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Tuesday, January 23, 2024

Links - 23rd January 2024 (1 - Palestine/Middle East Peace)

Meme - Marina Medvin @MarinaMedvin: "Jews were ethnically cleansed from the Middle East and Northern Africa. Jews were ethnically cleansed from Eastern Europe. But you know who wasn't ethnically cleansed? Arabs from israel and Arabs from Gaza. That's just another lie.
"THIS IS ETHNIC CLEANSING
Jewish Population 1948 vs. 2023
EGYPT - 63,550 vs 3
SYRIA - 40,000 vs 0
IRAN - 100,000 vs 8,500
IRAQ - 150,000 vs 4
LEBANON - 20,000 cs 29
MOROCCO - 265,000 vs 2,100
YEMEN - 55,000 vs 1
ALGERIA - 140,000 vs 200
LIBYA - 38,000 vs 0
TUNISIA - 105,000 vs 1,000
GAZA - 7,949 vs 0
THIS IS NOT
ARAB POPULATION 1948 VS. 2023
ARABS IN ISRAEL - 156,000 vs 2,100,000
ARABS IN GAZA - 80,000 vs 2,000,000"

Meme - "*Flying Unicorn*
From the river to the sea
Palestine is fantasy"

Meme - Visegrád 24 @visegrad24: "The regime in Iran has started flogging women again for not covering their hair in public.  Roya Heshmati suffered 74 lashes from mullah regime for the “crime”  Any protest march planned in London?"
Plus, the usual excuses for the double standard about Israel don't hold. Iran is a democracy (and so amenable to public pressure) and Biden supports Iran (and so demonstrations will pressure him)

Meme - @DrEliDavid: ""Israel is committing genocide in Gaza"
Rwanda population: *population drop in 1994 due to genocide*
Jewish population: *population drop in 1939 due to genocide*
Cambodian population: *population drop in 1973 due to genocide*
Gaza population: *no drop*
Can you see the difference?"

Meme -Drew Pavlou 柏乐志 🇦🇺🇺🇦🇹🇼 @DrewPavlou:"
Look at how Hamas supporters spit on Uyghur Muslims facing genocide at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party.  I spent my entire early twenties advocating for Uyghur Muslims, even copping arrest while peacefully protesting for their cause.   People like @im_PULSE  sadly turned against me and portrayed me as a racist hypocrite for not similarly embracing Palestinian activism. I was greatly disappointed as I always looked up to him.  The reason I have maintained distanced  between myself and the Palestinian activist movement is very simple. I share many of the same concerns in that I support a Palestinian state and I want an end to horrific violence against Palestinian civilians. The actual activist movement itself though unfortunately has major problems with tankies, anti-Semites, Assadists and Hamas supporters making up a great portion of their base.  This part of the movement sadly does not care for other Muslims facing persecution. They in fact turn the other way if their oppressors are part of the non-Western camp. I cannot ever treat these people seriously. If they only care about Muslims when Jews are involved, they are not principled humanitarians - they are simply Jew haters. And given the long and horrific history of anti-Semitism, we cannot turn a blind eye to this terrible fact"
HAMASPILLED @bimboco...: "Not this again"
Halal Nation @HalalNation_: "May Allah protect the Uyghurs"
*Praying Hijabi being assaulted by China hands*: "Send help please"

Meme - Daniel Rubenstein @paulrubens: "There is an enormous gap between what Westerners think the Palestinian cause is and what Palestinians think the Palestinian cause is."
Wesley Yang @wesyang: "Are you saying it's not about Queer liberation, climate justice, and the struggle against fatphobia? In the real world, of course, what Westerners think matters far more. This divergence also matters.
[Westerners with no knowledge of the region's two-decade old consensus]: two states living side by side
Palestinians:"
Shai Davidai @ShaiDavidai: "And, of course, their personal favorite:  (Notice that they are not even pretending to say that they are chanting for coexistence. They don’t want Jews in Israel. They are literally saying the quiet part out loud.)"
"Min il-maya lal maya, Falasteen 3arabiye
(From the river to the sea, Palestine is Arab)"

