FUREY: New poll shows majority of Canadians are ready to live with COVID-19 | Toronto Sun - "there are now signs that those numbers have been flipped around. It now appears to be the case that while a third of people remain COVID skittish, two thirds of people are done with being afraid and are done with restrictions on their lives. Governments be warned. The emergence of the omicron variant brought with it a fresh round of fear-mongering news headlines. What if it’s more deadly? What if it evades the vaccines? What if new cases skyrocket out of control? This is the news cycle that unfolded during previous waves and following the emergence of other variants. It seemed like a vicious circle with no way out. The other week I wrote that we’ve been conditioned to have a Pavlovian response to scary virus stories: reports come in that cases are rises and the public cries out “lock us down!” But the cycle may now be broken... A new poll by Maru Public Opinion reveals that even in the face of omicron fear-mongering, Canadians just aren’t all that COVID concerned anymore. They’re ready to move on... What’s interesting is that these respondents also seem to have an exaggerated view of omicron’s severity. Half agreed with this phrase: “This Omicron variant virus is being underestimated—it will be both highly contagious and more deadly than the last COVID wave”... One of the other Maru questions offers a possible explanation as to why people are relatively relaxed. Two thirds agreed with this phrase: “Whatever this new COVID virus variant may be, the current vaccines or peoples’ own immunity will protect them from what it could amount to”. It’s been bizarre to watch some TV doctors and health officials basically undermine confidence in the vaccines — which is what you’re doing once you start musing about ramping up the restrictions on everyone even once you’re at a 90% vaccination rate."
Chris Selley: Treat us like adults and show us the Omicron plan - "Month after month after month, Canadians have seen certain media outlets present experts’ worst-case scenarios as plausible outcomes, then watched as those outcomes fell miles short of occurring. Sometimes that was because individuals and governments took steps to avoid those worst-case scenarios; other times, the expert projections were simply miles off. The latter happened recently in Ontario. The province’s “Science Table” projected a huge back-to-school wave: as many as 9,000 cases a day by October, unless people dramatically reduced their contacts with others. There is no evidence such a reduction occurred, yet something more like the Science Table’s best-case scenario came to pass: Cases peaked just four days later at 757. After all this time, even with cases in six provinces at all-time highs, it would thus be understandable if individual Canadians tuned out those certain media outlets’ attempts to paint the scariest possible portrait of the Omicron variant and forged on with their lives... unless cases peak soon, it won’t be long before it becomes literally untenable: There’ll be no one left to run the health-care system, drive the buses or ring in your groceries."
EDITORIAL: It's time for Canadians to just say no - "There’s been a great deal of talk for many months about learning to live with COVID and acknowledging when the virus has become endemic. If that doesn’t happen now, when will it happen? The vast majority of Canadians have been vaccinated, and older and high-risk persons are already well on their way to receiving booster shots. Meanwhile, even though the Omicron variant is considered more transmissible, all indications are that it is also milder. Nobody serious seems to be disputing that fact.
FUREY: Docs warn isolation of close contacts needs to end - "Ontario medical experts are sounding the alarm that the policy of isolating everyone who is deemed a close contact of a COVID-19 case could grind society to a halt if it doesn’t soon change. “There was a moment in the U.K. where they struggled to keep things going because so many people were infected or exposed,” said Dr. Peter Juni, scientific director of the Ontario Science Table... “It’s highly disruptive, it leads to great uncertainties, and it’s not productive,” said Dr. Martha Fulford, an infectious diseases physician in Hamilton, of the isolation of close contacts. “It’s particularly unnecessary now that we have the vast majority of adults vaccinated.”"
Naturally, covid apartheid is still justified based on "protecting" others even though the overwhelming majority of adults are vaccinated
This was prescient
NP View: No time for an Omicron lockdown - "There is much we do not yet know about Omicron, the new COVID variant that has some Canadian officials inadvisably panicking. But here’s what we do know: lockdowns are exceedingly harmful to the general public — psychologically, economically, socially and even physically. They should not even be considered. Any advice for governments to shutter businesses or schools as a means to controlling the spread of the virus should be ignored, full stop. Whatever justifications there might have been for draconian restrictions during earlier waves of the pandemic when we knew little about the virus, no longer apply. Twenty-one months into this endless, waking nightmare, the greater threat is to our civil liberties and mental health. Whatever Omicron’s severity, there’s no getting around the reality that the virus will continue to mutate and that we will have to learn to live with COVID. It’s long past time governments stop reflexively leaning on intrusive health restrictions... In the prematurely losing their minds camp would be Dr. Peter Jüni, the head of the Ontario COVID-19 Science Advisory Table, who sparked alarm when he said , “There is a myth out there that this is mild. We need to address this myth now.” It was a poor and, frankly, irresponsible choice of words. A myth suggests we know the opposite to be true. That isn’t the case; there is no data to back up Jüni’s statement... One University of Johannesburg researcher went so far as to say that, “Omicron is extremely mild. The rest of the world has nothing to fear.”"
