The Washington Times on X - ""Supergirl" star on character being seen as queer icon: "I'm honored that that's happening, but I think because she doesn't live inside the binary of what we think a woman should be, that is what makes it so special and so exciting and so new.""
Daniel Friedman on X - "There are two times a woman-led superhero movie has been a box-office hit:
1. Wonder Woman. The character was established in “Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice” and her solo movie released ahead of the “Justice League” crossover movie.
2. Captain Marvel. The movie was teased in the post-credits scene for “Avengers: Infinity War” and her movie came between that and “Avengers: Endgame.”
The sequels to Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel, which were not propped up by major crossover films, did poorly. And the small, disappointing audiences for both of those sequels were 65 percent male. Every superhero movie, including female-led ones, has a predominantly male audience. The movie must be marketed to men to overcome the presumption that the film isn’t for them. Because men might bring their girlfriends to the female superhero movie, but women aren’t going to show up to this without men. And just about the worst thing you could say while promoting a girlboss superhero movie that has to appeal to a skeptical male audience is: “This is the gayest superhero movie ever.” Nobody is going to see this."
Harrison Casper on X - "The only two superhero movies to have a majority female audience were Wonder Woman and Aquaman. These movies actually had romance and sex appeal. It's difficult to get more women than men to show up for an action movie, all of Marvel's female-led movies had a majority male crowd."
Gazz on X - "The new Supergirl movie is dropping in 2 days and it's already cooked. Mostly because of Milly Alcock and her nonstop weird comments. This girl keeps saying she's getting backlash just for "simply existing as a woman" in the franchise. Then she hits us with "we've become very comfortable having this weird ownership of women’s bodies. I can’t really stop them." When people called her out she doubled down like "i didn’t even say men i said people and y’all are proving my point π" She even laughs about critics being anonymous burner accounts or "Dad of four, Christian" profiles and says if you're pissing them off you're doing something right. Brother... if your entire press tour is basically "anyone who doesn't love this is a weird misogynist who owns women's bodies" before the movie even comes out, what do you expect? Tracking is already in the toilet. This one's gonna flop so hard. Anyone else think the comments killed it before it even dropped? #Supergirl #MillyAlcock"
Gazz on X - "‘SUPERGIRL’ just dropped on Rotten Tomatoes at 59% π₯ Lowest score for any DCU movie so far. Even the big outlets that usually bend over backwards for controversial shit didn’t like it. Daily Telegraph gave it 2/5 and called it an endless Mad Max/Star Wars rehash. Associated Press said it struggles to match Supergirl’s energy. San Francisco Chronicle only went 3/5. The reviews are rough. Box office tracking is already collapsing too — now sitting at $45-55 million opening weekend. That’s weak as hell for this level of movie. it’s happening. Anyone else think this is about to be one of the bigger DC bombs? #Supergirl"
Time to blame the chuds for brainwashing the people into not watching it. Apparently they are so toxic they've brainwashed professional reviewers as well
CinemaCopa on X - "There needs to be an understanding that the marketing campaign is the audience's first introduction to the movie, and nothing about Supergirl says, "Family of four, please invite me into your life and spend over $100 on me." Supergirl herself looks disgusting, like she's some desert lot lizard on her 3rd hangover in 2 days. Girls don't want to imagine themselves looking like trash, boys don't find this look mixed with her cynically aloofness personality attractive, and parents don't want their daughters thinking this what you aspire to be. Furthermore, the plot and look seems to be a cheap Guardians of the Galaxy reskin. How many times can you spend $100+ on a movie you've already seen in four different variations over the last 12 years? Then you have Milly Alcock actively alienating the audience by claiming Christian dads are "the right people to piss off" and announcing that Supergirl "swings both ways."
Audience: "How does this sell movie tickets?"
Marketing/ Alcock: "Movie tickets?"
