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Thursday, December 21, 2023

Links - 21st December 2023 (1 - Hamas Attack Oct 2023)

Thread by @Aizenberg55 on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App - "🧵HAMAS FAKE CASUALTY UPDATE: Hamas now reports the opposite of last 6 week trend: only male deaths in last 4 days. Perhaps they read analysis showing women & children deaths kept rising in impossible ways. This only deepens dubiousness of Hamas numbers... UN reports daily Hamas stats. Each day UN adds this note about total fatalities: “about 70 per cent of whom are said to be women and children.” It's another way of saying: we have no idea & neither does Hamas but we’ll report them anyway so media & NGOs can say “the UN says.” As a recap, on many days in Oct Nov & early Dec of total fatalities added less than 5% were men. Women & children killed soared (see chart). For example: Oct 31 only 6 of 216 new fatalities were men; 4 of 306 on Nov 7; 44 of 929 on Dec 7. Many similar anomalies on other days. Some critics claim Total Killed less women & children is NOT men but men+unidentified; then later sex & age is modified in totals. This idea fails. First, Hamas says bodies counted by health authorities. Are we to believe they can't say right away if man, woman or child? Second, on many days of new fatalities added to total less than 5% were men. Even if somehow there is a group of “unidentified” bodies that only later do the "health authorities" identify age & sex and add to total, it can’t be that so often it's 95% or more women & children. The fact that in the last few days it seems ONLY MEN are added makes numbers even LESS reliable. It seems like the cryptic UN note "of whom are said" to be 70% women & children is the guiding metric and the numbers are adjusted afterwards to fit that numerical mandate. On Dec 9 Israeli authority stated “minimal estimate” of 7,000 Hamas killed. That’s about 1,500 more than total men killed (which would also include many civilians) according to Hamas – who report no combatant deaths! Yet somehow the Hamas numbers still garner credibility."

Thread by @wesyang on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App - ""I am personally aware of more than a billion dollars of terminated donations from a small group of Harvard’s most generous Jewish and non-Jewish alumni." To my knowledge, the Wall Street shareholder-activist model of hostile takeover has never before been deployed against US NGO's and universities. Just as junior employee activism became a new star in the political firmament in the 2010's, driving the Great Awokening, fund managers are suddenly intervening in the governance of major US institutions. It is a fascinating development. Earlier this year, the Supreme Court ruled that racial preferences in college admissions were unconstitutional, only to be greeted by open avowals by universities, including Harvard, to find ways to persist in the granting of such preferences that could evade detection or enforcement. The new donor activists propose themselves as a privatized enforcement arm of a SCOTUS decision that elite consensus would have happily thwarted. We will see whether these new activists have the wherewithal and persistence to carry out this mission. Many high net-worth Jewish individuals who are major donors to universities saw the world erupt into ecstasy at seeing Jews massacred -- including students and faculty at the very institutions that have been mainlining money from them for decades. Whether they can deploy their methods successfully in a sustained way is an open question -- frankly, I'm skeptical. But that they got one university president fired is already far more than anyone could have guessed was possible. And an important thing happened that made any of this possible: they totally lost the fear and awe that made them such assiduous donors to these institutions in the first place. They realized that DEI has begun hollowing out these revered institutions (which still of course employ many of the world's smartest people) and that something fundamentally pathological has infected them and that they have a right to act to work their will in hitherto unprecedented and unthinkable ways. It is a story with major consequences for important institutions that was conducted more or less entirely on Twitter, with zero need to make recourse to the mainstream press. It's all a first move toward a general decoupling from the institutions sustaining the fragile pseudo-consensus. No faculty member is going to support having fund managers determine their president. But some faculty members know that the processes that made Gay's ascension inexorable were never going to be reformed from within, and that if anything was going to change, it would require some exogenous shock."

