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Monday, April 15, 2024

Links - 15th April 2024 (2 - Prostitution)

What it's REALLY like to be an escort - "The anonymous woman took to UK parenting forum Mumsnet to explain the details of the sex industry, admitting she charged charged £180 - £200 per hour and managed to saved £30,000 in cash which she used for her wedding... Describing the clients she met through the agency, she said that 'many were in hotels so travelling on business and were pretty clean and decent.' 'Some were possibly drug dearlers - a bit dodgy but wanted girls for the 'image' and booked in groups,' she added. 'A few had saved up for a while for the experience, not many of them.'  Some of her clients were 'quite young' and others were 'pretty old', while some were married and others were single.    'Just so hard to put them all in a category except that they were straight men.' she said... Revealing what prompted her to stop, she said she started a serious relationship with a man who wasn't a client.   'Marriage was on the cards. I was 29. Although I didn't end up marrying him I never went back,' she explained... She admitted that most of the time she wasn't attracted to her clients and she would hate to go back to it now because she wouldn’t be able to hide that she wasn't enjoying it.   She said: 'Yes, all the time. Most of the time I didn't find them attractive. I was working hard to make them feel nice though and feel good about themselves... she wasn't afraid to be 'found out' by someone she knew because she didn't do it in her home town... 'This was in the 2000s. I was one of the agency's girlfriend experience girls. So basically quite vanilla - pretty, nicely spoken and 'innocent' type. But didn't stray into any sub/dom (only once actually and very mildly.)'... When asked about regrets the woman replied: 'Honestly, I don't have regrets because it opened up a life to me of living with more money that I'd ever been used to.  'I'm not sure whether I have long term issues - not really. I still like men, I was always treated nicely and they are quite simple mostly.'"

Meme - Hub @KenHeLive: "I love when women accidentally admit that sex work is not a normal job. Cause I ain't never heard a nigga say "stop watching Junior Seau highlights" even tho playing football led to his death."
amb-state @ambstatee on Kagney Linn Karter's suicide: "I firmly believe once a death like this happens, all p*rn videos of them need to be removed from the internet."

Budget Sex Secret: SGD $9 for intercourse and SGD $4.5 blowjobs in Jodoh - "Jodoh’s reputation as one of Batam’s oldest prostitution areas highlights a long-standing and complex issue, woven deeply into the city’s socio-economic fabric. Unlike swankier, fun spots like Kampong Bule or the regulated Sintai , Jodoh is not known for youthfulness in its sex workers demographic, reflecting a possibly marginalized and overlooked segment of the industry...   “The inner park area’s fees starts at IDR 300,000, while in front of BRI Bank, it’s IDR 150,000. Near the Morning Bakery, the fee is IDR 120,000, and in front of the post office, it ranges from IDR 120,000 to IDR 150,000. It is cheaper at IDR 100,000 near the motorbike wash,” Mawar explained."

Amsterdam Tries to Make Red-Light District Less Touristy - The New York Times - "The new rules introduced this spring set earlier closing times for bars (2 a.m., and no new entry after 1 a.m.), stopped sex workers from working after 3 a.m. instead of 6 a.m. and banned marijuana smoking in the street. But many sex workers say the regulations make them less safe because they have less time to earn enough money to cover the cost of their rooms, pressuring them to accept clients they would otherwise turn down... Efforts to decrease nuisance and criminal activity in the area are not new. In 2019, the city banned tours of the neighborhood. And in March, Amsterdam, capital of the Netherlands, began a campaign aimed at British men ages 18 to 35, telling them to “stay away.” The sale of alcohol is also banned in shops after 4 p.m. from Thursday to Sunday.  “The red-light district has become such a symbol that you’d almost forget that it’s a residential area,” said Femke Halsema, Amsterdam’s mayor. The neighborhood has always been a center for trade, art and small businesses... Ms. Halsema said she wanted the area to remain a livable community and attract more residents. “We have to give back the night to the people who live there,” she said. “Because people really couldn’t sleep because of yelling and screaming.”  While Christa Arens, a red-light district resident who was born and raised in Amsterdam, agreed with that assessment, she said the noise was simply part of the neighborhood, which she described as a small village where everyone knows each other. The rowdiness is part of the character, Ms. Arens said, just like the bars and the sex workers.  “It’s been around for hundreds of years,” she said. “Why move it?”"
From 2023