Sure, you can make the case that there is a social media dogpile happening here. You could even argue that rival studios are actively amplifying the backlash. But the biggest indicator that Supergirl is in trouble is its own introduction. Blame marketing, blame Gunn, blame Alcock, but don’t blame the audience who announces that they refuse to spend their hard-earned money on something that practically screams it's made of garbage juice."
Left wingers always blame the audience. They hate the people whose money they feel entitled to
Meme - Soyjak: "SupergirI failed because people aren't ready for a female led Superhero movie."
Soyjak bound by Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth: "I have been trained like a seal to defend all corpo slop with identity politics."
ETHAN VAN SCIVER on X - "I just got back from SUPERGIRL. Women shouldn't be allowed to write this stuff because all they do is recycle from the kewl unisex SCI FI shit they've already seen. This movie is filled with cliches and characters straight up ripped from Disney STAR WARS, GAME OF THRONES, and MAD MAX. LOBO doesn't even need to be in this. We're introduced to him as a violent, murderous god who shouldn't be approached, but the Arya Stark clone isn't afraid of him. And so...he respects her. Lobo spends the whole movie doing nothing but respecting and admiring Arya Stark and Supergirl. Because that's what female creators in these spaces do with these popular bad ass masculine characters. They siphon their clout onto their female characters like vampires. Still, I wasn't bored. I was very interested in Kara and I am interested in seeing more of her story. I hope she gets herself together and finds purpose and family on Earth. BTW, @JonMalin 's theory about Brainiac and Jor-El's message was debunked completely in this film. I give it a C. Mediocre, with an EXCELLENT performance from Milly Alcock, a very talented actress who should have been given better material."
︎ ︎venom on X - "Superhero for men like Spiderman, Batman and Superman struggle, fail, learn, face heartbreak, lose everything, and despite everything keep saving people. While female superheroes get drunk, do hookups, one-night stands, are messy, hate men and always show how superior they are to men. Most of the audience for superhero movies are men. Why would men watch movies that mock and hate them constantly? No wonder She-Hulk failed and now Supergirl is a flop."
Mr Melancholy on X - "Supergirl's failure like every other female led movie failure will be blamed on misogyny but I am here to tell you the real reason female led movies don't succeed at the box office because they're made with the idea that the movie is not for men. They go far as to uglyfy the female lead so she doesn't appeal to the male gaze. Whenever a movie of any genre is made with the word "female led" attached to it everything else fades away in the favour of "female" take supergirl for example the story on which is based on is completely stripped of anything interesting the hot character, the plot, the colours the side characters everything. All that remains is the girl boss bad ass female who is there to beat up men and prove her gender superiority and that is just not an interesting plot to follow. It doesn't help that you kinda alienated the biggest market for superhero movies "men"."
GeroDoc on X - "πStop. Making. Shltty. Movies. This post, below, in the first picture, is yet another example of "fan baiting" (or just fan-blaming) - it's a strategy now honed and perfected for the modern era and executed in decentralized fashion via social media. It's a way to blame fans and critics for studios, actors, and marketers for making a movie that suck ass. Let me tell you about a movie that came out in 2022 - during the pandemic era no less, called "Everything Everywhere all at Once." While not a superhero film per se, it featured a strong female (and Chinese American) lead who travelled through time, fought and kicked ass with martial arts action, and was heroic. It is a science fiction, action, and adventure film. It was kinetic, inventive, & I personally greatly enjoyed it. It featured a female led cast and protagonist, the Mom who was the lead was a business owner and had a lesbian daughter who also was the major supporting character (excellent character development). Despite it being released during the pandemic era of 2022, it nearly 6x'd its modest production budget of 20 million and is one of the most profitable independent films of the modern era. Rotten Tomatoes has it at 95% average rating amongst viewers, and critics universally loved it. Supergirl is a shltty movie. I'M SICK TO DEATH OF CORPORATES AND THEIR TOADIES BLAMING THE POOR PERFORMANCE OF THEIR MEDIA PROJECTS ON "SEXISM" OR "RACISM" OR "MISOGYNY." I LIVED THROUGH THE 80s AND 90S. AMERICA DOESN'T CARE. YOU FUCKERS ARE MAKING THIS SHIT UP. FUCK YOU. The American public is more than happy to accept strong female leads in action films. They just can't be shltty, and they need to stop treating half of their audience like they hate them and condescending the other half, and then lazily just cutting and pasting women into male roles and then calling that "feminist," because that's disinteresting and a turnoff to basically everyone."