Omicron may be no worse than flu and panic is unjustified, U.K. government told - "The first real-world study looking at 78,000 Omicron cases in South Africa found the risk of hospitalisation is 29 per cent lower compared to the Wuhan strain, and 23 per cent lower than delta, with vaccines holding up well... Professor Robert Dingwall, a government COVID advisor, from Nottingham Trent University, said it was clear from the South African data that panic was unjustified. Speaking in a personal capacity, Prof Dingwall said: “The Omicron situation seems to be increasingly absurd. There is obviously a lot of snobbery about South African science and medicine but their top people are as good as any you would find in a more universally developed country."
I remember covid hystericists crowing that delta was not less lethal than the original Wuhan strain, despite the general tendency in virology being that viruses become more infectious but less deadly. So much for that
I remember a covid hystericist saying he would only trust US studies. So much racism
Omicron study concludes variant more resistant to coronavirus vaccines, causes less severe covid - The Washington Post - "He said the disease may be less severe in South Africa because more than 70 percent of the population had already been exposed to the coronavirus... Most infections are described as mild, with recoveries usually within three days, he said. The most common early symptom reported is a scratchy throat, followed by nasal congestion, a dry cough and myalgia, or aches, manifesting in lower back pain. He said private hospitals reported that most patients were unvaccinated and many were initially admitted for non-covid-related illnesses. There was less evidence of respiratory infections in omicron-infected patients, compared with the other variants, with fewer patients requiring oxygen... “I think it’s reasonable to extrapolate from what’s being seen in South Africa until we get evidence to the contrary,” said John P. Moore, an immunologist at Weill Cornell Medicine. “The evidence is there is going to be a higher degree of vaccine failure against mild infections — we’ve already seen that with delta. … It’s not great, but it’s not as bad as seeing massive failure that leads to hospitalization and death.”"
Of course this means we must continue to demonise natural immunity and insist everyone must be vaccinated, even if there is some evidence that natural immunity is better than vaccine immunity
South Africa's Omicron mortality data offers fresh hope as much smaller percentage of hospitalized patients die - "just 4.5 per cent of patients died during the Omicron wave compared to 21.3 per cent before the variant took hold. The team said that if the findings were reproduced globally, there would be a “complete decoupling of case and death rates,” which would end the epidemic and usher in an endemic phase... 63 per cent of Omicron wave admissions were “incidental COVID” having tested positive after going into hospital for a different reason. The number needing intensive care was also far lower — one per cent versus 4.3 per cent, and only one-third had COVID-19 pneumonia, of which 72 per cent had mild to moderate disease."