Drew Pavlou 柏乐志 🇦🇺🇺🇦🇹🇼 on X - "You are historically illiterate if you believe the Israeli-Palestinian conflict begun in 1948. The first inter-communal violence and massacres begun in the 1920s.   For example, see the 1929 Hebron massacre where Arab nationalists massacred more than 65 Jews, ransacked synagogues and pillaged Jewish homes. Later Irgun and Lehi terrorists would brutally massacre Palestinian Arabs.   Both peoples have been radicalised and brutalised by more than a century of violence, this is why the hatred is so deep and strong. Neither Palestinians or Jewish Israelis are evil - they are each responding to a century of brutal massacres and round after round of revenge based violence.   I will never in a million years accept that Hamas was justified in carrying out their barbaric slaughter on October 7 but I can at least rationally recognise and understand that Hamas and Palestinian militancy are a response to decades of Israeli violence - these forces don’t emerge out of a vacuum. But I am angry that the very same people who insist we recognise that Hamas does not emerge from a vacuum simultaneously often argue against the validity and existence of Jewish pain and suffering, as though Israeli violence emerges from a void of primordial Jewish evil.   I can understand that Palestinians are radicalised by Israeli violence. But no one will ever accept that Jewish suffering is real, that possibly Jewish Israelis may have been radicalised by the experience of the Holocaust as well as more than a century of massacres and terror attacks. When we can recognise that both peoples are both victims and perpetrators, that both have legitimate grievances and both have suffered tremendously, maybe there can be peace. Instead of the deluded and dark fantasies of Hamasniks who dream of driving the Jews into the sea and the Kahanists who dream of expelling Palestinians into the Sinai."
ElizabethBennet on X - "You can go further up in time, always the same story... 1834  looting of Safed"
Andrei Schwartz 🎗️ on X - "Drew - not at all equivalent. Ours were a reaction to the Arab massacres of Jews. A self defense attempt. And, actually, Jews were slaughtered by Arabs for centuries, not for the last 100 yrs only."

Amy Alkon on X - "This is an absolutely must-watch interview with Syrian-born Palestinian social activist Manar Al-Sharif.     She went to Gaza to try to help the civilians there get necessities and education to better themselves and  had her eyes opened to the brutal and impoverished reality of Hamas in Gaza for the Palestinian people    I watched almost all of it before I went to bed. I I’m now on the part  where Hamas threw her in prison for refusing to stop speaking up about Hamas’ mistreatment and theft of aid from the Gazan civilians they have left impoverished by stealing billions meant to better the lives of Palestinian families.    Not  a short interview but worth listening to in a way a few interviews are.  Amazing stuff. Palestinian woman telling it like it is, and damn, it’s ugly.    This shows why @IDF  is doing a huge service to the poor Palestinian people brutalized and murdered and left with nothing by Hamas.    An amazing part of this is where she mentions that the people told her life was better when the Israelis actually “occupied” Gaza.   The people had work and pretty good lives and didn’t encounter the horrible brutality of Hamas. Those who remember these days really resent Hamas, she explains.    Wow."
Damn Mossad agent!
Notably, she comments that when Israel controlled Gaza, the people said "while there was an occupation, it did not interfere with daily life" (11:01). Clearly, Gazans need to be educated about the importance of Resistance! She also forgot to blame Israel for Hamas detaining her and torturing other prisoners

More than kin, less than kind: Jews and Palestinians as Canaanite cousins - "The years around 2010 saw a spate of publications using high-density single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) array data to map the population genetics of various Jewish groups, as well as their relationships to non-Jewish populations... The paper’s authors found, unsurprisingly, that the Ashkenazim, Northern European Jews, were a mixed population, with both European and Middle Eastern ancestry. At the same time, Middle Eastern Jews, whether Sephardi (from Morocco, Egypt, Turkey, Greece and Syria) or Mizrahi (from Iraq and Iran) or Yemeni, were by and large more (Mizrahi) or less (Sephardi) similar to other Middle Eastern populations... Subsequent papers further falsified theories like Shlomo Sand’s 2008 contention in The Invention of the Jewish People that the Ashkenazim descended solely from European and Central Asian converts, or on the other hand, the assertion that the Ashkenazim were entirely a Middle Eastern people, with no biological connection to other Europeans... The takeaway from these arguments, where Ashkenazim are less than 50% Middle Eastern, is supposedly that Israeli Jews are invaders to the region, primarily European-descended, and in no way rooted in Palestine (non-European Jews, who make up at least half of Israel’s Jewish population, are pointedly ignored in these gotcha posts)."