I (F24) worked as a nude maid for 6 months. Here's what really happens. - "During my last year of university I joined an agency that provides nude maid cleaning services. I found out about this work through a friend of mine who was already working there.  This particular agency was a very professional high end service, employing extremely good looking women and catering to wealthy individuals. The service itself was $300 and hour. The maid kept $100. All the marketing and the business side was taken care of by the agency.  The clients could choose the maid based on photos and videos and pick an outfit for her (for example a cute maid outfit, bdsm leather,latex, just nude, the possibilities were endless).  It was made very clear to them that the girls are not obligated to provide sexual services in any shape or form.  Now, obviously management was not stupid. On my first day they told me that if a client makes advances and offers money for something more than just being a sexy maid, it’s completely up to me. I can decline without fear, but if I decide to make some extra money, it’s my body and I keep all of it. So yeah, it was a very good deal to say the least.  Generally speaking clients were very respectful and a lot of them just wanted to admire a hot woman serving them. For some it was a power play, and others were just lonely or bored men with a lot of money.  Regarding client’s who wanted something more – What happened 90% of the time was they asked if I don’t mind them jerking off and the bravest ones would just start doing it without asking.  Every girl had a different approach/boundaries. I personally always responded like this:”Oh sir, this is your place, don’t mind me, you can do to yourself whatever you want ;)”.  I would say it in a friendly/seductive way and keep cleaning. Not gonna lie, I would do my best to make them even hornier – bending down nice an slow, looking over at them jerking off, biting my lip. Little things like that.  What would happen next was very individual. Some guys would just pay extra for me to watch them cum, and it was not a rare occurrence for them to ask to be verbally humiliated while doing it. Others wanted to watch me masturbate or give them a blowjob.  Surprisingly it did not happen that often when a guy just wanted to have sex. Mostly they would make very specific requests – a lot of the times something to do with being humiliated or doing the opposite and dominating me (for example one guy paid $200 to whip my ass with a butt plug in it and say “Thank you Daddy” on every single strike) .  I think it’s due to the clientele being wealthy men who have already tried everything and vanilla sex just does not cut it anymore.  Overall it was very fun, I enjoyed it a lot. But as I said, most guys actually did not ask for anything extra, but the ones who did were quite interesting – anything from kicking a millionaire in the balls to getting whipped and face fucked by “daddy”."
This was originally on reddit in Feb 2024, but got deleted. But this is dated Nov 2023 and has comments from then

I [F]24 worked as a nude maid for 6 months. Here's what really happens. : gonewildstories - "I met a woman that did this. She echoed your story: clients almost never asked for sexual contact, but would either want to be encouraged or degraded while jerking off.  She had one client that give her a new pair of panties each week that she was to return used the next week. The first order of business would be to remove them, hand them over, and the guy would jerk of smelling them, before finishing in them. She would have to say something like, “Sir, you’ve ruined my panties. Now I won’t have any underwear on the rest of the day.”  He would pay her $100 and then give a new pair.  She did this for a year and made a down payment on a condo."

