U.K. walks away from trade talks with Canada - "British negotiators walked away from trade talks with Canada Thursday — a dramatic development that taps the brakes on a bilateral trade deal between the two Commonwealth nations that has been years in the making. A major sticking point between the two sides remains how much tariff-free access U.K. producers should have to the Canadian cheese market... In the aftermath of the renegotiation of the former North American Free Trade Agreement, which saw changes to supply-managed sectors, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau promised dairy farmers that no more slices of Canada's domestic market would be served up to exporters in future negotiations."
From 2024. Time to blame the British Tories
Ontario Dairy Farmer FORCED to dump 30,000 litres of milk because he went over quota according to the Dairy Cartel. : r/Ontario_Sub - "Supply management prevents the taxpayer from subsidizing the dairy industry, while keeping prices stable. Look at the US if you want to see what happens when you take supply management out."
Left wingers don't understand that taxpayers paying more for a product is a subsidy
Ontario Dairy Farmer FORCED to dump 30,000 litres of milk because he went over quota according to the Dairy Cartel : r/CanadianConservative - " Again. Supply Management does NOT control food quality. It controls the amount that can be produced. Supply management actually prevents NEW farms that want to produce more organic/natural"
People hate the US so much they don't realise you can regulate what is allowed without tariffs/bans on imports
Ontario Dairy Farmer FORCED to dump 30,000 litres of milk because he went over quota according to the Dairy Cartel : r/CanadianConservative - "Less than 10% of US milk comes from cows treated with BST. Every gallon of milk you can find (even cheap store brands) specifically says that it comes from cows not treated with rBST. Regardless, you can regulate the quality of milk without artificially restricting the supply."
Ontario Dairy Farmer FORCED to dump 30,000 litres of milk because he went over quota according to the Dairy Cartel : r/CanadianConservative - "Or you know, we can export our milk and dairy products which our cartel always says is superior to the American stuff."
"Milk expires. Only way processors are going to process the overproduced raw milk is when it’s sold to them at a loss to the farmer and then they still take a chance on having it sold in time. not sustainable for long in my opinion."
"Firstly milk can make it to the States in very reasonable time, this is not a large distance considering most of the population is close to the border. It only takes a couple of hours depending on the location, we are not talking about anything more than a day and that is generous. Secondly the vast majority of exports would likely be other dairy products like cheese, butter, yogurt etc. things that have longer shelf lives. This is a far better alternative than just throwing surplus milk away."
The same people who claim US products need to be banned because of poor quality and health problems (even though growth hormones can be found in Canadian beef) have no faith that US consumers want the protected goods
“Eggs Are Still Affordable in Canada. Thank Supply Management” : r/WildRoseCountry - "By affordable, we mean the most expensive in the world:
https://www.policyschool.ca/canada-tops-world-rankings-milk-prices/
https://secondstreet.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Policy-Brief-%E2%80%93-Supply-Management-Final.pdf"
I saw a left winger lie about milk being cheaper in Canada than in New Zealand, and that it was thanks to supply management
Bruce on X - "In Canada we can get marijuana from stores and crack pipes from vending machines. Sell eggs and you get SWAT teams sent to your door."