Actor Michael Rapaport appears on Israeli show satirizing US college antisemitism - "American-Jewish actor and comedian Michael Rapaport was a guest on the Israeli satirical show “Eretz Nehederet” on Tuesday night, appearing in a skit poking fun at the heads of prominent American universities who have been embroiled in scandal over the last week over their failure to condemn calls for the genocide of Jews... rofessor Snape says, “On the one hand, as a Slytherin professor, I do have some feelings against [mudbloods,] but on the other hand, as a half-blood myself, I think calling for their genocide is perfectly alright.” The comment appears to be a reference to MIT’s Kornbluth, who is Jewish herself... “Eretz Nehederet” highlighted the disconnect between Hamas’s leaders, who live in luxury in Qatar, and the civilians of Gaza who are suffering with limited access to food and shelter. The short satirical song opens with a charity appeal for assistance in Gaza, as a woman appears onscreen and says: “The children of Gaza are suffering, they have no food or medicine but you can help, please open your heart and make a donation by clicking on the link below.” The video then cuts to a graphic depicting the amount of aid that has been sent to the people of Gaza from around the world before being immediately redirected to Qatar. Three of the “Eretz Nehederet” cast members play the roles of Moussa Abu Marzouk, the deputy chairman of Hamas’s political bureau; former Hamas head Khaled Mashaal; and Ismail Haniyeh, the chairman of the Hamas political bureau. All three currently reside in Qatar and have net worths of roughly $3 billion, $4 billion and $4 billion respectively... The short satirical song shows the three Hamas leaders living in luxury homes, wearing silk robes and gold jewelry, enjoying expensive cars, cigars and decadent food. “I can’t believe what we’ve brought on Gaza, thank God that we are safe in Doha Plaza,” the song starts, with clips of three Hamas leaders playing poker in gold and white marble surroundings. “Dollar bills, dollar bills, our people have no water, wonder how that feels,” the character of Abu Marzouk sings as he lounges in a deep bath. Earlier this month, the IDF published receipts found during raids on Hamas sites in the Gaza Strip that it said showed that one of Haniyeh’s sons bought jewelry in recent years worth thousands of dollars while many in Gaza were going hungry... the “amount of just one receipt is equivalent to approximately two years’ wages for a Gaza resident.”"

Ivy League slashes donor door to $2m over antisemitism - "Elite colleges are quietly slashing the level of donations which can secure admission as mega-donors close their checkbooks to the Ivy League over antisemitism on campus. Their long-term practice of giving special consideration to big donors’ children and grandchildren has been badly hit by a growing backlash against college leaders’ failure to keep Jewish students safe. Now, according to one college counselor, a $2 million check might be the new $20 million... Protesters at UPenn’s campus were even heard chanting for an “Intifada revolution” this weekend. Harvard last week became the latest Ivy to be investigated by the Department of Education for civil rights violations under Title VI, joining UPenn, Columbia and Cornell in the dubious distinction. The probe into antisemitism has also caught up The Cooper Union in New York City, Wellesley College in Massachusetts, the University of Tampa, Fla., and Lafayette College, Indiana. The impact on donations has been felt by Harvard, where former Victoria’s Secret CEO Les Wexner, whose foundation had given untold millions to Harvard over 34 years, cut ties with the university. Hedge funder Bill Ackman has repeatedly spoken out, along with $500m donor Ken Griffin. At UPenn, Marc Rowan, a member of the Board of Overseers, publicly called on donors to stop giving until the president and chairman resign, while Estée Lauder billionaire Ronald Lauder stopped his donations."

Brown University students arrested after demonstration - "Forty-one Brown University students in Providence, Rhode Island, were arrested on Monday after a pro-Palestine walkout, according to WJAR-TV. The Brown University Palestine Solidarity Caucus held the demonstration. The students were demanding divestment from the university and justice for a student who was shot in Vermont, reported WJAR-TV. The students were arrested for refusing to leave University Hall. They were told to leave by 5 p.m. but were still there nearly two hours later, reported WJAR-TV."
Steve McGuire on X - "Remember Brown previously had charges dropped against 20 students after one of their classmates was shot in Vermont. It will be interesting to see how it plays out this time. After the last charges were dropped, Brown students shouted the president down at a vigil for the student who was shot, so she might be less inclined to be lenient this time."

Gad Saad on X - "If you are silent when Muslims kill millions of their own people but suddenly you become enraged when Israel retaliates (yes heavily) to the inhumane October 7th attacks, it's not anti-Zionism" It's Jew-hatred. You yawn when millions of Muslims are killed by other Muslims but scream "From the river to the sea" when Israel rightly retaliates. Modern-day Israel is a God sent to millions of Jew-haters. "Oh no, I love the Jews. I only hate Zionism.""

