"Democracy is a process by which the people are free to choose the man who will get the blame." - Laurence J. Peter

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Someone: about the verrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy doubtful christian who wants to get the hardcore christian girl

feel like slapping him

Me: haha
the only folly of man is woman

Someone: i was once sucked in the same way and two years of life were spent in darkness

a bigger folly of man is a very devout christian woman


Me: someone was saying why travelling with women is bad:

1) indecisive
2) complain a lot
3) cannot take physical exertion

Someone else: 3) bad at directions

yeah

Me: 4) shop a lot (I'll add this myself)
directions are ok if you let someone else navigate

Someone else: btw, i like travelling with guys cos
1) they're not indecisive
2) they dun shop alot
3) they are good at navigating
4) they generally "take care" of me
5) they're less calculative and fussy


Me: why should you marry a smarter woman?

Someone: less conflict there
if you're the giving-way type

Me: gah
like that might as well marry a dumber women

less conflict also :P

Someone: i rather have a woman who's smarter rather than dumber honestly
more intellectually stimulating

no point having a dumb woman around
might as well get a blow up doll

Me: then look at it from the female POV
why have a dumb guy

Someone: a warm penis is better than a cold plastic one

Me: ........................

logic that privileges women never gets turned around


Someone else: tt dae *** was just toking to mi how some pple are turned on by shit n all
n she thinks tt maeb cos those are abjects

urine and faeces are the abject
neither object nor subject
because its what once used to be me, but its sth i expel to define myself
inner/outer dichotomy breaks down

i think sicko americans luv such sicko stuffs
like hafing sex w horses n rats etc

Me: haha
why you think it's an american thing

rats?!
can fit ah

Someone else: i think last time got some wat.. hamster or sth
died

duno urban legend or sth

i think it's an.. american thing!

Me: oh! the gerbils!

Someone else: cos in aisan culture.. duno abt japan la.. usu we haf suppressed women.. n if need sex men can just luk for women can settle alr..

but i think those places.. where women got more sae.. maeb.. harder to find victims.. so. uhh. turn to animals

Me: the japanese can be quite sick also lor


Someone: Like God, dogs only see the good in humankind.

Me: eh
shouldn't that be the reverse
see only the bad

that's why you have eternal damnation for sin

Someone: Mmmm?

God doesn't see the bad, if you accept his amnesty deal.

He still loves you whether you accept the deal or not, but a crime still must be punished, otherwise that's not justice.

anyway i came up with this because i was thinking of abused animals
especially dogs

why do they stick with their masters
even though sometimes these masters mistreat them
abuse them
starve them and force them to do horrible things.

Me: it's not justice if you write the draconian ['code']

err
there're mad dogs also

Someone: It is justice, we are born sinful.

Me: so you're being punished for something that isn't your fault

Someone: Of course there are mad dogs, how the heck do you tell if they're mad :)

Are you human?

Me: how do you tell if gods are mad?

Someone: You have to be a God yourself to know if they are.

However, if He was mad, we shouldn't even be able to scratch out a marginal existence in this world

Me: you can apply the same logic to the Fuhrer
(though at least you know the Fuhrer is real)

then again Big Brother wasn't
and Big Brother was omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient

Someone: we would be clad in nothing but our skin and be sucking each other's dicks while attempting to crawl away with vestigal limbs from predators that like to torture their prey and devour it alive.

Me: that sounds like the human condition

Someone: Now that, would be a world of madness.
Sounds like , but isn't.

If you look at it less cynically, have you suffered a stroke yet?

Me: *** has

Someone: have you?

Me: no

Someone: mmmm
then i guess that's something to be thankful for

friend of mine had a pretty serious one :(
hospital ridden now

Me: in that case the abused dog which is tied up and left in the sun should be thankful that its master did not also amputate its limbs, cut out its tongue and put out its eyes

Someone: Ah yes, but if you are referring to the human condition in the metaphor, the dog's abuse is self-afllicted, and it is not tied up, but refuses to accept its master's food and shelter.

and most importantly love.

Me: well
the best description I've seen is:

"It is a counterfeit love that is contingent upon authority punishment or reward.
In a nutshell, God had to kill Himself to appease Himself so that He would not have to roast us, His beloved creations, in HELL forever.
He loves us more than we can ever comprehend, but if we don't return His affections, He will make us regret it for eternity.
Now that is AMAZING GRACE!"

Someone: The description left out the part where the primordial representatives of the human race openly defied God and spat in His face literally by disobeying Him and choosing some fucking fruit over the Garden of Eden and unhindered....ability to talk to Him, everyday....anytime.

That's like describing the justice system without admitting to the crime.

Me: that's like describing justice in Ancient China
condemning all the relatives for one person's fault
and exterminating the whole clan

Someone: That makes sense, doesn't it?
A thief, will always breed thieves.

Me: luckily our modern conceptions of justice have evolved beyond that

Someone: Genetic predisposition does seem to be the reason the ancient chinese based their justice on.
Luckily, or unfortunately.

Me: err

Someone: Should a rapist or pedophile's children be allowed to live, because they are gentically predisposed to rape and or molest little children?

Me: that's
1) if you assume they are genetically predisposed to rape or molest little children
2) if you take the view of genetic determinism

however, even if we cloned Hitler (i.e. 100% DNA the same), there's no guarantee the clone would do the same things

modern justice systems allow for the possibility of parole (most of the time) - even for a criminal who has committed crimes
to say nothing of those predisposed to commit crimes

Someone: -sigh- the american justice system is fucked up
how many more victims occur
[because] they parole these evil people =(

Me: hello
even singapore has parole
even china has parole

Someone: oh dear.

Me: since you're of the "once a criminal, always a criminal" school you might wish to advocate the death penalty for all crimes
since criminals cannot be reformed

Someone: not all.

certain crimes.
drug related people, murderers, pedophiles, rapists.