TG✨π―π² on X - "I’m extremely exhausted by the James Gunn comic book movie formula. It’s played out. It’s like the same thing repackaged countless times, even with the DC films he hasn’t directed like Supergirl.
Animal companion to emotionally manipulate the audience✅
Excessive and cringeworthy needle drops✅
Forced humour✅
Space adventure with weird creatures✅
Action scenes shot to look like one take, often accompanied by a needle drop✅
I’m tired. If James Gunn is going to mould all the films in his DCU to feel like his own films, even the ones he doesn’t write and direct then I’m out."
Matt Jarbo on X - "Ana Nogueira is about to become the scapegoat for SUPERGIRL. The movie has debuted rotten, the screenplay is one of the biggest targets in the reviews, and people are already calling for her to be removed from WONDER WOMAN and TEEN TITANS. That was always going to happen. James Gunn spent years telling everyone DC Studios would not greenlight a movie until the script was finished and strong enough to shoot. Then he publicly praised SUPERGIRL’s screenplay as being “so fucking good off the bat.” So when the movie lands and critics complain about thin storytelling, weak character arcs and safe writing, somebody has to absorb that failure. It probably will not be Gunn. It will be the first-time feature screenwriter whose name is on the script. Never mind that executives approved it. Never mind that Gunn praised it. Never mind that scripts change during production, reshoots and editing. Her name is still on the finished movie, and Hollywood loves a convenient person to blame when an expensive project misses. Nogueira may have earned the trust to write three DC films, but SUPERGIRL could easily become the reason she only gets to make one. Will DC Studios stand behind Ana Nogueira, or quietly let her take the fall?"
Threads - "We won’t green light a film until we have a finished script we’re happy with and, in general, we won’t cast a film until the script is finished. This is why some projects are moving faster than anticipated and others more slowly. It’s always gonna be quality first no matter what."
Gabe Hernandez | Urban Fantasy Author on X - "This post will forever haunt James Gunn if Supergirl flops. Why?... . . Because this post is what's called a pace setter. He's telling you why things are the way they are. More importantly, he's establishing himself as the boss in full control. He's positioning himself as the leader that has a plan and is executing it per his grand design. There are no mistakes. You "just don't understand" the plan. Now, we have reality. Superman was good but underperformed due to avoidable flaws. Supergirl early reviews are mixed to poor and could be a major flop. Lanterns is up next, and the early buzz suffers from the same drab, dreary edge lord tone as Supergirl (w/ a first season written by Tom King, the son of a longtime WB executive) Then, Clayface arrives. A b-list Batman villain film without Batman in it. Sony did the same with their Spider-Man villains, and all failed except Venom. Next year, Superman 2, which is too early to tell, and The Batman 2, which was started from a saga before Gunn took charge. When you put them all together, you get a leader who says he has a plan, who tells you everything is working as designed, who tells you everything is under control. Reality paints a different picture. What do you think? Do you feel reassured that James Gunn is a leader with a plan that's working?"
ComicBook Clique | Facebook - "π£ Has "Not Attractive Enough" become a death sentence for genuinely good movies, or do "fans" have a problem with women?