Aviva Klompas on X - "Jews exit a Hannukah party in DC and are met by people screaming "We will kill you all, occupiers"
Naturally, there were Palestine-supporters claiming this was a false flag

California scraps in-person Christmas tree lighting due to anti-Israel protesters

Manslaughter charges filed in death of Paul Kessler - Los Angeles Times - "Prosecutors on Friday laid out the voluminous evidence they used to back charges of involuntary manslaughter and battery against a Moorpark professor in the death of a Jewish protester. Despite the clearest description yet of how felony charges came to be filed against Loay Abdelfattah Alnaji, 50, however, Ventura County Dist. Atty Erik Nasarenko and Sheriff Jim Fryhoff did not make public a specific timeline of what happened that led to the death of 69-year-old Paul Kessler. “Our prosecutors have reviewed over 600 pieces of evidence and the statements of over 60 witnesses,” Nasarenko said, noting that the evidence provides a “clear sequence of events leading up to the confrontation.” Alnaji and Kessler clashed at a protest related to the Israel-Hamas war, during which demonstrators on both sides met at an intersection in Thousand Oaks... He said he later saw the same protester — now identified as Alnaji — hit someone with his megaphone on the opposite corner, where Kessler had been carrying an Israeli flag... Oswaks was disappointed that hate charges were not filed. “We endured hate rhetoric,” he said Friday, adding that one pro-Palestinian supporter rubbed Kessler’s blood into a sign of hate against Israel. “If this isn’t the definition of a hate crime, I don’t know what is.”"
Who is Loay Alnaji? Pro-Palestinian Accused of Killing Paul Kessler - "hate watchdog StopAntisemitism posted screen recordings of posts on what it said was his Instagram account, including one in which a man questioned the condemnation of Hamas and compared the militant group to Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Gandhi, among others."

Stripped Bare: HAMAS Prisoner Searches and Deceptive Imagery - "The recent internet comments regarding the IDF stripping prisoners before execution is deceptive. The practice of stripping prisoners to their underwear is done because it is the most efficient way of searching prisoners for suicide vests... “Independent Thinker” kim Iversen’s equates Palestinian prisoner searching to the Holocaust."

Penn president resigns; Stefanik vows Harvard and MIT next - "University of Pennsylvania President Liz Magill on Saturday voluntarily stepped down from her role after facing intense blowback following a House Education committee hearing this week... Magill, along with Harvard President Claudine Gay and Massachusetts Institute of Technology President Sally Kornbluth, participated in a contentious, more than five-hour grilling from lawmakers Tuesday over their response to antisemitism on their campuses. They faced backlash for evading a question from Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) who asked about pro-Palestinian student protestors’ calls for “intifada” or “the genocide of Jews.” “Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn’s rules or code of conduct, yes or no?” Stefanik asked Magill on Tuesday, to which Magill responded: “If the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment.” Stefanik slammed the response, saying: “Conduct meaning committing the act of genocide? The speech is not harassment? This is unacceptable.” The other presidents responded similarly to the question. They said they personally did not agree with the rhetoric used by those students and were committed to preserving free speech on campus... Magill is the first president to step down over a response to campus antisemitism. Several lawmakers and top officials across the aisle have slammed the leaders for refusing to say calls for “Jewish genocide” violate their codes of conduct around bullying or harassment Tuesday... she said that during her testimony she was “focused on our university’s longstanding policies aligned with the U.S. Constitution, which say that speech alone is not punishable.” Magill also said her school would “initiate a serious and careful look at our policies.”... “President Magill had three chances to set the record straight when asked if calling for the genocide of Jews violated UPenn’s code of conduct during our hearing on antisemitism,” Foxx said in a statement. “Instead of giving a resounding yes to the question, she chose to equivocate.”"
Clearly only ignorant conservatives who don't value education think there's a problem with American universities

Harvard redefining plagiarism by standing by Claudine Gay, claims academic she accused of copying - "House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, a Republican from Louisiana, also argued that Stefanik’s question about whether calls for genocide violate their code of conduct was “not a hard question — in fact, it was probably the easiest question. “The abject failure of these presidents to defend even the most basic of human rights — the right to exist — against hypothetical wokeism exposed the moral bankruptcy of these elite universities to the world,” Scalise said in a statement. Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz, of Florida, also called Stefanik’s query a “softball question.” “That’s not a trick question, and it’s infuriating that these leaders of young people would try to equivocate with some nonsense about ‘it depends on the context.’ “Sub out ‘Jews’ for any other persecuted minority group and they would never have given that answer,” he argued, saying the university leaders “failed the test, and just like their students, there are no makeups.”"