Is the official Omicron paranoia overblown? Frustration, fatigue overtake fear of 'doomsday' warnings - "“We’ve all seen this horror movie before, and when you’ve watched the killer jump out brandishing a weapon 10 times — even when you’ve watched him kill — it just doesn’t freak you out the same way,” Grant wrote. “The same rerun has been playing for 21 months. We’re living through a phenomenon that risk experts might call a boring apocalypse.“ When COVID first revealed itself to the world, “no doubt its novelty was part of what made it scary,” Derek Koehler, a professor of psychology at the University of Waterloo said in an email. “The idea of a global pandemic sounded like something from a horror film.” While he wonders how much people have really become desensitized to SARS-CoV-2, “we’ve lived through it, or at least part of it, so it makes sense that some of that fear has been replaced by fatigue, frustration or even boredom.” The rolling waves, the ever-changing guidance on what’s allowed, discouraged and then allowed again, has had people living in a state of constant flux, Koehler said, and the human brain loathes uncertainty. “If we do see a decrease in compliance with public health guidance in response to Omicron, it could be because people feel less fearful about COVID than they did a year ago. But fatigue, frustration and a sense that the pandemic will never end might be larger contributors.” But individually, and as a society, “we might also think about the price we have already paid” in battling COVID, Koehler said. “Letting down our guard now might feel as if it undoes those earlier sacrifices.” The problem isn’t so much that people have become too relaxed, said McGill University anthropologist Samuel Veissière. “This is a normal coping response to the ‘new normal’ of the pandemic,” he said. Rather, “media and government continue to relay catastrophizing messages that are out of touch with actual threat levels.” “Our species evolved to be adaptable and resilient in the face of danger, and thrived in the wake of actual catastrophes that were much, much worse than COVID,” said Veissière, assistant professor of psychiatry and co-director of the Culture, Mind and Brain program at McGill... “They see evidence in their everyday life that these measures have worked, and they are making statistically correct assumptions by not panicking when a new variant causes more infections, but no spike in severe illness and death.” Despite “doomsday” scenarios, “that comparatively few people are panicking.…. Is once again a testament to our species’ remarkably resilient nature,” Veissière said. There’s a whole biology around stress, and the worst type of stress is chronic, unpredictable stress, said Dr. Roger McIntrye, a professor of psychiatry and pharmacology at the University of Toronto. When animals are subjected to acute stress, “they manage fine,” McIntyre said. They largely adapt to chronic stress, too. “But when they’re subjected to chronic, unpredictable stress — they never know when the event is going to end — they end up with heart disease, obesity, diabetes, brain damage and premature mortality.” The pandemic began with the suggestion that it would take just two weeks of restrictions to “flatten” COVID’s spread. “We’re now starting year three of this. You can’t make this up, this is a sick, sick situation,” McIntrye said. “The notion that people should just be told to stay home, I would have thought we would have learned a bit more by now. There are hazards to that.” The World Health Organization defines health as physical, but also mental and social wellbeing. “We need to protect all of those,” McIntrye said. “I think people are fed up, I think people have had enough.” You can see and hear the exhaustion everywhere, he said... “But it’s looking increasingly to me that we’re going to have COVID forever. The question is, how are we going to identify a life living with COVID? What’s that going to look like? And that’s going to take some pretty brave leadership.”"
It doesn't matter if years-long covid hysteria causes more damage than covid, since clearly covid is the only thing we should worry about
FIRST READING: Another ruinous lockdown just for old time's sake - "There are plenty of politicians and public health types now telling Canadians to worry about omicron, but the country largely appears to be checking out . Just six months ago, nearly 70 per cent of Canadian supported a fresh round of lockdowns to respond to the delta variant. Now, support for lockdowns has dropped to barely half... things are going quite well in South Africa , the first country to record cases of the omicron variant. Of identified cases, omicron only sent 1.7 per cent of patients to hospital , compared to 19 per cent for South Africa’s prior waves of delta variant. Even that 1.7 per cent is inflated by the fact that milder cases are being admitted because there is now adequate space to hold them. Canada’s population isn’t as young as South Africa’s, but so far Canadian omicron cases do seem to be rising without yielding the typical rate of hospitalizations that would be expected from prior COVID-19 waves . As of Friday, of 1,000 confirmed carriers of the omicron variant in Ontario, only two have required hospitalization... A potentially chilling line item can be found deep within the federal government’s latest fiscal update : A $37.4 million budget allocation intended to fund enforcement of vaccine mandates for the next three years. Allocating money doesn’t mean it’s going to get spent, but it does mean that someone in the federal government suspects they’ll be requiring up-to-date vaccine cards to board airliners and trains as late as 2024"
Australian MP: ‘Life For the Unvaccinated Will Be Very Difficult INDEFINITELY’ - "Australian public health chief Dr. Kerry Chant declared that life would NEVER “go back to normal” after COVID regardless of vaccination status. “I want to stress: we will not be ever having to go back to pre-COVID levels,” Chant said. “We’ll always have to be mindful that COVID exists, we’re going to have to engage with booster shots, we’re going to have to engage in advice from time to time when we see outbreaks. We’re going to have to respond. So, it’s not going to go back to normal. We can’t deny that we’re going to have to live with COVID.”"