Small-scale Alberta egg farmer arrested for selling eggs outside quota systems
Time to hate on US eggs again and pretend that supply management doesn't raise costs and it's all the fault of "greedy" grocery chains
Canada’s dairy farms dump 7 per cent of all milk produced, study contends - The Globe and Mail - "In a paper recently published in the Ecological Economics journal, the authors teamed up to calculate how much milk dairy farmers dispose of. They determined that more than 6.8 billion litres of raw milk – and possibly as much as 10 billion litres – disappeared from Canadian farms between 2012 and 2021, worth at least $6.7-billion. “If you’re wasting 7 per cent of the milk you produce, well, logically, you can only come to the conclusion that milk is too expensive in Canada,” Sylvain Charlebois, a Dalhousie University professor and one of the study’s authors, said in an interview... The dumped milk results in excess greenhouse gas emissions equivalent to 350,000 passenger vehicles annually, and needlessly pollutes soil, air and water, according to the paper, published last month. To grow feed for the cows and care for them, between 920 and 1,900 square kilometres of farmland are required, and huge volumes of water. Prof. Charlebois said the paper’s authors, who include professors Thomas Elliot from Denmark’s Aalborg University and Benjamin Goldstein from the University of Michigan, assembled last year after an Ontario dairy farmer filmed himself dumping 30,000 litres of milk, which went viral after he published it. They met in Montreal to discuss how to determine the extent of the waste, which they said had never before been revealed by the industry or government... “Boards will call farmers at the end of the month and say there’s a surplus because there’s too much production in the system, or demand has shifted,” Prof. Charlebois explained. “And so they’ll ask a bunch of farmers to dump. It’s a common practice.” A Senate committee is considering a private member’s bill, known as C-282, which would grant significant new protections to the dairy industry. Passed by the House of Commons in June, 2023, it would prohibit the federal government from granting greater foreign access to Canada’s supply managed agriculture sectors, including dairy, eggs and poultry."
Tasha Kheiriddin: Carney will have no choice but to kill supply management - "the system that protects Canadian dairy, poultry and egg industries from foreign competition through quotas and tariffs, including Trump’s favourite bugaboo, a 200-plus per cent markup on U.S. dairy products... In our country, unfortunately, it has become a hill on which political careers go to die. Case in point: People’s Party Leader Maxime Bernier, whose ambition to lead the Conservative party in 2017 was thwarted by the Quebec dairy lobby after he promised to ditch the policy. And the sacred cow lives on: in June, the House of Commons and Senate passed a Bloc Québécois bill with all-party support to prevent bargaining supply management away. Carney knows that he owes his recent election victory in large part to Quebec voters — and with a minority, needs the support of opposition parties like the Bloc to stay in power. But if Canada wants a serious trade deal with a Trump White House, supply management will have to go. Not just for the sake of negotiations, but because it’s a cartel policy that has had its day. The economic case against supply management is straightforward. A study by the Montreal Economic Institute estimates that by limiting Canadian production, the average family pays hundreds more annually for milk, cheese and eggs, compared to countries without such a quota system. The MacDonald Laurier Institute found that these inflated prices protect a tiny number of producers, mostly large, established farms with valuable quotas, at the expense of millions of Canadians and would-be producers who can’t afford to break into the market. It’s the worst kind of protectionism: one that punishes the poor, rewards the entrenched and chokes competition. Carney faces the same dilemma as Bernier, in reverse: will he let trade dreams die on this hill? Will he jeopardize our steel, aluminum and auto sectors, as well as deals for critical minerals, for a policy that makes it harder for Canadian families to afford milk for their kids?"
The same people who denounce Trump's tariffs love supply management, because they hate the US and want to ban their products
Quebec's dairy farmers are blocking free trade in Canada - "In Canada, small, inefficient Quebec-based dairy operations are the primary beneficiaries of the antiquated mid-20th-century supply management strategy that remains in force north of the border. This system once served an economic purpose. In the 1960s and 1970s, agricultural supply chains differed greatly from today. A lack of international trade rules and frequent use of tariffs significantly and adversely impacted the agricultural industry. At this time, governments around the world legislated to control production, seeking to stabilize domestic prices and farm income for some agricultural sectors—specifically the production of dairy, egg, and poultry products. Over the past 50 years, supply chains have become more efficient and resilient, enabling countries to scale back or even eliminate these practices. Canada, however, has consistently failed to remove these mechanisms. For political reasons, everyone else is paying the price—and it’s costly. When governments control production levels, they create incredible industry inefficiencies. Supply-managed sectors provide clear evidence of this. For example, an estimated $11 billion worth of raw milk was simply dumped onto the ground and wasted in Canada between 2012 and 2024 in order to avoid exceeding production quotas. There are just over 4,200 dairy operations in Quebec out of 9,400 nationally. The objectives of supply management focus on protecting these 4,200 operations at the cost of the other 190,000 Canadian farmers, as well as Canada’s 40 million citizens... The American dairy