Penn loses $100 million donation after antisemitism hearing - "In a letter to Penn Senior Vice President Wendy White, lawyers for Ross Stevens, the founder and CEO of Stone Ridge Asset Management, said Stevens would be withdrawing his gift, now valued at about $100 million, that was expected to fund the Stevens Center for Innovation in Finance. Stevens’s lawyers allege Penn violated the terms of Stone Ridge’s limited partner agreement with the school."

Student political groups discuss free speech on campus after Penn receives low ranking - "Penn's political clubs had mixed reactions to Penn's recent second-to-last ranking out of 248 universities for free speech on college campuses. In a recent study conducted by The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, a non-profit aimed at protecting free speech on college campuses, Penn was placed at number 247 out of 248 schools on the free speech ranking, with only Harvard University ranked below, for the second year in a row... In a written statement to the DP, Penn Democrats expressed support for free speech on campus. “Penn Dems support free speech on campus and welcomes diverse political viewpoints that promote open, fact-based dialogue. We oppose conversation that amplifies bigotry and discrimination of any kind,” Penn Dems Communication Director and College junior Nicole Giegerich said."
So much for their commitment to free speech

Hamas' genocidal massacre on October 7 has deep historical roots - "A massacre of unarmed Jews is under way. Homes have been ransacked and their inhabitants tortured, raped and slaughtered. Hearing screams in one house, a policeman rushes in to find ‘an Arab in the act of cutting off a child’s head with a sword’. Behind him another with a dagger looms over a ‘Jewish woman smothered in blood’. Another policeman finds one Jewish body dumped in the street that had been ‘burned so much that the legs were separated from the body’. This is not an account of the heinous massacres perpetrated by Hamas in Israel on 7 October, although the details are practically identical. These are British reports of the 1929 massacres in Hebron and other Jewish areas of mandate Palestine. More than 130 Jews were murdered in ‘acts of unspeakable savagery’ by ‘ruthless and bloodthirsty evildoers’ according to the British authorities. They blamed these atrocities on ‘racial animosity on the part of the Arabs’. Some of the most callous and immoral Western progressives and apologists for terror have tried to justify, excuse and even celebrate this past weekend’s pogroms as acts of ‘resistance’ against occupation. As if anything could justify the rape of innocent women, the butchery of the elderly and the murder of babies. But the example of Hebron gives even further proof, as if any was needed, to the lie that such extreme religiously motivated terror is a response to occupation. This is not any way a response to occupation. There had been a continuous Jewish presence in Hebron stretching back to biblical times prior to the 1929 pogrom. Yet, before the state of Israel even existed, Arabs slaughtered their Jewish neighbours without remorse and without regard for age, sex or how long they had resided in the land. Just as now, evidence of these barbaric crimes still could not convince the most bigoted. The socialist Fabian member, and co-founder of the London School of Economics, Beatrice Webb, responded to the massacres in Hebron with disdain: ‘I can’t understand why the Jews make such a fuss over a few dozen of their people killed in Palestine. As many are killed every week in London in traffic accidents, and no one pays any attention.’ Fanning the flames of these barbaric assaults in 1929 was Haj Amin Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem. It was the mufti who propagated the idea that the Jews were planning to conquer the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque. He drew on religious rhetoric to urge violent resistance, infusing the emerging Palestinian Arab national movement with a radical Islamic aspect. He would go on to be a confidant of Adolf Hitler and a zealous supporter of the ‘Final Solution’, recruiting three mostly Muslim Waffen SS divisions in the Balkans. Despite the overwhelming evidence of his collaboration with the Nazis, the Allied powers decided against prosecuting him for ‘war crimes’ for fear of insulting Arab sensibilities in the geopolitically pivotal Middle East... As the leader of the Arab Higher Committee in Palestine, Husseini was influential in rejecting the UN partition plan in 1947-8 and rallying Arab leaders to wage war for the ‘elimination of the Jewish state’. Yet Husseini’s most enduring and darkest legacy is his collaboration with al-Banna to forge a radically anti-semitic, Islamist movement to carry on their struggle against the Jews. Forty years after Israel’s independence, Hamas, an offshoot of al-Banna’s Muslim Brotherhood, was established... The essence of the matter is: Hamas does not surrender because it believes, fervently, that Israel has no right to exist and that armed “resistance” to it, even at the terrible human cost currently being paid by both Israelis and Palestinians, is justified. That belief is accepted, or at least not fundamentally challenged, by many on college campuses, social media and elsewhere who are demanding, in effect, that Israel surrender. Talk about naive."
Anti-semites keep insisting history started in 1948, and before 1948, Jews, Christians and Muslims lived together in peace and harmony without the stain of Zionism

Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War - "the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(a) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;
(b) Taking of hostages...
The protection to which civilian hospitals are entitled shall not cease unless they are used to commit, outside their humanitarian duties, acts harmful to the enemy... The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations."
Weird how the people who keep condemning Israel never condemn Hamas for killing civilians, taking hostages, using human shields or using hospitals for military purposes

Opinion | Hamas should surrender but won’t - The Washington Post - "Hamas, a terrorist organization, lacks political and legal substance. It won an election in Gaza after Israel left in 2005 and subsequently established a dictatorship over the territory’s 2.3 million people through violence. Its war aim is not democracy or civil rights for Palestinians but to destroy Israel and establish an Islamist state — an objective as patently illegitimate as Russian President Vladimir Putin’s bid to erase and Russify Ukraine, another recognized member of the United Nations. At this point, Hamas’s war is not only unjust but also pretty clearly doomed. Down in their subterranean headquarters, the organization’s leaders must be aware their forces are being hit hard by an overwhelmingly superior Israeli military waging what it considers a fight for survival. There has been no full-scale revolt among Palestinian citizens of Israel or West Bank Palestinians, which Hamas leaders called for on Oct. 7, nor a regional rebellion — beyond admittedly large anti-Israel demonstrations in Jordan, Lebanon and elsewhere. Iran and Hezbollah do not seem inclined to ride to Hamas’s rescue, as per the group’s other war aim: to trigger conflict throughout the Middle East. Even if Hamas now intends to settle for a limited goal — dramatizing the Palestinian cause and thereby derailing an Israeli-Saudi rapprochement it sees as selling out Palestinian interests — it long ago reached a point of diminishing returns. Recent Saudi diplomacy strongly implies the kingdom will pursue relations with Israel after the war, albeit possibly with heightened demands regarding concessions for Palestinians. Hamas’s war is not only futile but also waged by exclusively unlawful means. It began with the massacre of 859 civilians (at last count) from the Jewish state and around the world, along with about 300 Israeli soldiers, some killed while defenseless. That slaughter was accompanied by a rocket fusillade fired indiscriminately from Gaza at civilian targets in Israel. Indeed, Palestinians killed by Hamas’s own errant rockets (or those of another group, Palestinian Islamic Jihad) likely account for some of the 11,000-plus Palestinian deaths recorded by the Hamas-controlled Gaza Health Ministry since Israel began to fight back... However, Israel does not intentionally target civilians, whereas Hamas not only did so on Oct. 7 but also intentionally put Gazan civilians at risk by embedding its armed militia in homes, schools and hospitals. Equally clear is that Hamas uses these human shields for protection against Israeli fire — and consciously reaps propaganda benefit from their deaths. In short, the quickest, most appropriate way to save Palestinian lives, including those of Hamas fighters — many of whom are numbered, albeit unacknowledged, among the Gaza Health Ministry body count — would be for Hamas to surrender. After all, it has no prospect of meaningful victory. Nevertheless, many people in the United States and around the world, invoking the need to save Palestinian lives, are instead demanding a cease-fire whose terms are vaguely described but apparently involve an end to Israel’s operations without requiring Hamas to leave power or renounce armed struggle. This demand seems at least as unrealistic as asking Hamas to surrender — with the important difference that it is also much less just. Israel has a right to defend itself militarily. There is legitimate debate, of course, regarding the lawfulness and proportionality of Israel’s military operation, notwithstanding the dilemmas that Hamas’s use of human shields imposes on Israeli forces. Constrained by law, public opinion and the consciences of its troops, Israel tries to minimize harm to civilians. Even those who deny the sincerity or efficacy of those efforts must acknowledge that Hamas doesn’t try at all. To put the burden on Israel to end the war is to forget that there was an agreed-upon cease-fire between the Jewish state and Hamas before Oct. 7. The party that violated the cease-fire — in the most flagrant, provocative way possible — was Hamas. Having started this war, Hamas should end it."
Weird how Hamas keeps saying they're going to fight until Israel is destroyed, and their supporters invariably let the mask slip and reveal their anti-Semitism, but Israel is to blame for trying to destroy Hamas first