Apparently living with covid means life can never go back to normal. How far we've come since "14 days to flatten the curve"
Apparently Australia is never going back to normal
Libs of Tik Tok on Twitter - "Guys if you’re under tornado warning, review the CDC guidelines before going to a shelter. There are different guidelines for the vaccinated and unvaccinated. The first step is find a vaccine"
Intensive care beds capacity
Austria and Germany actually have more ICU capacity than the US, and they have a higher vaccination rate than the US. Yet Germany and Austria have more restrictions than the US (I had a look - even California is lighter than them). This suggests one or more of the following:
- Covid restrictions are political theatre and depend on political risk aversion
- The US, where Covid was less controlled, has more natural immunity and so now the population is more resistant to covid. The South African data on omicron is more evidence to support this
Former FDA head Gottlieb joins Pfizer board - The Washington Post - "Scott Gottlieb, the former Food and Drug Administration commissioner who left the agency earlier this year, is joining the board of directors of pharmaceutical giant Pfizer... Critics immediately decried the move as the latest example of the “revolving door” in Washington between federal regulators and the businesses they oversee. “Such moves harm the reputation of the FDA,” said Leigh Turner, a bioethicist at the University of Minnesota, in a tweet. “Today’s news reinforces concerns that there is too cozy a relationship between the FDA and the companies it is supposed to regulate.”... Almost every FDA commissioner in the last 40 years has joined the board of a drug or health-care company at some point after leaving the agency, Walid Gellad, an associate professor of medicine at the University of Pittsburgh, said"
From 2019
Only anti-vaxxers who believe fake news believe that the revolving door and regulatory capture are something to think about for covid (of course, where the left decides otherwise, those absolutely are issues). And this has nothing to do with how Astrazeneca, distributed on a not-for-profit basis, was demonised
Meme - "Don't hate people for being unvaccinated. THEY WERE BORN THAT WAY."
ZUBY: on Twitter - "If Donald Trump had pushed for 'vaccine passports' then 100% of Americans who are currently in favour of them, would be opposed to them. And 100% of Americans who are currently opposed to them, would still be opposed to them. You know this is true.
They would have called him a 'fascist', compared him to Hitler, made Holocaust comparisons, and called it 'The New Jim Crow'. And this time, they would have had a decent point...
A lot of people on 'the left' support these measures now simply because they believe they're sticking it to 'Trump supporters' and 'right wing anti-vaxx conspiracy theorists'. Meanwhile, they're sticking it mainly to Black Americans, immigrants, and all sorts of others.
No one talks about how it was largely anti-Trump folks who were the 'vaccine hesitant' and 'anti vaxxers' just last year, according to their current definitions. 😂 Some people are so embarrassingly partisan and tribal. Incapable of individual thought outside of the 'team'.
If you think what defines a good or bad policy is simply WHO proposes or implements it, then you're not a thinker."
Meme - "Don't keep 'friends' who will turn on you if the TV or government tells them to."
Facebook - "The measure of any society can be found, not only in how it treats its most vulnerable, but how it treats its most despised."
Meme - John Sickels @MinorLeagueBall: "This is crazy. Phase Ill trials cannot possibly be completed by October. I will wear a mask and stay indoors rather than be a Guinea pig for an untested vaccine. The CDC has been corrupted by Trump." John Sickels @MinorLeagueBall: "For the rest of my life, I will never understand how millions of people were conned into not taking a safe, effective, and free vaccine to combat a deadly disease."
MD Who Said He ‘Won’t Cry at Funeral’ For the “Selfish” Unvaxxed Suddenly Dies 2 Weeks After 3rd Jab - "A 52-year-old prominent New Brunswick cardiologist suddenly died in his sleep just two weeks after getting his 3rd Covid jab. Over the summer Dr. Sohrab Lutchmedial attacked “selfish” people who choose not to take the Covid jab. “For those that won’t get the shot for selfish reasons – whatever – I won’t cry at their funeral” Dr. Lutchmedial said in a July 2021 tweet. The doctor — who was remarkably fit, having run over a dozen marathons — unexpectedly died on November 8 – just two weeks after getting his 3rd jab on October 24."
ZUBY: on Twitter - "Millions of people simply don't want to admit that they've been misled and lied to, and they gave up 12-20 months of normal life for no good reason whatsoever. Never underestimate the human desire to fit in, protect one's ego, and rationalise decisions. Coping mechanisms.
No matter how much you explain the scam to some people, they will stubbornly insist they were not scammed and that they made the right decision... In fact, they will get more mad at the person pointing out the scam, than the scammers. They will even defend the scammers.
The goalposts have been moved 100 times. 'Leaders' don't follow their own rules. People are saying and doing things that don't even make basic, logical sense. People are turning on each other and attacking those who are trying to defend their rights. It's a mass psychosis."
