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Monday, June 19, 2023

Mom discovers depravity in Trevor Project's trans chat room

Mom discovers depravity in Trevor Project's trans chat room

"“I have been looking for a binder, but I have no clue where to get one? Does anyone know where I could get a reliable binder?” a gender-confused adolescent asked on TrevorSpace, the anonymous online forum for LGBT youth the well-funded and influential Trevor Project hosts.

An adult user replied with a list of brands that sell binders, which are devices worn under the clothes to conceal female breasts, adding, “I really recommend TransTape.”

“If it’s your first time I started with TomboyX compression tops,” another adult wrote.

This is the startling scene Rachel, a Brooklyn mom with a gender-dysphoric child, discovered when she went undercover as a pre-teen in the chat, searching for resources for detransitioners. She found none.

Instead, she opened a “Pandora’s box” of sexually perverse content, aggressive gender-reassignment referrals, adults encouraging minors to hide their transitions from their parents and many troubled kids in need of psychological counseling. She shared screenshots of the chat with National Review.

Rachel says she looked to the Trevor Project in desperation “when I thought my child was going to kill herself.” The organization frequently claims that LGBT youth are more than four times more likely to attempt suicide than their peers. It calls itself a refuge for these people with its crisis services, including TrevorLifeline, TrevorText and TrevorChat.

Under the advice of a “highly credentialed” medical and mental-health team, Rachel and her husband decided to socially transition their child a few years ago, she told National Review.

After that, her child was hospitalized three times for self-harm and suicidality, including at least one suicide attempt. In New York, due to a ban on trans-questioning psychotherapy, so-called gender affirmation was the only legal option they could pursue, she said.

They were at their wit’s end, until her spouse sat her down and presented her with a PowerPoint, showing statistics that people who transition are, by a huge factor, much more likely than the general public to commit suicide.

“My jaw hit the floor. I said, ‘Oh my God, we’ve been lied to,’” she says.

Since then, Rachel, a lifelong Democrat and feminist, has been dedicated to exposing the child gender-transition craze, which she argues is driven by “predatory medicine” the government incentivizes.

In TrevorSpace, she got a bird’s-eye view of the progressive nonprofit giant that is claiming to save young lives but is really driving them further into existential rabbit holes, depravity and potential danger...

When people sign up for TrevorSpace, they have the option of placing themselves within the age ranges of “under 18” or “18-25.” The community is open to people 13-24, according to the site. There is no system in place to confirm a person’s age, Rebecca says and National Review confirmed. She noticed entries from people claiming to be over 25 too, as well as guest accounts with no age listed...

The Trevor Project has subforums on “Transitioning,” “Fashion and beauty,” “Dysphoria” and “Gender queer, non-binary, and gender fluid,” but none on detransitioning or desistance — the common phenomenon of children “growing out of” their transgender identity as they age.

One adult posted a message touting previous invasive medical interventions, noting a willingness to pursue nullification surgery, which involves removing all external genitalia from the abdomen to the groin for the purpose of appearing nonbinary. “I am loving my medical transition now, and have discovered FtN/MtN surgeries that I am now considering. I’m glad I took my time in figuring out what felt best for me,” the user wrote.

Rachel then dove into an abyss of concerning sexual conversation. Some transgender-identifying adults confessed in detail their masturbation addictions and experiences with autogynephilia, the propensity of a male to become sexually aroused by the thought of himself as female, as well as autoandrophilia, the propensity of a female to become sexually aroused by the thought of herself as male.

An adult male wrote, “So I woke up this morning with a huge urge to masturbate, even though I knew I couldn’t, and it would hurt me if I did, I went and did it anyway. And it felt awful, the sensations I felt, the kind of orgasm I had, it was all male, and it just completely shattered my womanhood and served as a cruel reminder of the female sensations I can’t hope to feel because of the male body I was born in.”

In some cases, users under 18 spoke with adult users about their sexual preferences, including BDSM, polyamory and others. Users over 18 asked about paraphilia: “What’s the weirdest sexual thing you know?” 

People responded with “gokkun” — the act of drinking multiple male ejaculations from a container; “bukkake” — the fetish of being covered with ejaculate; “scat play” — deriving sexual gratification from fantasies involving feces; and “forniphilia” — a form of bondage in which a person’s body is incorporated into furniture for sexual acts.