CAIR Releases Updated Number of Complaints, Bias Incidents Reported Against Maryland Muslims, Arabs in Past 8 Weeks - "Teachers placed on administrative leave without warning for expressing support for Palestinian human rights
High school students heckled and harassed during a peaceful walkout in solidarity with Palestinian human rights
Students forbidden from displaying the watermelon symbol, Palestinian flag or saying ‘Free Palestine’ on school property...
Students photographed by a stranger without consent after attending a protest for Palestine...
Dehumanizing remarks by lawmakers...
Students approached for questioning by a law enforcement officer while playing basketball
Road rage involving an aggressive driver making obscene comments about ‘Free Palestine’ bumper sticker on a vehicle...
Anti-Palestine propaganda and rhetoric by a teacher
When liberals complain about "harassment", "bias" or "hate crimes" and you dig into the details, you find that they're padded with rubbish. Counter protests are bad when they're not liberal-approved, if you advocate genocide and get put on leave, this is bias, and students get to hijack school for liberal-approved political causes (god forbid it's something they're against though, since that is hate speech - as we can see banning pro-Palestine remarks is bias but allowing anti-Palestine remarks is also bias)

Complaint says Muslim Arab American teacher was discriminated against after put on leave over pro-Palestinian phrase in email - "The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has filed a discrimination complaint on behalf of a Black Muslim Arab American teacher in Maryland, who was placed on administrative leave for her email signature, which included a controversial phrase supporting Palestinian rights... El-Haggan’s email signature included the phrase “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”... The Anti-Defamation League and other mainstream Jewish groups have accused the slogan of being “antisemitic” and a “rallying cry (that) has long been used by anti-Israel voices, including supporters of terrorist organizations such as Hamas.”... The school district’s policy for email best practices and other digital communications is posted on its website and asks employees to maintain professional email signatures and abstain from “special stationery, quotations or sayings as part of or following an employee’s email signature.”... The complaint filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission says, “Ms. El-Haggan was informed that including any political or non-political quotes in an email signature was against the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct, yet this policy was never enforced against any of Ms. El-Haggan’s colleagues who participated in similar conduct.” The complaint includes photos and screenshots of other email signatures from teachers at the school, including political and social justice quotes and links in support of topics such as Black Lives Matter and LGBTQ rights... “With the recent events in Gaza and in Palestine, I have become an advocate for their (Palestinians’) peace and for their freedom,” El-Haggan said. “It is intrinsically tied to the core of who I am as a Muslim and as an Arab, as it is for many Muslims and Arabs.”... The complaint says El-Haggan was discriminated against on the basis of her race and religion, among other factors, and says the county’s actions violate Title VII of the Civil Rights Act and the Maryland Fair Employment Practices Act."
Weird. Apparently all Muslims inherently support Palestine, much less Jewish genocide. Essentialism is good when it serves liberal causes.
If dual loyalty is racist when applied to Jews, why are Muslims promoting dual loyalty?
So much for rights not being like cake - more for one doesn't mean less for another. What do you do when two organisations liberals support come up on opposite sides?
When liberal politicking backfires - is supporting Palestine or Israel being a "decent human being" (and thus not "political")?
Blacks are supposed to inherently support Palestine too, apparently

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