Meme - Dr.Tunc Tasbas @DrTasbas: "Turkiye ruled the entire Middle East, the Balkans and North Africa in peace and justice for 400 years. The Ottoman soldier would never harm the property or life of any civilian. Those who cannot even peacefully govern a 60-70 year old tribal state called Israel cannot understand this." Readers added context they thought people might want to know: "During the April Uprising of 1876, Ottoman soldiers burned sixty five villages and five monasteries, and killed 30,000 people (including the slaughter of 5000 civilians in the Batak Massacre)."

Meme - Dr. Eli David: "Palestine football team, 1934: - All Jewish - Colors blue and white
Tell me more about the glorious state of "Palestine" before the establishment of modern Israel"

Visegrad 24 @visegrad24: "Notice anything about the colours and last names of the 1934 Mandatory Palestine National Football of 1934?
MANDATORY PALESTINE NATIONAL FOOTBALL TEAM OF 1934
PLAYERS
Pinhas Fiedler
Avraham Reznik
David Weinberg
Zalman Friedmann
Gdalyahu Fuchs
Paul Kastenbaum
Perry Kraus
Haim Reich
Yohanan Sukenik
Amnon Harlap
Avraham Nudelman
Yaacov Zelibanski
Yaacov Levi-Meir
COLOURS"

AG on X - "On November 28th, 1941 (prior to Israel's existence as a modern state), The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini, traveled to Berlin to meet with Hitler.  We happen to have minutes from that meeting:  The Grand Mufti conveyed that he admired Hitler and viewed the Nazis as natural allies because they had the same enemies, which he named as "The English, The Jews, and the Communists". The Grand Mufti then offered to actively participate in the war by forming an Arab Legion to fight with the Nazis. He suggested Germany release the Arab prisoners they were holding to serve in such a legion. He also asked Hitler for a public declaration opposing a Jewish homeland.  Hitler told him that Germany stood for "uncompromising war against the Jews," which included opposition to a Jewish homeland. And that Germany was committed to asking one nation after the other to all "solve" their "Jewish problem."   Hitler however went on to explain that Germany was currently focused on the war with England and the USSR and therefore did not want to distract or risk increasing fighting in the west by making any public declarations about the future of lands in the Middle East.   Hitler then committed that after they had won the war in the East, then he would dedicate Germany to the destruction of the Jewish element in the Arab sphere. He would then comply with the Mufti's requests for a public declaration and ask the Mufti to actively help with those efforts.   There is plenty of evidence that Hitler looked down on Arabs and viewed them as sub-human, but the willingness to potentially partner with The Grand Mufti and other based on shared hatred of Jews is very revealing. While obviously social media trolls aren't Hitler or The Grand Mufti, the prioritization of antisemitism above other differences is not all that different from some of the alliances we have seen since 10/7."
Damn Israel! Why would they force the Palestinians to collaborate with Hitler by being formed and stealing their land?