A Link Between a Prostitute's Age and Her Income - "the author, economist Kitae Sohn, used prostitutes' earnings to address a much broader scientific question, one that applies not only to paid sexual exchanges, but to everyday concerns that many of us obsess about at some point in our lives: What does the opposite sex actually find attractive in a partner?... When asked, most people express a preference to marry someone around their own age. Social scientists used to presume that this is simply another example of the similarity-attraction rule (the idea that I want to marry someone who matches me in as many ways as possible—political beliefs, religion, height, and so on). But when researchers looked more carefully, they found that age preferences raised some interesting exceptions to the similarity rule. Women often marry much older men, for example. Conversely, older men often marry much younger women. And survey data revealed another discrepancy: high school boys said they would be quite interested in college-age women, even though they knew they were very unlikely to attract those older women. So the teenagers' preferences were violating two supposed generalizations: that people generally desire similar others, and that men desire younger partners... Men do not have unrestrained choice in whom they marry or date, but they do get to choose whether or not to pay a prostitute for sex, and the amount they are willing to pay reveals something about what they most prefer. Economists call this "revealed preferences," assuming that the amount we are willing to pay for any commodity gives a good index of how much we value it.   Sohn’s sample was very large, including 8,560 prostitutes from 15 different cities in Indonesia. As Sohn notes, Indonesia provides an ideal place to examine this issue, because prostitution is “quasi-legal,” tacitly supported by the government, which keeps official records on prostitutes’ income alongside incomes from other professions.   When it comes to hiring the short-term services of a prostitute, men pay the most for women between the late teens and early twenties. Between the ages of 25 and 35, the price men are willing to pay for a prostitute drops precipitously. Sohn also examined how a woman's age influenced her income in traditional jobs, and found more or less the opposite pattern... Sohn attributes the typical age-related increase in women’s income to the fact that people usually gain experience and skills with tenure on the job. Although the same may be true for women in the sexual services business, the value of experience appears to be outweighed by age-related decreases in sexual desirability.  As an economist, Sohn provided an exact monetary equation: For each increase of a year in age, a prostitute's hourly wage decreases 4.5 percent."

Keith Woods on X - "Vince McMahon has resigned over the sexual abuse allegations from a former employee.  According to the lawsuit, the woman received lavish gifts from McMahon and was aware her job was fake and that she was there to provide sex.   Despite her apparently being abused, she continued taking working there for years, agreeing to all his requests, only parting ways when Vince decided to end it and pay her hush money. There is a word for this kind of transactional relationship: prostitution. But this woman has now realised she was a victim of sexual assault for all those years.  Vince McMahon is a cultural figure comparable to Walt Disney. He is also an American patriot, one of the greatest Irish-Americans ever, and a great father. It's insane we let men like him be destroyed by women like this. So long, Vince."
Some people claim prostitution is sexual assault anyway, so

'I quit 9-5 to become an escort - men now pay me to lick the dirt off my feet' - "Sex worker Mia Liu has opened up about how she became an escort.  The brunette beauty said she used to work a 9-5 job in banking and finance for a number of years.  However, she things all changed when her last monogamous relationship ended and she decided to "experiment sexually". Mia said she decided to attend a sex party in London, and after becoming increasingly involved in the 'hedonistic' lifestyle promoted at the party and similar, she decided to move in with 'about five other escorts' during the pandemic...   Mia also said a lot of client would get her to dress up as a school girl.  The sex worker also hit back at the claim that those in the industry are forced into acts they don't want to do, as she said she just 'refuses' to do anything she's not into.  When asked if she feels judged for what she does as a living, Mia said she doesn't really face much backlash because she has done other things with her life."

Meme - REDUXX @ReduxxMag: "The Berlin government is offering children a pro-prostitution picture book intended to teach them that the sex trade is safe and enjoyable. "Rosie Needs Money," which is written from the perspective of a little girl, is targeted at children aged 6-12."
Naturally, Snopes nitpicked to rate this "mixture"

