Mary is Exhausted on X - "My daughter had an ectopic pregnancy after the Dobbs decision I Kentucky where we have a ban after 6 weeks. She was 11 weeks when they found it. She was immediately scheduled for surgery. They know they are lying and it's a scare tactic. They are shameless"
Rachel Bitecofer π½π¦ on X - "I’m not dating a guy who would let me die from a routine pregnancy complication, and neither should you."
Wilfred Reilly on X - "The thing about moral appeals from the left is that none of them are...real. Leaving aside the fact that any normally aggressive guy would just get HIS doctor's network involved in this case, or drive 56 miles across a state line...abortion is not illegal in her state. And, miscarriage care is not illegal anywhere. Total number of deaths even plausibly linked to the legal change is like 4. It's all made up."
Mankosmash on X - "Feminists talk like pregnancy is Russian roulette. π It's 0.022% and only 1/3 of that is actually childbirth. The rest is within 42 days of it. And it's lower for white women - who screech about it."
The White House on X - "In states where abortion is restricted, doctors live in fear of being thrown in jail for simply doing their job. Dr. Zahedi-Spung shares her story as we call on Congress to protect reproductive freedom for the people of America."
Emily Zanotti π¦ on X - "I had a ruptured ectopic pregnancy in the state of Tennessee one month ago. At no time was I refused care and at no time was anyone restricted from saving my life, even though my baby did die. This is misinformation that could prevent women from seeking help."
Terrifying women and possibly leading some to die is chump change in the context of the bigger mission
Misleading Statements About “Life of the Mother” Exceptions in Pro-life Laws Require Correction - "Misleading statements in a recent Obstetrics & Gynecology article require correction. No state has an abortion law that is a total ban on abortion. Every state law permits abortion when necessary to save a mother’s life. Texas law does not require an “imminent” risk and allows a doctor to use his “reasonable medical judgment” to determine if an abortion is necessary to prevent a “risk” of maternal death. Similarly, Idaho allows a doctor to use his “good faith medical judgment” to determine when to intervene, without need for “immediacy”."
The pro-choice cope is that with any restrictions at all, doctors will be scared of performing abortions, therefore we can't have any restrictions on abortion. By that logic, we can never regulate medicine in any form
Are Pro-Life Laws Leading to Preventable Deaths? - "As the reporter presents it, Thurman’s death was the inevitable result of a Georgia state law that protects unborn life after the sixth week of pregnancy. But nothing could be further from the truth. As written, the law does not deny any care to pregnant women who are facing a medical emergency, a “spontaneous abortion” (a miscarriage), or a stillbirth... there are no states whose laws deny health care to pregnant women or criminally charge them for abortion. In a recent Congressional hearing, Senator James Lankford interviewed lawyer Heather G. Hacker to clear up any confusion about states’ laws on abortion. Here’s a clip from the hearing:
Lankford: Ms. Hacker, just to clarify on this, are there any states where women face prosecution for having an abortion?
Hacker: No.
Lankford: Are there any states that criminalize miscarriage?
Hacker: No.
Lankford: Or the care for any for a miscarriage?
Hacker: No.
Lankford: Are there any states that criminalize removing an ectopic pregnancy?
Hacker: No.
Lankford: Are there any states that prohibit lifesaving care for the mother?
Hacker: No.
Lankford: Are there any states where women have to be actively dying for a doctor to be able to act for her care?
Hacker: No.
The problem isn’t pro-life laws. The problem is poor medical care and misinformation. According to the Georgia state committee that reviewed Thurman’s case, the hospital responsible for Thurman’s care had a “lack of policies/procedures in place to evacuate the uterus immediately.” The author even admits that, based on the medical documents, it was not clear why doctors delayed providing care. A recent AP News piece found that even in states where abortion is permitted, pregnant women have experienced otherwise preventable loss. Hospitals scrutinized here were understaffed, ill-equipped, and often operating with undertrained support teams. A bigger part of the problem is simply the intrinsic dangers of chemical abortion. Contrary to what the Thurman piece claims, the abortion pill is far from safe. Research has found that “one in five women experienced an adverse event following a chemical abortion, and rates of complication were four times higher in chemical abortions compared to surgical abortions.” In fact, the FDA’s own label warns that one in 25 women who take abortion drugs will end up in the emergency room."
