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Thursday, November 20, 2025

Links - 20th November 2025 (2 - Hating Elon Musk)

Western Lensman on X - "Tonight, CNN launched a wide-ranging, haphazard attack on @elonmusk  for his support of Trump, and his visit to the “quasi-religious” site of Butler, PA.  Not a single mention of Musk mobilizing his companies and resources to aid victims of Hurricane Helene. Not one.  A summary of the attacks, which go on for a whopping four minutes:
- Musk likes Trump’s authoritarianism
- Musk constantly posts fake information
- Musk responds to Trump’s strongman tendencies
- Musk is visiting Butler because it is a quasi-religious site that made Trump “the target he always wanted to be"
- Musk “bought into the emotion” of the Butler assass*nation attempt
- Musk is using the Trump relationship to aid his companies that are under investigation
- Musk turned X into an echo chamber
- Musk posts propaganda on false claims
- Musk wants a job in Trump govt
- Musk seems to have too much time on his hands because he posts a lot of false information
- Musk posts too much to be able to run his companies and get anything else done
There’s throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks, and then there’s whatever this pile of hot garbage is.  Again — not a single mention of the work Musk is doing to aid hurricane victims, while the federal government flails.  Do you really hate legacy media enough?"
Left wingers continue to pretend that Elon Musk is part of the establishment, so he's a clueless hypocrite when he posts about standing up to it

Meme - "Elon explaining he believes in free speech while blocking links to a dossier leak on JD Vance and suspending the journalist who published it(link in comments)"
Tony Pepper Roni: "So if someone doxxes you, they shouldn't be suspended or banned?"
Ironic. The left used to claim that right wingers didn't understand freedom of speech, because that only covered the government, and that private companies could do anything they wanted

Meme - Will Stancil @whstancil.bsky.social: "we should put phrenology Twitter in a gulag. not even joking. no role for these people in society, we should just get rid of them and apologize later"
will stancil @whstancil: "not sure people in politics appreciate the scale of the problem that Elon Musk and MAGA have created. How many Nazis does it take to shoot up a place of worship or a government building? Just one. But stuff like this now easily attracts tens of thousands of supporters."
Of course, the people who want to lock up everyone they disagree with are the good guys

Meme - Noah Smith 🐇🇺🇸🇺🇦🇹🇼 @Noahpinion: "This is so dumb. SpaceX is literally America's only chance to stay ahead of China in space, and these guys are reading X posts???"
Los Angeles Times: "California officials reject more SpaceX rocket launches, with some citing Musk's X posts. SpaceX's plans to launch more rockets from the California coast were rejected by a state commission this week, with some officials citing Elon Musk's political posts on X and raising concerns about the billionaire's labor record at his companies."

Richard Hanania on X - "The California Costal Commission exists to protect the environment. Over the objections of the US military, it just refused a request by SpaceX to increase its number of launches this year, with members of the Commission citing Elon Musk’s tweets about trans issues, his lack of deference to labor unions and political activities.  We’re lucky they were stupid enough to admit this, as it makes for an open and shut First Amendment case. I hope a lawsuit is coming soon."

KanekoaTheGreat on X - "🚨BREAKING: Leaked documents from the Center for Countering Digital Hate reveal their primary goal is to "Kill Musk's Twitter" by targeting advertising and leveraging EU regulations.  The British non-profit organization hosted a private meeting with liberal groups opposing Musk’s free speech platform, including representatives from the Biden White House, Rep. Adam Schiff’s office, the Biden-Harris State Department, and Media Matters for America."

Thread by @thackerpd on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App - "1) EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Working w/ @mtaibbi we report on @CCDHate documents showing the Labour Party's political front's objective is "Kill Musk's Twitter" thru "Advertising focus" meaning harass his advertisers.  See internal documents provided by a whistleblower.
2) Internal Center for Countering Digital Hate document shows their annual objective is "Kill Musk's Twitter"  This is their internal monthly planner. Their goal is to also trigger regulatory action, although they are a tax-exempt nonprofit.
3) CCDH held a private conference w/ a slew of liberal groups organizing against Musk including Biden White House, Congressman Adam Schiff's office, Biden/Harris State Department officials, Canadian MP Peter Julian & Media Matters for America
4) Center for Countering Digital Hate gets a lot of money from Hollywood. Staff say that one of the donors is singer Selena Gomez, a client of Aleen Keshishian"