I came to Australia with a dream of becoming a cop but was told I'm not allowed to join the force because of my X-rated past. Here's why I'm furious - "A woman who desperately wants to become a police officer to help tackle a crime wave plaguing her community, was turned down because she's a 'loud and proud' sex worker.  Lisa Lewis, an OnlyFans model and escort, moved from New Zealand to Darwin after seeing a TV interview last May with acting Northern Territory police commissioner Michael Murphy... The officer asked if Ms Lewis was currently employed as a sex worker - which is not illegal in either New Zealand or the Northern Territory - and she said she was."
Darwin sex worker's discrimination complaint against NT Police could have 'wide-reaching' effects, advocates say - "Sex workers across Australia are "watching very closely" as the Northern Territory's progressive anti-discrimination laws are tested for the first time by a Darwin-based sex worker, advocates say. It has been nearly a year since the NT parliament passed laws making it the first jurisdiction in the world to explicitly protect sex work and sex workers under anti-discrimination laws.  At the time, it was hailed as a "huge stride" towards equality... While Mish hailed the NT as "the gold standard" for sex worker protections, moves are underway to strengthen similar laws across Australia.   Last year, Victoria passed laws to decriminalise sex work, which included a protection based on occupation.  In Queensland, the Human Rights Commission conducted a review of the government's anti-discrimination laws and recommended "sex work" and "sex worker" be included as explicit protections. "

The lives of pimps: Actor Mark Lee reveals some little-known details of the trade - ""For instance, the pimps really take care of the women under their charge and they even help the women find partners. There are also some women who marry their former customers, start a family and later bring their kids to visit their ex-managers." He added some "managers" would dote on their charges and advise them to stop their work after a period of time to look for a good man to marry.   Interestingly, famous people in Singapore, including celebrities, also visit a particular brothel in Geylang, Lee was told...   "He told me the platforms that the famous customers are on. His customers go to his brothel because it's the only one that has parking spaces at the back door."

Police threaten to charge sex worker who offers discounts to troops - "Military police are threatening to charge a sex worker who offers discounts to Canadian soldiers and senior leaders are warning troops to stay away from the Kingston-area woman.  But such efforts have backfired and sex worker Christina Lea Gilchrist tells this newspaper that she is being inundated with messages from military personnel interested in the services she provides. The selling of sex in Canada is legal but military police allege Gilchrist broke the law with the “unlawful use of military uniforms,” according to police documents. “Upon review of your website, it was noticed that you were not only advertising your services wearing a military uniform which is a controlled piece of clothing, but also displaying other parties engaging in sexual acts while also in uniform,” military police stated in a message sent to Gilchrist on Dec. 18... The internal message noted that “the escort in question has photos posted on their website of (as of yet unidentified) clients in CAF uniforms in compromising positions. Aside from this being a potential offence, it could lead to other more serious consequences and engaging in sexual exploitation clearly goes against our CAF Code of Ethics and Values.” But the internal message provided to all soldiers at the base has resulted in booming business for Gilchrist. Traffic to her website skyrocketed to 10,000 views over a three-day period and she is receiving requests for her services now from soldiers across the country... Prosecution involving individuals wearing military uniforms are rare in Canada and those that have gone forward have focused on individuals who were specifically masquerading as Canadian soldiers... Gilchrist has been a sex worker for around 10 years. “I am a sex worker and I was a sex worker long before I became interested in the military,” she explained in an interview. “I developed a military fetish while living in Kingston and now I really like them.  “I prefer them to be in their uniforms because I am actively a military fetishist,” Gilchrist added. “I love them in their uniform.”"

Women share surprising thoughts on if paying for sex is cheating - "A Japanese content creator revealed a surprising cultural norm in Japan, after asking women if paying for sex workers counts as cheating.  The TikToker, who goes by Takashii From Japan, asked female passers-by the simple question – and the consensus was clear.  ‘It does not [count as cheating],’ said one woman. ‘I don’t care if it’s just for sex.’  Most of the women asked in the video agreed that no, visiting a sex worker does not in fact mean their partner is being unfaithful. For some, the reason was that there would be no feelings involved in the hypothetical encounter.  ‘I’d rather they go to a prostitute than talk to random girls,’ said one woman.   ‘As long as there’s no feelings for the prostitutes,’ agreed another.  Others said the transactional nature of sex work means it’s not cheating.  ‘I told my boyfriend, “go to a prostitute if he wants to cheat”,’ responded one woman. ‘It’s okay if he pays money.’  While another said it doesn’t count as long as there’s ‘decent reason’ for her partner to go. According to her, these included ‘companionship.’ In a slightly confusing exchange Takashii then clarified, ‘Like, with their boss?’ and the woman nodded – implying it would be okay for her partner to pay for a prostitute if it was in the context of a work environment. Other women agreed that they would be upset, but it’s still okay. ‘It’s kind of part of Japanese culture,’ said one respondent. ‘Japan is famous for it’s prostitution.’... In an earlier video, Takashii also put the question to men, whose answers were more mixed."