Misinformation is good when it helps the left wing agenda
Allie Beth Stuckey on X - "I know many, many women who have received quick and compassionate miscarriage care in red states over the past two years. I also know women who have not received the miscarriage care they needed in states like California. The problem is clearly that we have a huge competency crisis among doctors and hospitals, not pro-life laws. Left-wing media is highlighting malpractice in red states to try to make it seem like abortion restrictions are killing women. They’re not. Many of these stories—like the recent one in Texas—don’t even have to do with abortion or miscarriage at all. Just a pregnant woman who didn’t get the IV antibiotics she needed. Other stories exclude or bury relevant details. No state law prohibits miscarriage care—including a D&C for a miscarriage—in any way. Every pro-life law defines abortion as the purposeful termination of the life of an unborn child. Every pro-life law has an exception for ectopic pregnancy and to save the life of the mother. If women are dying, the doctors and medical staff responsible need to be held to account. Babies shouldn’t be robbed of their legal right to life because of their negligence. Don’t vote for Kamala based on lies"
Every State With an Abortion Ban Allows Treatment for Miscarriage and Ectopic Pregnancies - "In the 23 states with one or more strong abortion bans that were unenforceable before the decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, state officials are now either enforcing a ban or are working towards beginning enforcement. Each of these states permits abortion in those rare and heartbreaking circumstances when it is necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman. Physicians can make this determination based on their “reasonable medical judgment,” a standard very common in the medical profession and used for any case involving medical malpractice litigation. Physicians are trained to use their best judgment to care for patients; however, it would be prudent for state medical boards, state medical societies, state boards of pharmacy, hospital quality committees, and hospital attorneys to provide more detailed guidance to doctors on how to reach a determination that abortion is necessary. Tragically, this type of guidance appears slow in coming. Meanwhile, abortion advocates are spreading the dangerous lie that life-saving care is not or may not be permitted in these states, leading to provider confusion and poor outcomes for women."
Left wing misinformation is nothing new, sadly
Meme - Nicholas Kristof @NickKristof: "A struggling Nevada mom suffers a miscarriage. Then the police show up and arrest her for manslaughter, and she's sentenced to 2.5-8 years in prison. Only when a pro bono lawyer steps up and appeals does a judge reverse the conviction and set her free to return to her children. This is family values? Think about that as you vote."
Readers added context they thought people might want to know: "1. She smoked Meth while pregnant; (two crimes.)
2. Her baby was well past viability; autopsy said 28-32 weeks.
3. She admitted she did it to kill her baby.
4. Law enforcement believes that the baby was born alive and then killed.
5. THIS WAS IN 2018 before Roe was overturned"
Pro-abortion people keep bringing up infanticide cases to support unlimited abortion. It's really telling
Nevaeh Crain Died During a Miscarriage After Trying to Get Care in Texas Hospitals (aka "A Pregnant Teenager Died After Trying to Get Care in Three Visits to Texas Emergency Rooms") - "The first hospital diagnosed her with strep throat without investigating her sharp abdominal cramps. At the second, she screened positive for sepsis, a life-threatening and fast-moving reaction to an infection, medical records show. But doctors said her six-month fetus had a heartbeat and that Crain was fine to leave. Now on Crain’s third hospital visit, an obstetrician insisted on two ultrasounds to “confirm fetal demise,” a nurse wrote, before moving her to intensive care... ProPublica condensed more than 800 pages of Crain’s medical records into a four-page timeline in consultation with two maternal-fetal medicine specialists; reporters reviewed it with nine doctors, including researchers at prestigious universities, OB-GYNs who regularly handle miscarriages, and experts in emergency medicine and maternal health. Some said the first ER missed warning signs of infection that deserved attention. All said that the doctor at the second hospital should never have sent Crain home when her signs of sepsis hadn’t improved. And when she returned for the third time, all said there was no medical reason to make her wait for two ultrasounds before taking aggressive action to save her... While they were not certain from looking at the records provided that Crain’s death could have been prevented, they said it may have been possible to save both the teenager and her fetus if she had been admitted earlier for close monitoring and continuous treatment. There was a chance Crain could have remained pregnant, they said. If she had needed an early delivery, the hospital was well-equipped to care for a baby on the edge of viability."