Elon Musk declares ‘war’ over ‘Kill Twitter’ plan - "Elon Musk has declared “war” on a Labour-linked online campaign group founded by Sir Keir Starmer’s chief of staff.  The billionaire owner of X, formerly Twitter, accused the Centre for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) of violating rules “against foreign interference in elections”. Mr Musk wrote on the social media network: “We are going after CCDH and their donors.” The Tesla owner was responding to a report from the Disinformation Chronicle newsletter, which claimed this week to have uncovered a strategy document from the CCDH which included a plan to “Kill Musk’s Twitter”. The reports allege that the CCDH had been seeking meetings with Democratic senators as it lobbied against Mr Musk’s running of X.  The CCDH was launched by Morgan McSweeney, who was appointed Downing Street’s chief of staff earlier this month after Sue Gray was ousted from the role."

simp 4 satoshi on X - "Nobody understands how the Starship flight approval was a gamble on both sides The govt predicted it would fail, and set Elon back mimetically before the election and thus approved it early The opposite happened."
Dr. Ben Braddock on X - "This government of petty Ayn Rand villains only approved the launch because they thought the booster would blow up on return which the establishment press was prepared to paint as an enormously embarrassing and humiliating failure for Trump’s top guy but instead we witnessed the coolest technological achievement of our lifetimes something that even luddites like myself were spiritually thrilled over and it’s lost on no one that the same guy who made that happen has warned us that everything is doomed if Trump doesn’t win so in closing this was the October surprise and congratulations democrats you got played."

Meme - Peter Yang @petergyang: "“Elon has nothing to do with SpaceX success!!!”   From Walter Isaacson biography:"
"Why don't we try to use the tower to catch it?" he [ELON] asked. He was referring to the tower that holds the rocket on the launchpad. Musk had already come up with the idea of using that tower to stack the rocket; it had a set of arms that could pick up the first-stage booster, place it on the launch mount, then pick up the second-stage spacecraft, and place it atop the booster. Now he was suggesting that these arms could also be used to catch the booster when it returned to Earth. It was a wild idea, and there was a lot of consternation in the room. "If the booster comes back down to the tower and crashes into it, you can't launch the next rocket for a long time," Bill Riley says. "But we agreed to study different ways to do it." A few weeks later, just after Christmas 2020, the team gathered to brainstorm. Most engineers argued against trying to use the tower to catch the booster. The stacking arms were already dangerously complex. After more than an hour of argument, a consensus was forming to stick with the old idea of putting landing legs on the booster. But Stephen Harlow, the vehicle engineering director, kept arguing for the more audacious approach. "We have this tower, so why not try to use it?" After another hour of debate, Musk stepped in. "Harlow, you're on board with this plan," he said. "So why don't you be in charge of it?""
Left wingers like to claim that Elon Musk didn't found Tesla or SpaceX, so he has nothing to do with their success. But they think CEOs don't do anything, so

Mike Benz on X - "The Biden Admin paid Reuters over $300 million in government contracts. 11 different Biden government agencies targeted Elon's businesses. All 11 agencies paid millions to Reuters. Reuters then won the Pulitzer Prize for "their work on Elon Musk and misconduct at his businesses""

Meme - Stephen Pimentel @StephenPiment: "The lawfare against @elonmusk , as gleefully described by the New York Times:"
"companies have been targeted in at least 20 recent investigations or reviews, including over the safety of his Tesla cars and the environmental damage caused by his rockets."
"INVESTIGATION AND OVERSIGHT. Mr. Musk's companies are increasingly facing regulatory battles and overlapping federal investigations from all corners of the government.
"CABINET DEPARTMENTS. Transportation. Justice. Labor. Interior. Agriculture. National Labor Relations Board. Equal Employment Opportunity Comm. Environmental Protection Agency. Securities and Exchange Comm. Federal Communications Comm. Federal Trade Comm."

Fact Check: X Account Of Dropkick Murphys NOT Suspended After 2025 Boston Concert Comments -- Band Said They Quit Twitter in 2022 - "Was the X account of Celtic punk band Dropkick Murphys suspended after they made comments about Elon Musk and MAGA hats during a concert in Boston on St. Patrick's Day, 2025? No, that's not true: The band's founder Ken Casey said they quit Twitter in 2022 after which their handle was taken over by someone pretending to be the band. After a legal complaint the account got suspended at least as far back as June 2024. All of this predated the concert on St. Patrick's Day, 2025.  The claim was implied in a post on Bluesky"

Meme -  Dr. Waitman W. Beorn (waitmanwbeorn.com on 🟦) @waitmanb: "Hi!  Holocaust historian here.  Let me see if I can help.  That wasn't a "weird salute."  It was a Hitler salute.  Because Elon is a fucking Nazi.  Hope that helps!"
Zachary Werrell, Esq. @zkwerrell: "As a holocaust historian, you would know the Sieg Heil is done with the arm facing forward not off to the side, does not start with a hand on the heart, and involves holding the hand out straight, not cockeyed…  But hey, details are irrelevant when you have someone to slander."