What It’s Like to Work as an Exotic Dancer - The Atlantic - "A lot of people don't come out for the companionship anymore. They can get it in other ways for much cheaper. Why go to a strip club just to live out the fantasy, when you can pay $100 dollars for somebody to sleep with you for the evening and actually get the fantasy come to you? That's happened a lot more... We don't really get a lot of people who are paying customers anymore. We get a lot of people who are looking for girlfriends... You have to look for the silver lining:  You go on the stage every night and people give me money because you’re pretty. That's kind of cool. I'm not saying that my job isn't hard, because it is. I have to make people feel special every single day, and I have to put aside whatever emotional thing I was going through that day. I think the reward doesn't only come monetarily, the reward comes from the empowerment that is there, and you just have to find it. As a woman, it has made me more empowered and more confident, because I had to be to survive the industry. I didn't have a choice. I could sink; I could fall into the drugs, and be comfortable making  $30 every time I go in. Or, I could step it up and be the life of the party and own that part of myself. I have always identified as a performer anyway, and this is just kind of an extension of that."

Japanese Young Women Relying on “Papa-katsu” to Make Ends Meet - "To make ends meet during the ongoing economic crisis brought on by the global pandemic, there are indications that more and more young women in Japan—particularly college students who are short on cash—are reluctantly resorting to the practice of papa-katsu (パパ活), the Japanese word for “cultivating a sugar daddy.”"

Meme - "Imagine if you invited an escort over and you guys did nothing but argue for an hour and then she leaves and threatens to go fuck her ex bf and tells you how much of a piece of shit you were lol. Then you're just like "ahh yeah now i remember what its like to have a gf, well that was satisfying"
"Ah yes. The girlfriend experience."
"I chortled"

Steve vs. Ninjas on X - "Jesus invited prostitutes to dine with him and he's the light of the world, I do it and I'm "making Thanksgiving awkward.""

Manhattan DA Says His Office To Stop Prosecuting Prostitution - "Manhattan's district attorney announced Wednesday that his office will no longer prosecute prostitution and unlicensed massage under a new policy that's believed to be the first of its kind in New York.  Cyrus Vance Jr. also appeared virtually in Manhattan Criminal Court to request the dismissal of more than 900 such cases dating back to the 1970s... Other jurisdictions in and beyond New York have also taken steps to ease the prosecution of prostitution."