This is clickbait as usual, but of course left wingers fell for it
Thread by @lymanstoneky on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App - "It's clear that @propublica 's strategy is to spam stories of alleged deaths due to abortion bans, and never actually engage with any of the arguments about how they're actually running a cover operation for medical negligence. From the latest one. They want to blame Texas' abortion ban for a hospital sending away an actively miscarrying women WHO ALREADY TESTED POSITIVE FOR SEPSIS.
everybody agrees this was a case of the hospital failing to provide basic, obvious standard of care. nobody has evidence this failure was caused by the abortion law. and yet you get quotes like this: it's just insane. on what planet can this death be linked to Dobbs? this is clearly just a hospital killing a teenager through the usual tragic negligence. at this point @propublica is literally defending a repeatedly-negligent OB who has failed to treat maternal infections and been censured for it in the past. "it's not just bad doctors!" @propublica continues to assert until slowly shrinking into a corncob. folks among the millions of women who become pregnant every year in America there will always be cases of horrible negligence, terrible standards of care, and awful outcomes. this is a tragedy-- but none of these cases is clearly linkable to the actual law! she wasn't even denied an abortion! she hadn't even requested one! this case is a horrible tragedy, but it's all right there people: it's the usual gross medical malpractice tragedy, not related to abortion at all."
Lyman Stone η³δΎζ° π¦¬π¦¬π¦¬ on X - "Oh hey look the Texas hospital with the sepsis death blamed on Dobbs, where one of the involved doctors had a prior malpractice case? Turns out the hospital had ANOTHER malpractice case in 2020... for ignoring sepsis! Almost like it maybe wasn't Dobbs, eh?"
Dr. Calum Miller on X - "Malta has far stricter laws than the US and has had no maternal deaths in 12 years. The reason America can’t figure this out is because it doesn’t want to. Dead women are the best possible political tool for the abortion industry."
Or there're just a lot of incompetent American doctors
Literally Chad on X - "Keep in mind miscarriage care is unambiguously legal and doctors are murdering patients to own the cons"
Meme - "THE SUPREME COURT DID SOMETHING WE DON'T UNDERSTAND. LET'S GET OUR KETCHUP BOTTLE COSTUMES ON AND PRETEND FICTION IS REALITY AND SCARE OURSELVES"
Meme - RAMZPAUL: "For young men, the most important issue is to be able to get a job to support a family. For young women, the most important issue is to be able to kill their baby."
"TOP ISSUES FOR YOUNG VOTERS. ECONOMY DEMOCRACY IMMIGRATION INFLATION *men care more*
ABORTION ANTI-RIGHT-WING IDEOLOGY *women care more*"
Meme - Yerba Mate Girl: "I don't care about the economy, crime, immigration or foreign policy. I just want to be able to kill my kids!"
Meme - "When you have the right to vote, work, study, drive, free association, free speech, free movement and literally every single right except for infanticide *Handmaid's Tale protest*"
Meme - Ralph Wiggum: "I'M A HANDMAID'S TALE"
Meme - Crying Doge Handmaid: "I CAN KILL MY CHILDREN IN ONLY 47 STATES. THIS IS LITERALLY LIKE THE TV SHOW "THE HANDHOE'S TALE""
Meme - "I don't understand, Pete. You're so right wing; so how can you be pro-choice?"