An 18-25 age user posted: “Can I just say they’re all rough doggystyle??” An under-18 user replied, “I’ve heard doggystyle hurts in a good way, but I wouldn’t know. I will say I’m not going to die a virgin. If I have to pull an Evan Hansen and bang a tree, I will.”

Rachel also ran into references to animal kinks, something that professed nonbinary drag queen Sam Britton, a recent Biden administration hire now nuclear waste deputy at the Department of Energy, has dabbled in.

Britton worked at the Trevor Project for four years, first as head of advocacy and government affairs and then vice president of advocacy and government affairs. He has bragged about participating in kink relationships as a “pup handler” — a person, typically a gay man, who enjoys taking care of other typically gay men who pretend to be dogs.

Alix Aharon, an anti-pornography campaigner and creator of Gender Mapper, which tracks gender-clinic locations across the country, was particularly alarmed that the Trevor Project allows contact between kids and adult strangers.

“There should never be a situation in which a young girl is talking to a man. What was most disturbing was their forum and their chat service where you can chat to an adult if you’re a child,” said Aharon, who is on the board of the radical feminist Women’s Liberation Front.

Many messages National Review obtained showed users attempting to connect privately, on apps such as Discord, an instant-messaging social platform.

The Trevor Project did not respond to request for comment."


Naturally, there was a ton of cope and the TRAs were very upset about this article.

One claimed that "the trevor project is a suicide hotline for trans and queer youth" and Matt Walsh was lying (when the Trevor Project itself advertises their forums), but Matt Walsh didn't write the article, nor did he misrepresent it.

When I spoonfed one who claimed the article didn't have evidence of sexually explicit dialogue, he claimed "The article specifically states the ages of the users in that conversation are over 18." when it was precisely the opposite, and claimed Twitter providing sexually explicit material to minors who lie that they're 18 is exactly the same as the Trevor Project providing sexually explicit material to minors who say that they're of age. He then claimed that Matt Walsh pretends that Twitter is safe for minors, but people who endorse Facebook/YouTube/Instagram don't (at least admitting then that the Trevor Project was not safe for minors).

Another just blandly accused Matt Walsh of lying - these people are just primed to claim that everything a conservative says that hurts the liberal agenda is fake, to maintain their ecosystem of fake news and false beliefs.

Two people claimed that it was good because "Teenagers are NOTORIOUSLY curious" and it was better than porn sites and that as a conservative I'd rather "kids feel quiet shame about sex and sexuality and repress it until it does real damage". Apparently nowadays, thinking 13 year olds should not be talking to 24 year olds about sex makes you a conservative.

Three others kept insisting that over- and under-18s were unable to talk to each other and only over-18s could talk about sex (despite the article saying the opposite), and two claimed that because there was no screenshot linked in the post, there was no evidence for that.

Yet, here is a thread from the forum (not in the original exposé) where an over-18 and an under-18 are talking about BDSM. The over-18 even explicit says that there's an "explicit description of a kinky bedroom routine". When confronted with the evidence, one did a bait and switch (of course).

A (18-25): Content warning: explicit description of a kinky bedroom routine

Hey y'all,

I came out as asexual and put it on my online dating profile. It helped me to find an asexual boyfriend who shared my non-desire for intercourse. We shared our BDSM test results and formed a consensual bedroom routine that led me and occasionally him to achieve sex-like euphoria. Sometimes I would even get there without the BDSM aspects.

Common aspects of routine: wearing only gym shorts, hugging, kissing, cuddling, touching, licking, biting, feet, expectoration, melee. Naturally, we could sense each other's dynamic genitalia through our underwear and gym shorts, and hear each other's sighs.

Is this sex?

Our personalities didn't mesh, so I'm back on the market. While I appreciate my right to choose my own label, I want to imply my openness to outercourse without implying openness to intercourse under any circumstance.

B: (Under 18): No it’s not 

 

When I posted the screenshot, someone told me "prove it". Of course, if I'd provided the URL to the thread, I'd have been accused of violating privacy, endangering individuals etc

There was a lot more cope, but no one replied to someone who pointed out that "Regardless of the topic of minors and adults discussing sexual topics, we can all agree the TrevorSpace does not have appropriate moderation. They allow 14 year olds and minors to post "looking for bf/gf" ads and even allow minors to dox themselves posting their phone number"

Addendum:

Here is a 14 year old who says he's "Gay and poly" looking for "a regular or poly relationship" and posting his phone number

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