ZUBY: on Twitter - "Simultaneously trying to sell the 3rd and 4th shots to people who took the first 2 or 3, whilst trying to sell the 1st one as 'highly effective' to people who have taken zero, is a bold strategy."
Bait and switch is a great way to sneak your agenda by
Expert explains why a combination of Covid-19 vaccines and a mild infection can be so powerful - "an infectious diseases expert said last week that the best protection against Covid-19 comes from getting a mild infection after being vaccinated. Getting both provides better protection against current as well as future variants - compared to just vaccination or infection alone... Vaccines also trigger the development of antibodies. High levels of antibodies can stop an infection. However, the level of antibodies generated following vaccination wanes over time. This happens with all vaccines. Experts say if antibodies against all infections remain high all the time, our blood would be sludge."
Covid hysteria in obsessing about cases is bad, since covid will never go away and by delaying exposure of the population, you ensure that they will be exposed later, when their immunity will have dropped. Combined with obsessing over antibodies means we're doomed to endless booster shots
'Waning immunity' of coronavirus vaccines a misnomer that leads to false understanding: experts - "immunologists say the concept has been largely misunderstood. While antibodies - proteins created after infection or vaccination that help prevent future invasions from the pathogen - do level off over time, experts say that's supposed to happen. And it doesn't mean we're not protected against COVID-19. Jennifer Gommerman, an immunologist with the University of Toronto, said the term “waning immunity” has given people a false understanding of how the immune system works. “Waning has this connotation that something's wrong and there isn't,” she said. “It's very normal for the immune system to mount a response where a ton of antibodies are made and lots of immune cells expand. And for the moment, that kind of takes over. “But it has to contract, otherwise you wouldn't have room for subsequent immune responses.”... Dr. Sumon Chakrabarti, an infectious physician in Mississauga, Ont., said looking solely at the antibody response is misleading, and could be falsely used as justification for an infinite number of boosters. Israel, which has opened third doses for its citizens, recently talked about administering fourth doses in the near future. “This idea of waning immunity is being exploited and it's really concerning to see,” Chakrabarti said. “There's this idea that antibodies mean immunity, and that's true ... but the background level of immunity, the durable T-cell stuff, hasn't been stressed enough.”"
Even if the whole population gets boosted, by the time that gets finished, "waning immunity" means everyone must get boosted again. And since covid hystericists tell us we need to protect those who are unable to get the vaccines at all costs (even while they claim almost no one should get an exemption), and we know the vaccines don't stop infection (let alone transmission), we must lockdown forever.
What does waning immunity mean for the long term? - "At one stage it had been hoped that vaccine-induced immunity might be longer-lasting than infection-acquired immunity (because the waning of infection-acquired immunity occurs through processes the disease induces in the body that the vaccines do not). But studies conducted since mass vaccination has occurred suggest the opposite. It appears to be vaccine-acquired immunity that wanes more rapidly. In some studies, around 50% of inwards transmission protection is estimated to be lost after about six months. Some analysts suggest that may be an over-estimate, as it has proven difficult to control very well for the effects of unconfirmed cases (boosting the immunity of the unvaccinated) and of the takeover by delta during the analysis periods (with delta having higher transmissibility and some vaccine transmission protection escape). But even if it does eventually prove to be an over-estimate the point remains that vaccine-acquired immunity may wane more rapidly than infection-acquired immunity... The policy upshot of all this is fairly straightforward. Boosters for the vulnerable; new therapies as they become available; no need for any restrictions such as mandatory social distancing or masks; encouragement of a modicum of common-sense and courtesy towards others if new waning-induced waves come next spring, but no more; and a ramp-down of testing in schools, isolation requirements for the unvaccinated and remaining rules for travellers."