It is hard not to feel completely cynical about comic book movies lately, and it has nothing to do with the actual films. It is the exhausting, permissible cruelty that we just accept as part of the internet culture surrounding them. Every single time a woman takes on one of these major roles, it feels like we are just counting down the days until the internet tries to tear her apart. Look at what is happening right now with Milly Alcock. *Supergirl* just hit theaters, but the actual movie has been completely swallowed by bad-faith actors and culture-war grifters. She gave interviews where she pointed out the very real, uncomfortable truth that people feel a weird sense of ownership over women's bodies online. In response, the internet did exactly what it always does. It proved her point by twisting her words, running sensationalized headlines, and framing her as some villain who is attacking the fans. But if you dig beneath the manufactured outrage, the real driving force is even more shallow and pathetic. There is a massive, incredibly loud subsection of the online community targeting her simply because they do not find her attractive enough. Apparently, failing to cater to the narrow visual preferences of a bunch of basement dwellers is a punishable offense when it comes to a leading lady. Her fitness, her look, and her face all get hyper-analyzed and picked apart by people who act like a female superhero exists solely to be their personal eye candy. To be absolutely clear, I am not simping for a billion-dollar corporation, nor am I coming to the defense of a wealthy celebrity. The studio and the stars will be fine. I am just deeply saddened by how toxic, yet completely predictable, the entire discourse has become. We have seen this script play out so many times before that it is practically a formula. Rachel Zegler, Brie Larson, Kelly Marie Tran, Daisy Ridley, Moses Ingram, Ava DuVernay... the list just keeps growing. These women are mercilessly bullied for having opinions, for how they look, or simply for existing in spaces that a vocal minority feels entitled to control. The most disturbing part is how any perceived career speedbump or box office failure for these women is celebrated as a massive victory. It is treated as a win for a subsection of society that wants to feel like they have the power to punish and humble women they do not like or agree with. Look, I am not telling anyone that they have to like the Supergirl film or even watch it. Everyone is free to pass on a movie. But can we go back to judging these films on merit, or has that ship sailed into 4chan territory completely? The most depressing part is that a genuinely good, enjoyable film is going to die on the vine because of this. Instead of talking about the story, the performance, or the world-building, the entire conversation is poisoned. A young actress gets cast, she experiences an onslaught of scrutiny, she speaks up about how toxic it is, and then she gets labeled as difficult or ungrateful while the internet review-bombs the project. It is a race to the bottom where faceless burner accounts and media outlets extract maximum outrage for clicks, and we all just shrug and say it comes with the territory. They'll say I'm being disingenuous but actors like The Rock have been putting out slop for years with nowhere near the level of scrutiny that someone like Brie Larson has although she has a better filmography. We are building these massive, multi-billion dollar universes, but the human cost for the women leading them is becoming entirely too high. It makes you wonder why any actress would ever want to put on a cape when the reward is just being turned into a psychological punching bag for the internet. Then again, serves them right I guess?π (Please be kind to the chuds in the comments. They truly don't know any better. Pity them)"
It's weird how they recognize that the chuds make up the majority of their market but still insist on spiting them, then get upset when their products bomb. Of course, OP in comments is repeating the cope about the chuds brainwashing normies into not watching it
Nicholas Piff Peterson | Facebook - "It genuinely terrifies me that Supergirl only made $3.6 million domestically at the box office on Friday, July 3 — just a week after opening. That kind of brutal second-weekend drop after a soft $37–38 million debut is absolutely scary and shows how quickly audience interest faded. For a big-budget DC movie like this, those numbers are alarming and raise serious questions about the long-term health of the franchise. It’s terrifying to think we might not get a Supergirl 2 or any real continuation for Millie Alcock’s version because the studio could see this as too risky moving forward. Superhero fatigue is real, and when even promising new entries struggle this much this fast, it makes you worry about the future of these characters on the big screen. Here’s hoping the full run and word-of-mouth can salvage something, but right now the outlook feels pretty bleak."
These are the people who go on about white fragility. It seemed like in every other post, he was saying he was "terrified" by some trivial nonsense like this