Quintus Septimius Florens Tertullianus on X - "Allow me to shed some light on the difference Note that in the actual nazi salute the arm simply rises whereas Musk puts his hand to his heart and throws it to the crowd"

Meme - *Cory Booker Nazi Salute* *Happy Democratic Soyjak*
*Elon Musk Nazi Salute* *Raging, Furious, Upset Democratic Soyjak*
Not to mention Tim Walz's Nazi Salute. The usual cope is that screenshots/stills are misleading, but the videos for both Booker and Walz are very clear. But anyway, Nazi tatoos are nothing if left wingers have them

Matt Van Swol on X - "Here’s a list of all the news networks who have not covered Cory Booker’s salute:
- NYTimes
- CNN
- Washington Post
- MSNBC
- NPR
- USA Today
- Reuters
- Axios
- ABC News
Every single one of them wrote stories on Elon Musk’s “salute”… …do you get it yet?"

Western Lensman on X - "Hello, @NewsHour — will you be making a post comparing Cory Booker’s apparent “fascist salute” to the “Sieg Heil?" Your post about Elon Musk making a very similar gesture amassed over 36M views. Since you assure US taxpayers that PBS is a non-partisan organization, and all."

Collin Rugg on X - "NEW: Tim Walz says he was totally joking when he celebrated Tesla stock going down, says Elon Musk makes him unhealthy. The comment came after Walz apparently didn’t realize his own pension plan owns Tesla stock. “I have to be careful about being a smartass. I was making a joke. These people have no sense of humor.”  This guy is the biggest moron ever nominated as VP. Truly impressive.   Video: @TheGasStovee"
Aesthetica on X - "The modern left is basically four groups of people.
- Boomers who watch cable news all day
- Minorities who get free stuff
- College-educated women who went crazy on SSRIs & birth control
- Mentally ill gender goblins who are on the verge of shooting up an elementary school"

Meme - "Elon Musk rescues Astronauts, helps victims of disaster, saves the environment, and created a neurotransmitter that allows paralyzed people to operate computers with their mind. You applaud punks who draw swastikas on Teslas"

Meme - ""Elon doesn't know how to talk to hot women." -Bill Burr"
*Amber Heard* *Bill Burr with comparatively frumpy wife*

Collin Rugg on X - "NEW: German rocket explodes just 40 seconds after takeoff from a Norwegian spaceport.  German startup Isar Aerospace is seeking to compete with Elon Musk's SpaceX so he can't dominate the skies.  "Europe urgently needs to ensure its sovereignty in space. Elon Musk's Starlink is not without alternatives - nor should it be," whined Germany's BDLI Managing Director Marie-Christine von Hahn.  The rocket lasted just 40 seconds in the air. It was the first attempt at an orbital flight to come from Europe."
The people who mock Elon Musk because his rockets supposedly keep exploding don't care

Insurrection Barbie on X - "Obama gave out 2.4 billion in loans to EV companies, including 465 million dollars to Tesla. While every one of them folded, filed bankruptcy and robbed the taxpayer of the money, Elon Musk paid back the 465 million dollar government loan early, including the 20 million dollar interest payment."

ELON CLIPS on X - "Marc Andreessen: Elon inspires incredible loyalty from his employees because they know he'll just sit all night with them to fix a problem.
“Elon actually delegates almost everything. He's involved in the thing that is the biggest problem right now until that thing is fixed. And then, he doesn't have to be involved in it anymore, he can go focus on the next thing that's the biggest problem for that company right now.   The job number one is to remove that bottleneck and get everything flowing again. I think Elon basically has universalized that concept and he basically looks at every company like it's some sort of conceptual assembly line.   When he identifies the bottleneck, he goes and he talks to the line engineers who understand the technical nature of the bottleneck.   If it's people on a manufacturing line, he's talking to people directly on the line. Or if that's people in a software development group, he's talking to the people actually writing the code.   He's not asking the VP of Engineering to ask the Director of Engineering to ask the manager to ask the individual contributor to write a report that's to be reviewed in three weeks. He doesn't do that. He would throw them all out of the window. There's just no way he would do that.   He goes and personally finds the engineer who actually has the knowledge about the thing, and then he sits in the room with that engineer and fixes the problem with them.   This is why he inspires such incredible loyalty, especially from the technical people who he works with. They're like, wow, if I'm up against a problem I don't know how to solve, freaking Elon Musk is going to show up in his Gulfstream jet, and he's going to sit with me overnight in front of the keyboard or in front of the manufacturing line, and he's going to help me figure this out.”
Interview of @pmarca  by @ChrisWillx  on Youtube, December 14, 2024"
Clearly, he's never invented anything so he's not responsible for his companies' success