sector shows there’s a different path that Canada could follow. Dairy production efficiency in the United States has resulted in Idaho and Wisconsin being the second- and third-largest milk-producing states. Supply chain logistics allow for the transportation of dairy products to reach markets across the U.S. In Canada, market concentration would likely shift to more efficient producers in the western provinces if supply management were to end. Not only would this contribute to lower dairy prices for all Canadian consumers, but it would also make a difference for Canada on the world stage by boosting the country’s position in international trade negotiations. As long as the system remains in place, it will be an irritant. In all of its trade negotiations over the past decade, Canada has been required to grant concessions and allow greater volumes of tariff-free imports. In 2015, when negotiating the Trans-Pacific Partnership, Canada was forced to make concessions on dairy products worth 3.25 percent. It made further concessions during the 2016 negotiating process of its free trade deal with Europe, and again in the negotiations leading to the 2020 Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement (CUSMA). As concessions were made, Ottawa provided billions to domestic dairy producers to compensate them for increased competition, further supporting the sector’s inefficiencies... This unwillingness to drop the outdated system leaves Canada at significant risk of never negotiating another international trade agreement due to its adherence to preserving supply management. Yet, the domestic politics that preserve the system persist."
Although dairy operations in Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba are more than twice as large as those in Quebec, the government restricts milk production in the three western provinces to 16% of total domestic production, whereas Quebec accounts for 37%. : r/CanadianConservative - ""Supply management" never had anything to do with small dairy farms and everything to do with quebec dairy farms. It forced all the small dairy farms in the prairies out of business. Same as the wheat board, same as apparently egg sales, etc, etc, etc. Just the east(meaning que and ont) screwing over the prairies to their benefit. Like always since even before confederation."
Data deficits and transparency: What led to Canada's ‘buttergate’ - "During the fall of 2020, consumers began to question the consistency of Canadian butter. Many consumers expressed their dissatisfaction on social media the following winter. For months, Canadian dairy industry stakeholders debated the on-farm practices and processing of dairy products on social media. International media amplified the concerns of consumers. Though a long-held practice, the use of palm oil derivatives as feed supplements for dairy herds was questioned due to its environmental track-record... We found that higher palmitic acid and oleic acid content increased the melting points of butter. However, the culture and structure of the Canadian dairy industry is such that it’s impossible to compare against benchmarks due to large data deficiencies related to industry standards.
Misconceptions about Canadian dairy products are commonplace among Canadian consumers. Generally, the public perceives the Canadian dairy industry as idyllic, producing from cows that have been grazing in local pastures (Schuppli et al., 2014; Weary & von Keyserlingk, 2017)... Supply management is a protectionist approach to dairy production. Europe, the United Kingdom, Korea, New Zealand, and Australia all had some form of supply management policy in place but all of these programs have since been eliminated (Muirhead and Campbell, 2012; Charlebois et al., 2021)... Society has changed since the introduction of the supply manage- ment system, consumers need accountability and transparency if the dairy industry is to retain their social license to operate in Canada. Farmers face a herd-management challenge in balancing short-term economic profitability that palm oil supplements provide, with prac- tices that consumers deem untenable, such as the environmental destruction caused by the harvesting of palm oil derivatives (Khatun et al., 2017; Tan et al., 2009). Buttergate has shown that the industry cannot disregard the input of consumers. There is virtually no data linking farming practices with quality of products at retail due to the nature of production in Canada. Canada is a science-rich country; yet industry spokesmen claim that the science behind connecting feed to end-product does not exist. However, this science is performable if the industry deems it necessary. This is evident in the adoption of advanced techniques in production, as mentioned previously... the discourse or narrative of dairy farming that requires technocratic expertise is pushed here, subtly suggesting that consumers cannot comprehend the precision needed to produce milk. The disingenuous manner in which palmitic acid is referred to here is evidence of the lack of transparency of the DFC to consumers. The relationship between producers and consumers is such that consumers are not educated on common practices. The reaction of industry insiders to consumers and their advocates suggests that the industry is hostile to third-party regulation, reminiscent of other self-regulating industries of the past... though at least one provincial marketing board recognized a problem with the quality of retail dairy products (BC Milk Marketing Board, 2020), there is virtually no mechanism in place for consumers to question dairy quality... Buttergate did not take place in a vacuum. Consumers comprise an important stakeholder of the dairy industry, not only as end users but as investors. The contempt for consumers as being ignorant or for asking questions exposes not only the lack of transparency of the dairy supply chain, but the lack of political will within the industry for such transparency"
Supply management is necessary to ensure the high quality of dairy products!