NYPD Cops Cash In on Sex Trade Arrests With Little Evidence, While Black and Brown New Yorkers Pay the Price - "One summer night in 2015, a community college student was driving home through East New York in Brooklyn when two women on a street corner waved for him to stop.  He thought they might need help, so he pulled over and cracked his window. But the pair had something else in mind. “Do you want to have some fun?” he recalled one of them saying. “Whoa, no thank you!” he responded, and drove off, laughing to himself. It was like something he’d seen only on TV. The 21-year-old, who is Black, made it a few blocks before police yanked him out of his car and began to search him. Terrified and unsure of what was happening, he insisted they had the wrong guy. Officers yelled at him to “shut the fuck up.”  The women were undercover police officers. He was under arrest for patronizing a prostitute...   It was one of the New York Police Department’s biggest stings since Mayor Bill de Blasio took office in 2014, the direct outcome of a strategy he and top cops have touted in recent years to combat human trafficking: Officers should arrest “the true criminals” like “johns” and “pimps,” while making sure people forced into prostitution get the help they need to get out.  On the ground, the reality has been different from the rhetoric. Teams of NYPD officers have descended on minority neighborhoods, leaning into car windows and knocking on apartment doors, trying to get men and women to say the magic words: agreeing to exchange sex for money. These arrests are based almost entirely on the word of cops, who say they are incentivized to round up as many “bodies” as they can.   Some of their targets were selling sex to survive; others were minding their own business. Almost everyone arrested for these crimes in the last four years is nonwhite, a ProPublica data analysis shows: 89% of the 1,800 charged with prostitution; 93% of the 3,000 accused of trying to buy sex.   Of the dozens of cops, lawyers and other experts ProPublica interviewed for this story, not a single one believes arrest figures for patronizing a prostitute accurately reflect the racial makeup of those who buy sex in New York City.  “I know for a fact that white men are the key demographic,” said Meredith Dank, a research professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice who, along with her colleagues, has interviewed more than 600 young people who trade sex in the city. In one study, 65% said their main clients are white...   Since 2014, the city has paid more than a million in taxpayer dollars to at least 20 people who claimed they were falsely arrested in prostitution or “john” stings. Last year, it paid $150,000 to five young Latino men who said they were laughing off a proposition when they were arrested and $20,000 to a West African taxi driver who said in a sworn deposition that he was walking home when a woman asked if he’d walk down the block with her. He told ProPublica he thought she was afraid of walking alone, so he agreed. He was then arrested.  The undercover officer in his case netted 10 arrests in three and a half hours the night she encountered him, earning her four hours of overtime pay.  Eighteen current and former officers who policed the sale of sex in New York City said overtime has motivated them for years... Michele Alexander, who is Black, sometimes worked undercover out of a precinct in Jamaica, Queens, before she retired in 2012. “When are we going to Manhattan?” she recalls asking her supervisor, after working too many sex buyer stings where the men all looked the same. “Negroes aren’t the only ones who buy vagina.” As punishment, she said she was reassigned to an early morning tour monitoring a Manhattan subway station...   Sometimes, no money is involved at all. “There has to be an exchange of a benefit,” said former Sgt. Louis Failla. He told the story of an undercover who once “made a deal with a crack prostitute on the street for a hamburger and fries from McDonald’s.” He always found it “humorous,” he said, “what these women would do just to get a few dollars.”   Current and former undercover officers told ProPublica there’s an art to convincing their targets they aren’t cops. Some dirty their fingernails or rub newspaper on their knees to make it look like they’ve been providing oral sex on the street. One said that if a woman insisted he touch her breasts, he would do so, but he would never squeeze... In multiple cases, the defendants said they never agreed to sell sex for money and thought the man with the confident smile and well-kept dreadlocks was courting them for a date... Seventeen women complained to their attorneys of inappropriate touching or worse... None of these allegations were ever aired before a judge. In New York City, prostitution cases are processed in Human Trafficking Intervention Court, which is supposed to help rather than punish people in the sex trade. But it functions a bit like a conveyer belt, where defendants quickly agree to counseling sessions to provide “exit strategies” out of the sex trade. If they complete them and avoid arrest, their charges are dismissed and cases are sealed... Officers have been caught exploiting or protecting the trade about once or twice a decade going back to the 1972 Knapp Commission...   A separate anti-trafficking unit, which had fewer than 10 members, regularly had to turn down leads. With the unit short on personnel, Collado said, even experienced anti-trafficking detectives like himself had to focus mostly on “low-hanging fruit” rather than genuine trafficking networks"
The prosecuting buyers part of the Nordic model sounds fun till you run into racism allegations. Which are of course totally unrelated to white people likely being more likely to choose more discreet sex workers

Meme - "Teacher : Give An Example Of A Business Failure Due To Careless Management?
Me : A Prostitute Getting Pregnant.
Teacher : Leave My Class."

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