Thread by @tobiaschneider on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App - "I remember one thing that set me apart from a lot of other Western students in Middle Eastern studies was my being German. Not because it provided me with some unique insight, but because people across the region would regularly come up to me and congratulate me on the Holocaust. I mean sometimes you do sometimes you don't. I can argue with a good and smart friend over drinks. But one time an acquaintance took me to a family retreat in the mountains and when I walked in half the room - incl grandma - got up and did a Hitler salute.   Sometimes it even gets amusing. You attend a Track II for Syria and the factions would spend the whole day tearing into each other, only to sit together in the evening and solemnly agree that Israel was behind it all anyway, and that there would be peace when the Jews decided so. In a similar vein, Israeli/Jewish researcher friends sometimes find their background surprisingly useful across the region. Some Arab countries have strict laws against engaging with Israelis. But their officials also all believe Jews run the world and want them on their side. It's just a sort of background noise to regional politics. Easy enough to tune out if you aren't particularly sensitive to it. And it's naturally a matter of degrees everywhere. For many Arab liberals, the idea of an Israeli is more of an abstraction taken from news stories. Importantly, I generally experienced less of this among Palestinians (in the Westbank) for whom oppression was a real material condition tied to specific indignities and demands. Israelis in their breadth of attitudes were not an abstraction and their history not a punchline. The real psychos were oftentimes far removed from the conflict. Some of the most insane ones were Westerners waving Hezbollah flags (or those t-shirts you can buy in the Baalbek parking lot) for edgy thrills. A lot of liberal-minded people who work in the region are very good at tuning this out or setting it aside or sometimes rationalizing as lack of education or whatever. But important to occasionally state the obvious."

Michal on X - "This is Nizar Banat, a Palestinian activist and human rights defender. Nizar spoke about corruption in the Palestinian Authority and criticized its policies.  His leadership and presence threatened them, so the PA imprisoned him. the next morning the PA told Banat's family that his situation deteriorated overnight and he "passed away". When asked about the body, the PA said they already buried him. They buried him so the family wouldn't see the marks of violence and torture that caused his death. The PA  currently exerts partial civil control in the West Bank and in the Gaza Strip."
David Silverberg on X - "And not a single "pro-Palestinian" activist will say anything about this. Because pro-Palestinian activists aren't pro-Palestinian, but anti-Israel."
Why would the Zionists kill him?

Avi Kaner ابراهيم אבי on X - "“The story of Christmas is about a Palestinian Jew born into an occupied country, having to flee as refugees into Egypt.” - Father Edward Beck @FrEdwardBeck on @CNN a few minutes ago. @NY_Arch @CardinalDolan"
Razor on X - "Bible Word Count (ESV):
Palestine: 0
Israel: 2,300+"
Willis Eschenbach on X - "Huh? Has this guy ever read the Bible? It says Joseph and Mary were headed to their HOME TOWN to register for the census. How could Jesus be a "refugee", much less "Palestinian"? The term "Palestine" doesn't occur in any records until five centuries later. And people wonder why the number of Christians is falling … with holy liars like this POS, it's no surprise.  w."
Avi Nir-Feldklein on X - "I wonder which gospel is the right one, Father's Beck or Matthew's. Was it Palestine or Judaea?: Matthew 2:1 (KJV) "When Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea, in the days of King Herod,* behold, magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, saying, “Where is the newborn king of the Jews? We saw his star* at its rising and have come to do him homage.”"
Alexander de Capo on X - "This is the same guy who told unvaccinated Catholics that they did not deserve to come to Mass."
Matthew Marsden on X - "I am a Catholic father of nine, and I am so sick of these liberal Priests. Can we just enjoy Christmas without you pushing a political agenda? No point in tagging Dolan, Avi. The Bishops won’t do a thing."
Dovi Safier on X - "This clown was sacked by the Rockville Center (Long Island) Diocese in 2021. Why is @CNN still letting him pretend that he’s anything but a fraud?"

Imam of Peace on X - "Any priest, pastor, bishop, archbishop, pope - you name it, says that “Jesus was a Palestinian”, has absolutely no respect for himself, and no regard for the truth. Jesus was from Bani Israel, and a Jew from Judea. Using Christmas sermons to imply that Jesus would stand with Hamas or Islamic Jihad is outrageous and insulting to both Jesus and Christianity. If you hate Israel, then say so. Don’t hide behind the pulpit, wearing the Cross, and promoting Islamist propaganda."

Sudan’s cycle of violence: ‘There is a genocide going on in West Darfur’
Weird. Where are the mass protests?