Conservatives Made Gains Where Cost Of Living And Tariffs Loomed Large - "Even in Hamilton Centre, which had been represented by the NDP since 2004, the Conservative candidate won more votes than NDP incumbent Matthew Green. Liberal Aslam Rana ultimately won by about 4,000 votes. “Pierre Poilievre, in his rage farming, tapped into a lot of people,” Green told The Maple. “What Poilievre was able to do quite well is take all the grievances of capitalism — the homelessness, the encampments, the food banks, the cost of housing, the cost of fuel — take all the worst parts of capitalism, call it socialism, and blame the government.” “This is a guy who is intellectually dishonest,” said Green."
Clearly, the failure of left wing policies is the fault of capitalism. Commies always work backwards to reach their their desired conclusions, and have the cheek to call everyone they disagree with intellectually dishonest
Meme - Woman comforting distraught woman: "Calling a product or service a human right doesn't magically render it immune to scarcity"
The NDP may be in even bigger trouble than we think : r/CanadianConservative - "Indeed, it just shows they don't ever have their eyes on the purse -- EVER. Not for their organization, not for the country. They can bankrupt anything."
"When in grade 9 our country school principal ran for the ndp. I asked him what he would do if they actually got elected, his answer: "Well, the first day we'd bankrupt the country, after that we have no idea". Lol."
"Exactly, they seem to always be of the opinion there is a magical source of revenue (often referred to as 'the rich')."
Why don't governments tax rich people more? : r/stupidquestions - "Walmart's profit margin is less than 3%. Their labor costs are ~35%. That means ten times more money goes to employees than to owners from every single sale. Walmart employees get paid what they are worth. If Walmart gave the ENTIRE profit of the company to it's employees, each employee would get less than $8000 for the year. This would equate to ~$3.55 an hour for full-time employees. That's it. That's the entire profit of the company. So cool, let's give every employee a $3 an hour raise, and every single Walmart will close within a few years. Poor people don't need anywhere to shop, at least leftists will feel morally superior."
"The store wouldn't close. Also companies making 15 billion a year in profit shouldn't have employees on food stamps. That's called exploitation."
"So explain how the math will work so that the company still makes a profit."
"Maybe it’s not a sustainable business model."
"Describe a way to make a sustainable nationwide distributor of inexpensive goods that are accessible to poor, rural conusmers."
"This isn't sustainable. If it was sustainable we wouldn't have to pay those employees food stamps. This is a company using capitalism for itself by forcing socialism to take care of it's employees. Aka they make money and we the people who pay taxes pay for the food for those employees. This isn't sustainable and should not be the norm."
"Sure are a lot of temporarily embarrassed millionaires here.
Half of the reason those communities are poor now is because all the jobs got driven out by places like Wal Mart."
NPCs can just repeat their lines
Aren’t co-ops expensive? - Food Shed Co-op (new) - "Co-ops strive to build community and as such are not always the lowest cost available compared to low cost chain stores which are often damaging to communities and ultimately have a higher cost to local communities"
We need coops because profits are evil and raise prices. But low cost chains are evil too, so you should pay higher prices at coops
Leading Report on X - "BREAKING: Chicago’s Democrat Mayor Brandon Johnson is warning that the city’s finances are “at the point of no return” unless he gets massive tax hikes to replace dwindling revenue."
Unindicted Ham Sandwich on X - "In his defense, the last Republican Mayor of Chicago left a financial nightmare when his term ended....during the Great Depression, just 94 years ago."
