course, doesn’t really explain why a gender bias might exist in our tendency to label individuals as perpetrators or victims. For that, we must look at gender stereotypes... The agency we ascribe to men seems to fit the agency inherent in the perpetrator (or harm-doer) role, while the passivity we ascribe to women is consistent with that of a suffering victim, even though feminists have rallied against these assumptions for over a century... men’s bodies have higher proportions of lean muscle mass than women’s. Research has found that increased musculature evokes lower levels of pity from others; the comparatively formidable physicality of men may make it more challenging to view them as deserving of sympathy. Likewise, there are numerous reasons why we more readily perceive women as victims. Through the lens of evolution, such a tendency can be associated with reproductive roles... it’s not unreasonable to assume that natural selection has favored psychological mechanisms that protect women from harm... With an awareness of all these factors, my colleagues and I undertook an examination of our tendency toward gender bias in our moral typecasting. We conducted six studies among over 3,000 individuals from four countries. In one, participants were asked to read a vignette depicting harm in the workplace. For this experiment, we specified the gender of the inflictor but left the recipient’s gender ambiguous. Participants were then asked to “recall” the gender of the harmed individual. Supporting our predictions, we found they were overwhelmingly more likely to assume that the harmed individual was female, even though we never specified any gender. People instinctively assumed a female victim!... This pattern supports the notion of a cognitive link between womanhood and victimhood; when influenced by a framework implying harm, using words such as victim or perpetrator, this link becomes even tighter... Across all six of our studies, we consistently observed a pattern in which participants more readily linked women with victimhood and men with harm perpetration. Our results repeatedly supported the existence of a gender bias in moral typecasting... Consistently, participants felt more pity and outrage when women were harmed in comparison to examples in which men experienced identical harm. This bias emerged even in the context of job loss. Other research reveals that when men lose their jobs, they experience worse outcomes than women who similarly become unemployed. Men’s greater suffering makes sense in this context, given our stereotyping of males as “the breadwinners.” Nonetheless, participants in our studies felt greater moral outrage and pity when it was a woman who had been laid off than they did when it was a man. These findings suggest that, even in cases where we should presumably be more capable of perceiving men as victims, our emotions continue to respond as though women have experienced greater suffering... when men are presumed to have inflicted harm, we will feel less inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt. Indeed, data from real world court rulings cohere with our findings. Male defendants are more likely to be found guilty and receive longer sentences than female defendants, even after holding the severity of the crime constant... We relegate men without question to community roles that require physical suffering and sacrifice, but when they suffer, we feel comparatively little compassion. When it comes to deciding who deserves our sympathy or our aid, our cognitive biases lead us to presume that men should just man up and take it."
Stereotypes are only bad when they impede the left wing agenda
Jennifer Leigh on X - "European/western cultures are by far the most egalitarian in the world yet modern feminists act like white men are the final boss of patriarchy, somehow uniquely awful among men. Be serious."
Wilfred Reilly on X - "White men actually made modern feminism possible, when you think about it. Ottomans just would have impaled 18,000 or whatever it took feminists, gone on with life."
Meme - "WHY ARE PEOPLE USING EXAMPLES FROM FICTION FOR THE "WAR ON WOMEN" *The Handmaid's Tale*
WHEN WE HAVE REAL LIFE EXAMPLES? *Afghan women in burqas*"
When you don't love women, but hate Christianity/The West
Meme - "*He-Man and Castle Grayskull* I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE!"
Meme - "How to identify a fake feminist. *almost all women kneeling, with one woman kneeling in position good for doggy style sex*"
Meme - "I'm a Feminist but I Can't Be Happy for Other Women
I need to get this off my chest because it's been eating me up inside. I'm a 29 year old female, and I've always identified as a feminist. I believe in equality and the empowerment of women. I advocate for women's rights, advocate for equal pay, and often speak out against sexism and misogyny (especially when the issues seem to affect me). But here's the thing: I can't seem to genuinely be happy for other women's successes. Whenever a friend gets a promotion, achieves a personal milestone, or even just receives a compliment, I feel this intense, gnawing jealousy. Instead of celebrating with them, I immediately start thinking of ways to one-up them, to make myself the center of attention. I hate this part of myself. I want to be supportive and uplifting, but instead, I find myself making snide comments or diverting the conversation back to me and my achievements. It's like I can't help but try to upstage them, to prove that I'm better, more accomplished, more deserving of attention. It's exhausting and I know it's toxic. How can I be the feminist I claim to be without all this jealousy and insecurity?"
Meme - Jake Shields @jakeshieldsajj: "Out of the world's ten richest women, all 10 got their wealth from their husbands or fathers This is kinda hilarious if you think about it"