"Simple, I looked up which race has the most abortions."
Meme - *Tuxedo Winnie the Pooh*
"Abortion
Fetus Deletus
*Chemical symbols* HAsTa La VISTa BaBY"
Meme - Magills @magills_: ""Yeah, WW3 sounds bad but not as bad as losing access to abortion. Still With Her.""
Meme - Woman sitting in burning room: "yeah but abortion..."
Meme - allyah: "I'm pregnant! having a scan soon to find out if it's a girl or an abortion
I don't have the stomach to read all these negative comments. Here's your update. Some people have convinced me to look into raising my child as a girl even if it is a boy, and trying to get treatment as early as seven years old. I've been reading a lot about that."
Meme - Wilfred Reilly @wil_da_beast630: "Technically speaking, didn't this woman have a baby, "potentially" break its neck, and then leave it in a toilet to die? You don't hate journalists enough, etc, etc."
Camry @theliamnissan: "This is only the beginning folks"
"Woman Charged with Murder After Losing Her Pregnancy. A South Carolina woman had a miscarriage and was charged with murder, a direct consequence of the Republican abortion ban in the state, CNN reports."
FACT CHECK: Are pro-life laws to blame for arrest of SC woman who delivered baby in a toilet? - "CNN is sharing the story of a woman who faced charges following the death of her newborn baby in March of 2023 in South Carolina. This week, a grand jury in Orangeburg, South Carolina, declined to indict Amari Marsh on murder charges. Questions remain about the case; however, the media is attempting to place blame for Marsh’s arrest on the state’s pro-life laws — which weren’t in effect at the time... Amari Marsh, 21, was arrested and charged with homicide in March of 2023 after she gave birth on a toilet at home after leaving a hospital hours earlier of her own accord, without being discharged by medical personnel, according to an article from the Times-Democrat published at the time of Marsh’s arrest. The article says she left because “the energy in the room was off and she felt uncomfortable.” She went into labor at 3 am the next morning in her bathroom, and called 911 shortly thereafter. When EMS arrived, the baby was in the toilet, covered with used toilet tissue... Following a three-month long investigation, Marsh was arrested on June 2, 2023. According to KFF Health News and CNN, the arrest warrant noted that not removing the baby girl from the toilet despite the dispatcher’s instructions was “a proximate cause of her daughter’s death” — the primary cause... It wasn’t until a few weeks after Marsh gave birth that the state again passed the ‘heartbeat law,’ which still stands today. Notably, the law does not allow women to be prosecuted for obtaining an abortion, even after six weeks. Yet Dana Sussman, senior vice president of the nonprofit Pregnancy Justice, claimed Marsh’s case is a “prime example of how pregnancy loss can become a criminal investigation very quickly.” She added, “The Dobbs decision unleashed and empowered prosecutors to look at pregnant people as a suspect class and at pregnancy loss as a suspicious event.” Likewise, U.S. Rep. James Clyburn, claimed Marsh’s case is an example of how pregnancy loss is being criminalized following the overturning of Roe v. Wade in June 2022. But the terminology used here by pro-abortion groups and politicians is dishonest and inaccurate, because Marsh did not experience a “pregnancy loss” and abortion was not prohibited in South Carolina at the time. She gave birth to a premature, but living, baby, likely at or after five months, according to the timeline. The investigation found that the baby died as a result of being left in the toilet and from respiratory complications due to preterm birth. In fact, Solicitor David Pascoe, a Democrat elected to South Carolina’s 1st Judicial Circuit, and whose office handled Marsh’s prosecution, said abortion laws were not relevant in Marsh’s case. “It had nothing to do with that,” he said."