Clearly, the damage left by the last Republican mayor was so bad that it has ruined the city forever
GQ Magazine on X - "“Medicare for all, TRT for all, Ozempic for all, HRT for all. That’s my argument.” — Hasan Piker"
Time to 'tax the 'rich'' to pay for the left's endless wishlist
Laurie Macfarlane on X - "Inheritance tax isn’t “theft” from those who have built a “successful life and legacy”. It is a tax on those receiving a windfall of unearned wealth. It’s not “immoral” unless you think people’s life chances should be determined not by what they do — but who their parents are."
Aetius on X - "“Oh your parents planted a tree for shade they’ll never sit under? Too bad. We need the firewood right now”"
As usual, left wingers think that inherited wealth explains eveything, and that it's unjust for parents to help their kids. No wonder it's unfair to read to your kids
No amount of tax will ever be enough for the left. Even the 100% inheritance tax Abi Wilkinson proposes will quickly be squandered on the endless left wing wishlist, then they'll want a rate higher than 100% to compensate for the supposed unfair advantages being born to rich parents gives you
Matt Walsh on X - "So my children have no right to inherit my money but some obese EBT welfare queen does have a right to inherit my money? Moral madness. Totally indefensible position."
Not to mention illegal immigrants
Comedic policy relief from Canada’s left - "The Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives (CCPA), an Ottawa-based socialist think-tank, is Canada’s best source for policy comedy. One recent article, “Remembering Paul Martin’s disastrous 1995 federal budget,” is an absolute howler. In the 1990s, the article tells us, “Canada was under acute financial pressure to reduce the size of the federal debt.” So in 1995 Paul Martin dramatically cut spending. “These cuts were so deep that Canada eliminated the federal deficit in two short years ahead of schedule. Program spending as a proportion of GDP fell to levels not seen in decades, assisted mightily by the booming U.S. economy, the depreciation of the Canadian dollar, and upswing in tax revenues.” Deficit eliminated two years ahead of schedule! Federal spending as a proportion of GDP lower! GDP itself buoyed by a strong U.S. economy! Higher tax revenues despite lower tax rates, thanks to economic growth! What a disaster that all was — though only in socialist CCPA comedyland... The results of smaller government and freer trade, according to the CCPA: lower job growth, persistently high poverty rates, declining median incomes and downward pressure on wages. That must be more satire, for the reality was the opposite. In fact, from 1997 to 2007, Canada was first in the G7 in real GDP growth and second after the U.K. in real GDP per capita growth, enjoyed employment growth nearly double the OECD average and markedly higher than in the United States, and experienced the fastest growth in business investment of any country in the G7. The gains for those at or near the bottom of the income distribution were significant. From 1996 to 2004, the poverty rate fell from 7.8 per cent to 4.9 per cent, and the child poverty rate nearly halved, from 10.9 per cent to 5.8 per cent. After two decades without sustained progress, in 1996 real after-tax incomes for those at the 20th percentile began to ascend steadily, coinciding with declining unionization — another benefit of smaller government and freer trade. Thanks to the ahead-of-schedule deficit elimination and strong economic performance after the 1995 budget, in 2007-8 federal net debt fell to just 33 per cent of GDP, less than half its peak of over 70 per cent barely a decade earlier. Where was the disaster again? Canada’s economic outperformance against the United States after the 1995 budget dispels the myth that it was mainly a booming U.S. economy that generated our strong results... The CCPA’s purpose in recalling the 1995 budget is of course to “warn” Canadians about spending cuts by the federal Liberal government in 2025. More silliness... The claims that disaster supposedly befell Canada when Paul Martin cut spending in 1995-96, and the predictions that people will die if some time-limited spending programs at the federal department of Women and Gender Equality are allowed to expire, cannot be a surprise. If I recently received a $358,597 taxpayer contribution from the federal department of Women and Gender Equality, as CCPA did starting in 2021, I might argue the same. Thankfully, the money wasn’t a total waste. In exchange for the funding taxpayers were forced to give it, CCPA at least gave us some comedic writing in return."
Left wingers want high government spending and a big state for their own sake