GimpelTheZionist🇮🇱 on X - "What kind of evil would put a child in danger like this? Then you get the biggest imbeciles in the world that refuse to see the asymmetrical nature of this war. Their hate for Jews blinds them from the truth. #Israel #Hamas"
Vivid.🇮🇱 on X - "⚠️⚠️ Videos found on a Hamas operative's computer, showing how they train Palestinian children for use as child soldiers. Act surprised."

Jesus was Jewish, the end - "others chanted, “Jesus was Palestinian.” This seems to be becoming more popular of late and understandably so. If you can make the claim that the little divine infant child was, in fact, a Palestinian, then obviously it is going to attract support for your current cause: Jesus was a Palestinian. Jesus was born at Christmas. Targeted airstrikes on Palestinians in Gaza at Christmas are therefore wrong. Couple of problems with this though and not just with faulty logic. According to the Gospel accounts in Matthew and Luke, Jesus was born in Bethlehem, a town now in the West Bank and under Palestinian control. But in A.D zero it was known primarily as being the city of the Israelite king, David, in the region of Judea. And the birth of Jesus appeared to fulfil a prophecy that the ruler of Israel would be born in the town... So, if these protesters want to claim Jesus as their own, they are also going to have to claim him as the ruler of Israel. This might not fit into their worldview. It was a hundred years after the death of Christ, following a Jewish uprising, that the Roman rulers of the region decided to rename the area Syria Palaestina. However, for the anti-Israel protesters, it doesn’t matter that the propaganda is untruthful, only that it is chanted again and again. But this historical revisionism also underscores a deeper lie and a deeper desire for Hamas and its followers. If Jesus was Palestinian then there can have been no land called Israel, no land in the past and no right to exist in the present or the future. It is still bizarre, however, that these demonstrators would account Jesus as one of their own. Because, if baby Jesus had been around on Oct. 7 he would have found himself butchered and beheaded with the creche burnt to the ground with Joseph and Mary inside. Not because he was “Palestinian” but because he was a Jew."

Dawood Ezidinos on X - "This is a rough map of all indigenous Middle Eastern groups with most of them living as third-class citizens in predominantly islamic countries. Any one of these groups getting their national state is a collective success to all of us. No more Islamic states before we get ours."
Uzay Bulut on X - "The Middle East, Anatolia and North Africa used to be majority Christian with sizable Yazidi and Jewish communities. There used to be notable ethnic and religious diversity of indigenous peoples in the region. Since the advent of Islam in the 7th century, all these indigenous non-Muslim communities have been persecuted by Islamic tyranny. As a result, they’ve lost their States, sovereignty, liberties, autonomy and lives.  Today, their non-official, dhimmi (second-class citizen) status is ongoing. Some are even on the verge of extinction.  Jewish people broke that curse in 1948, freed their ancient lands from Islamic colonialism and reestablished their State.   May Israel’s rebirth set a precedent to all stateless and oppressed non-Muslims in that part of the world."