Weird. We're kept being told pro-choicers don't support infanticide
She was accused of murder after losing her pregnancy. SC woman now tells her story - "According to the sheriff’s department report, hospital staffers told Marsh that she was pregnant and that a fetal heartbeat could be detected. Freaked out and confused, she chose to leave the hospital a second time, she said, and her pain had subsided. In the middle of the night, she said, the pain started again. She woke up, she recalled, feeling an intense urge to use the bathroom. “And when I did, the child came,” she said. “I screamed because I was scared, because I didn’t know what was going on.” "
chas_swim_mom on X - "Either she was extremely stupid or a liar, or both."
Walz's False Project 2025 Pregnancy Monitoring Claims - FactCheck.org - "Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Walz falsely claimed that Project 2025 calls for the tracking of “all pregnancies” and would require people “to register with a new federal agency” upon getting pregnant. The conservative playbook advocates the reporting of all miscarriages and abortions but does not stipulate the monitoring of all pregnancies... Walz’s inaccurate claims come after a series of similar statements by Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic presidential nominee, over the summer. At the Democratic National Convention, on Aug. 22, Harris said Trump “plans to create a national anti-abortion coordinator and force states to report on women’s miscarriages and abortions.” As we wrote at the time, Trump hasn’t proposed that, but some of it matches what’s in Project 2025. Days later, on X, she went further, falsely saying that “Trump’s Project 2025” included “monitoring pregnancies and prosecuting women if they have an abortion.”... The Project 2025 spokesperson directed us to a Sept. 10 X post by Roger Severino, a Heritage Foundation vice president who authored the relevant section on abortion and who led the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office for Civil Rights under Trump. Claims that Project 2025 “would establish a ‘national abortion monitor’” are “[f]alse,” Severino said in the post. The plan “merely recommends CDC restore the decades-long practice of compiling *anonymous* abortion statistics for all states,” he wrote, adding that the Harris-Walz campaign claims were “hypocritical” and “misleading” since Minnesota already collects such data... Isaac Maddow-Zimet, a data scientist with the Guttmacher Institute, told us abortion reporting should remain voluntary. Even though having data on abortion is important, the reporting has often been used with political reasons, according to the Guttmacher Institute’s research. For example, asking for the patient’s reason for a procedure, as Project 2025 suggests, can provide data that could be useful to push certain agendas... “A common anti-abortion tactic is to claim that most abortions are not for health-related reasons but for personal preference or even convenience, and therefore do not constitute necessary health care,” he told us"
Weird. Why don't left wingers want more data to be collected? Like the popular meme which claims that all the reasons women have abortions are none of your business
Ironically, the Guttmacher Institute itself says most abortions are not for health-related reasons
Lawsuit: Doctors to blame for Amber Thurman's death - "High-profile civil rights and personal injury attorney Ben Crump held a news conference accusing doctors at Piedmont Henry Hospital in Stockbridge, Georgia, of not acting quickly enough to save Amber Thurman’s life in 2022. According to Thurman’s family and a report last month by ProPublica, Thurman — a 28-year-old mother of one — was experiencing a rare complication from abortion pills that did not expel all of the fetal tissue from her body. She visited a hospital in need of a routine procedure called a dilation and curettage, or D&C, but doctors allegedly waited nearly a full day before operating. Thurman died in surgery... Crump blamed doctors, not the law, for Thurman’s death. “Even under Georgia law, the doctors had a duty to act to save Amber,” he said. “She had taken the abortion pills and there were tissues left. There was no viable fetus or anything that would have prevented them from saving her life while she suffered. “You have a duty to stabilize her and then give her the option to go to another hospital facility,” Crump said. “But you cannot let her suffer and die on your hospital bed when the death is preventable.”... Thurman’s family said doctors kept them in the dark about her condition as they waited at the hospital. Her mother, Shanette Williams, said she would have sought medical care elsewhere if she had known doctors were waiting to perform a D&C."
Oops. So much for that claim. But I guess her lawyer is a right wing fundamentalist who hates women