Ironic. Yet in many places natural immunity expires and in others it doesn't even count. Of course, natural immunity doesn't earn big pharma money, so it cannot be counted
Vaccinating people who have had covid-19: why doesn’t natural immunity count in the US? - "“Many of us were saying let’s use [the vaccine] to save lives, not to vaccinate people already immune,” says Marty Makary, a professor of health policy and management at Johns Hopkins University. Still, the CDC instructed everyone, regardless of previous infection, to get fully vaccinated as soon as they were eligible: natural immunity “varies from person to person” and “experts do not yet know how long someone is protected”... As more US employers, local governments, and educational institutions issue vaccine mandates that make no exception for those who have had covid-19, questions remain about the science and ethics of treating this group of people as equally vulnerable to the virus—or as equally threatening to those vulnerable to covid-19—and to what extent politics has played a role... Gandhi included a list of some 20 references on natural immunity to covid in a long Twitter thread supporting the durability of both vaccine and infection induced immunity. “I stopped adding papers to it in December because it was getting so long,” she tells The BMJ. But the studies kept coming... Real world data have also been supportive. Several studies (in Qatar, England, Israel, and the US) have found infection rates at equally low levels among people who are fully vaccinated and those who have previously had covid-19... Peter Marks, director of the Food and Drug Administration’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, which regulates vaccines, went a step further and stated: “We do know that the immunity after vaccination is better than the immunity after natural infection.”... The laboratory study offered by the FDA “only has to do with very specific antibodies to a very specific region of the virus [the spike],” says Memoli. “Claiming this as data supporting that vaccines are better than natural immunity is shortsighted and demonstrates a lack of understanding of the complexity of immunity to respiratory viruses.”... “The real memory in our immune system resides in the [T and B] cells, not in the antibodies themselves,” says Patrick Whelan, a paediatric rheumatologist at University of California, Los Angeles. He points out that his sickest covid-19 patients in intensive care, including children with multisystem inflammatory syndrome, have “had loads of antibodies ... So the question is, why didn’t they protect them?” Antonio Bertoletti, a professor of infectious disease at Duke-NUS Medical School in Singapore, has conducted research that indicates T cells may be more important than antibodies. Comparing the T cell response in people with symptomatic versus asymptomatic covid-19, Bertoletti’s team found them to be identical, suggesting that the severity of infection does not predict strength of resulting immunity and that people with asymptomatic infections “mount a highly functional virus specific cellular immune response.”... “There’s a very clear message out there that ‘OK, well natural infection does cause immunity but it’s still better to get vaccinated,’ and that message is not based on data,” says Gandhi. “There’s something political going on around that.” Early in the pandemic, the question of natural immunity was on the mind of Ezekiel Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania and senior fellow at the liberal think tank Center for American Progress, who later became a covid adviser to President Biden. He emailed Fauci before dawn on 4 March 2020. Within a few hours, Fauci wrote back: “you would assume that their [sic] would be substantial immunity post infection.” That was before natural immunity started to be promoted by Republic politicians... Another polarising factor may have been the Great Barrington declaration of October 2020, which argued for a less restrictive pandemic strategy that would help build herd immunity through natural infections in people at minimal risk... “If natural immunity is strongly protective, as the evidence to date suggests it is, then vaccinating people who have had covid-19 would seem to offer nothing or very little to benefit, logically leaving only harms—both the harms we already know about as well as those still unknown,” says Christine Stabell Benn, vaccinologist and professor in global health at the University of Southern Denmark... A large study in the UK and another that surveyed people internationally found that people with a history of SARS-CoV-2 infection experienced greater rates of side effects after vaccination. Among 2000 people who completed an online survey after vaccination, those with a history of covid-19 were 56% more likely to experience a severe side effect that required hospital care... Other studies suggest that a two dose regimen may be counterproductive. One found that in people with past infections, the first dose boosted T cells and antibodies but that the second dose seemed to indicate an “exhaustion,” and in some cases even a deletion, of T cells... “When the vaccine was rolled out the goal should have been to focus on people at risk, and that should still be the focus,” says Memoli. Such risk stratification may have complicated logistics, but it would also require more nuanced messaging. “A lot of public health people have this notion that if the public is told that there’s even the slightest bit of uncertainty about a vaccine, then they won’t get it,” he says. For Memoli, this reflects a bygone paternalism. “I always think it’s much better to be very clear and honest about what we do and don’t know, what the risks and benefits are, and allow people to make decisions for themselves.”"
Weird. So many experts claim immune system fatigue isn't a thing. If the results hold up, the more you boost the worse populationcovid immunity will gets (since more and more people will have had a prior infection), which will drive covid hysteria even more
'Natural' immunity isn't enough for a COVID passport. Should it be? - "A study out of Rockefeller University published in Nature , meanwhile, found that memory B cells that can linger for decades and unleash potent antibodies every time the body is re-exposed to SARS-CoV-2 outperformed memory B cells produced by mRNA vaccines. With natural infection, the immune system sees the whole virus, not just the spike protein that’s generated from the vaccines."
Study finds the double-vaxxed who are later infected are better protected against Delta variant