We need to talk about those journalists who praised Hitler - "a BBC employee, Tala Halawa, tweeted in praise of Hitler in 2014, during the last major flare-up of tensions between Israel and Gaza. Ms Halawa is a digital journalist for the BBC. She specialises in Israeli-Palestinian affairs. Last week I watched a video report she made of the growing trend for celebs like Bella Hadid to noisily signal their support for Palestine. I thought it was quite interesting. Little did I know that the person who made it has previously said nice things about Hitler.  It was seven years ago. In 2014, during Israel’s Operation Protective Edge offensive against Hamas, Halawa tweeted ‘#HitlerWasRight’. We can be pretty sure she didn’t mean he was right to have been a vegetarian or to have been a fan of Beethoven. She also said, ‘Israel is more Nazi than Hitler’ – my emphasis. This is a vile anti-Semitic slur, in which the Jewish state or the Jewish people are essentially accused of having internalised the evil attitudes and behaviour of the regime that tried to wipe them out 80 years ago. Halawa also tweeted that ‘ur media is produced by ur zionist government in order 2 produce ignorant people’ and ‘#Zionists can’t get enough of our blood’.  CNN’s seeming fan of Hitler is one Adeel Raja. He is a freelance journalist in Pakistan. He isn’t employed by CNN but he has contributed to the channel in recent years. This month, as the Israel-Hamas conflict flared up once more, Raja tweeted: ‘The world today needs another Hitler.’ Yes, that’s right – the American news giant that has spent the past five years telling us that everything is fascism, constantly insisting that Trumpism and Brexit and other populist revolts have ugly echoes of the 1930s, had a contributor who wants Hitler to return to teach those filthy Jews a lesson. To borrow a phrase from journalism on this side of the pond: you couldn’t make it up.   It wasn’t the first time Raja expressed admiration for Hitler. In 2014, during the World Cup, he tweeted: ‘The only reason I am supporting Germany in the finals – Hitler was a German and he did good with those Jews.’ He has also tweeted: ‘Hail Hitler.’ It’s a shame he isn’t a spelling Nazi as well as an admirer of Nazis... Both the BBC and CNN, the self-styled moral consciences of the West’s right-thinking set, had reporters who relatively recently, or very recently, expressed support for Hitler. Just think about that. This should alarm us. It should alert us to how mainstream anti-Semitism disguised as anti-Zionism has become.  What is most striking is the relative lack of fuss and fury these cases have generated. Yes, there has been a lot of commentary, some of it rightly angry. But generally it feels muted. This scandal hasn’t trended in the way one might expect. The cancel-culture mobs of the radical left have been especially schtum. The kind of people who will spend days and days agitating for the sacking of someone who made a joke about ‘trannies’ 20 years ago have been strikingly quiet about mainstream reporters who PRAISED ADOLF HITLER.  Once again we can see the double standard that is always deployed in relation to anti-Jewish hatred. Imagine if it was discovered that a reporter for the Daily Telegraph had tweeted approvingly of a genocide against black people. Or if a writer for the Wall Street Journal was unveiled as a loather of Muslims who fantasised about their removal from the face of the Earth... The Hitler tweets controversy hasn’t only raised serious questions about the BBC and CNN. It also raises the question of why racial hatred against Jews doesn’t bother the woke set anywhere near as much as other forms of racial hatred do. These are the kind of people who are hyper-sensitive to prejudicial speech, who see racism and Islamophobia and transphobia everywhere, and who will furiously cancel anyone who fails to use all the correct identitarian terminology. Yet when journalists at two of the top broadcasters are revealed to have spoken favourably about the man responsible for the most horrific racial crime in history, they look the other way. That demands an explanation."
Supporting Nazis is good if you're bashing Israel. It's just anti-Zionism

In Gaza and Israel, danger of incitement to violence lurks - "In Gaza, a clothing store called "Hitler 2" has mannequins posed outside holding knives and dressed in T-shirts with "Stab!" written across the chests... In Gaza, the Islamist group Hamas that controls the territory has openly encouraged violence, publishing videos online that urge Palestinians to join a new "knife intifada", or uprising, against Israeli occupation... Outside "Hitler 2", whose owner declined to be interviewed, young Palestinians this week said they liked the shop and were eager to carry out attacks.  "The name of the shop is Hitler and I like him because he was the most anti-Jewish person," said 20-year-old Hijaz Abu Shanab. "It is better for us now to go and die since we are living like the dead. I like the clothes and the name."... Palestinians acknowledge that there has been widespread incitement on social media, including Facebook and WhatsApp, encouraging people to attack Israelis... Arutz Sheva, a news site popular among Israel's religious community and its largely rightist Russian immigrant population, on Thursday took down a video game on its children's pages in which players used sticks and umbrellas to "neutralize" bearded and robed attackers bearing knives and guns."
From 2015. Of course, the left support "intifada"
Weird how the Hitler 2 shop owner didn't get the memo that he was anti-Zionist, not anti-Jewish
Of course, the article draws a false equivalence between a niche website aimed at the Israeli religious community about defending yourself against terrorists which got taken down and the mainstream anti-Semitism in Palestine that persists across decades and is constantly celebrated

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