ELON CLIPS on X - "Andrej Karpathy on Elon's management style: If you have a big person who is also really smart and has a big hammer, things move quickly.  “He hates meetings. He keeps telling people to skip meetings if they're not useful.  He has a very good intuition for streamlining processes, making everything efficient —the best part is no part— simplifying, focusing, and just removing barriers, moving very quickly, and making big moves.  I do think you need someone in a powerful position with a big hammer like Elon, who's the cheerleader for that idea and ruthlessly pursues it. If no one has a big enough hammer, everything turns into committees, democracy within the company, processes, talking to stakeholders, decision-making, everything just crumbles.  If you have a big person who is also really smart and has a big hammer, things move quickly.”  Lex Fridman Podcast, October 22, 2022"

Western Lensman on X - "They have no clue why they are there, and they have no clue what their signs even mean."
Elon Musk on X - "He had to read the paper he was given to understand the sign he was holding 🤦‍♂️"

Silicon Valley crosswalks hacked to mock Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg - ""You know, they say money can't buy happiness, and... I guess that's true," the crosswalk audio says in one video posted over the weekend on TikTok, Meta-owned Instagram and Musk's social platform X.  "God knows I've tried. But it can buy a Cybertruck and that's pretty sick, right? Right? ... I'm so alone.""
Elon Musk shared it with a laugh but of course everyone Knows he is a sensitive baby who cannot take criticism

stepfanie tyler on X - "i wasn't going to comment on this but i guess since we've let the WSJ behind the curtain i'm allowed to share my opinion.   imagine taking the most sacred thing a person can have—a child, a private relationship, direct access to the most influential man on earth—and liquidating it for clicks, sympathy and headlines.   all while dressing it up as 'speaking your truth'.  this isn't about heartbreak, this isn't about love—this is about leverage and being seen.  if one actually values privacy, they don't do a photoshoot with the New York Post and The Wall Street Journal.   they don't air out private DMs and messages.   they don't bait someone's name for weeks on end and then cry victim when they don't respond how you'd hoped.   you had proximity to legacy and you traded it for attention.  this is not a tragedy—this is a case study in clout-driven collapse"

Airbus CEO says SpaceX could never do what it does in Europe - "Company head Guillaume Faury told attendees at a German aviation event that SpaceX would never have been able to achieve all it has if it were a European company... “It’s amazing and it’s breaking some rules of what we’re doing. It’s very concentrated, where with European projects we are very scattered and distributed.”... In Germany, Faury specifically said that the (legally required) urge to split space work among countries involved in the pan-European venture Ariane makes it harder to build that scale.  “In Europe, we tend to do the...opposite,” he said. “[Airbus makes] 20%, we buy 80%. And by buying 80%, you have a large supply base which is pleasing everybody. Well, Elon Musk’s SpaceX is not pleasing anybody except Elon Musk.”"
QZ editorialising (the Airbus CEO doesn't actually use the term): It is more important to not be "selfish" than to actually be successful. Political patronage is more important than actually going into space

Meme - CNN @CNN: "SpaceX's Starship, the most powerful rocket ever built, briefly takes flight then explodes in midair on first launch attempt"
Nina Turner @ninaturner: "Reminder: Spacex received $3,000,000,000 in taxpayer dollars."
Readers added context they thought people might want to know: "SpaceX has a billion dollar contract for creating a moon lander that will ride on this rocket. It is not a handout, rather a purchase order by NASA. The test launch was not ordered or funded by NASA."
Libertarians: Diligently Plotting @LibertariansDP: "Reminder: Alt-leftists complain about this but when these 1,000+ page bills are presented they screech at the top of their lungs for them to pass for the 1-2 stupid handouts they want. Remember this when the next crony bill comes around."
Apparently the new left wing logic is that when the government buys something from someone, since that is taxpayer money, this is a government subsidy (so they get to make more false comparisons)

Thomas Massie on X - "Some politicians get into politics to enrich themselves. Maybe that’s why they can’t imagine someone would judge a bill based on what’s good for the country instead of what’s good for their wallet. This article from December shows Elon wasn’t “in it” for EV tax credits."
Musk Calls For Ending EV Tax Credit: ‘We Should Get Rid Of All Credits’

Meme - (news) DOGE @DOGE__news: "AOC: "Elon Musk is NOT a scientist, he is NOT an engineer.""
jossmc @jossmc989833787: "Bill Gates is not a doctor  Bill Gates is not an epidemiologist  Bill Gates is not a nutritionist  Bill Gates is not a climatologist  Bill Gates is not, etc.  And yet, he does what he wants and no one stops him."

Meme - "Remember while he tells you what we should do... Bill Gates is not a doctor. is not a biologist. is not a scientist. is not a climatologist. is not a veterinarian. is not a nutritionist. is not a microbiologist. But he is a University dropout"

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