The New Republic was done so dirty in the sequel trilogy. : r/StarWars - "Rarely is an organization in cinema made to look so utterly dumb and incompetent unfortunately. Besides the general lack of information the movies give on the background of the war between the First Order and the New Republic. So the FO somehow managed to build up a huge military machine under the noses of the New Republic and the New Republic did nothing. While the FO were actively invading planets. And the only explanation we are given for this is that the New Republic was corrupt and the military industrial complex was supplying both sides. Okay. But that does not explain why the New Republic does literally nothing against the FO at all. After all, that same situation already happened during the Clone Wars. Hell, the Trade Federation maintained a seat on the council duirng the Clone Wars WHILE actively supplying the Separatists with ships and battle droids. And it did not stop the Republic from actively opposing the Separatists. The only ones that oppose the First Order is Leia and her Resistance. Basically a non-government militia group. All because the directors desperately wanted to force the plot into this Rebels vs Empire/David vs Goliath situation. Even though it made no logical sense within the context of the overall plot. And how did the First Order manage to build a planet sized superweapon without anyone finding out? Does the New Republic not have any sort of military intelligence services? But okay, the FO use the Starkiller Base and destroy the New Republic capital system. And then the New Republic just gives up... And the Resistance remains the one ones actively opposing the FO. And the explanation we are given for this is that the New Republic was intimidated by the power of Starkiller base into surrendering. But why?!! The Starkiller base was destroyed not half an hour after it fired. Whatever intimidation factor it presented is gone. There is no logical reason for the remainder of the New Republic NOT to now declare war on the First Order. Again, the New Republic is made to look incompetent and cowardly, in order to force the plot into a David vs Goliath situation that mirrors the original trilogy. Even though it makes no sense. It made sense when it was the Rebels against a galaxy spanning Empire. But it makes no sense when it is a galaxy spanning Republic against what is essentially a terrorist group. The New Republic has been marginalized to such a degree that even if you remove it from the story entirely, the overall story barely changes at all! In fact, the story would make MORE sense if the New Republic did not exist and the Starkiller base destroyed some Resistance homeworlds instead."
The New Republic was done so dirty in the sequel trilogy. : r/StarWars - "Even worse. The New Republic actually voted to completely dismantle its military (under the leadership of bloody Chancellor Mon Mothma no less). Wtf is this stupidity of eliminating their own military knowing that there are still plenty of Imperial loyalists just biding their time to strike?!?"
"Wow, that's a character assassination of Mon. Can we please just declare the sequels non-canon?"
"I'd feel bad for the actors, but Abrams' creative bankrupcy and allergy to world building have done serious damage to the franchise. Even good projects like Andor suffer because you know what all those characters did was for nothing. In another franchise that could fit, but it's just way too cynical for Star Wars to go "in the end all the heroes failed at everything they tried and then died of old age.""
The New Republic was done so dirty in the sequel trilogy. : r/StarWars - "Now just remember all the effort and sacrifice it took for the rebellion to overthrow the Empire shown in three movies a spinoff and a TV series, all that so the new republic would fall so easily in a pathetic way with all those dumb faces looking up like “oh we’re gonna die why”"
"yeah, this didn’t make any sense, especially after the world wide reaction to the 9-11 attack. If a terrorist faction bombed Washington DC, London and Paris, I guess everybody would just shrug and go, “oh well, guess they are the boss now…”"
The New Republic was done so dirty in the sequel trilogy. : r/StarWars - "But when we’re talking about the mainline movies, they have to hold up on their own without a bunch of armchair lore being explained to back them up. On screen, this looks like a hunch of characters we’ve never seen before (we were supposed to know who they are but scenes were cut), dying to symbolically undo the original trilogy’s entire payoff. It’s about 7 seconds that totally disrespects the OT"
The New Republic was done so dirty in the sequel trilogy. : r/StarWars - "Unpopular but I have absolutely no patience for people who say shit like “well this random tie-in novel addresses a 400 million dollar movie’s glaring plot hole” The movie needs to stand on its own"
The New Republic was done so dirty in the sequel trilogy. : r/StarWars - "As a person who studies media, mostly film and TV, it does make me chuckle when people like you use the term "media literacy" and use it wrong. Media literacy is about how people take a message away from a film and what they do with it. Just because you align something in the ST with something else in your life, doesnt mean someone else takes the same meaning. Media literacy implies independant critical thinking of a subject and is meant to allow freedom of though. Everyone has a different experience so the way they percieve something will be different. You see how the ST is about fans who dont like it, while others may see it differently. You lack the foresight to allow an open discussion as does anyone who uses the term media literacy in order to justify their point being correct."
Meme - "Your face when some uppity sexist male pilot tries to mansplain space-war tactics, when your liberal arts degree clearly qualifies you to command a space battle group *Admiral Holdo/Admiral Gender Studies*"
thatstarwarsgirl on X - "Watched Andor season 2 & yep it’s real. An imperial officer tries to grape Bix. Using the power dynamic that she’s an illegal & he can deport her. It’s beyond fucking retarded & doesn’t belong in Star Wars"
Instagram - "Puppeteer and filmmaker Frank Oz brings Yoda to life in this clip from Light & Magic, now streaming on @DisneyPlus."
Meme - "EVERY STAR WARS FILM IS MISTITLED
EPISODE I - The Phantom Menace > THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
EPISODE II - Attack of the Clones > REVENGE OF THE SITH
EPISODE Ill - Revenge of the Sith > ATTACK OF THE CLONES
EPISODE IV - A New Hope > RETURN OF THE JEDI
EPISODE V - Empire Strikes Back > THE FORCE AWAKENS
EPISODE VI - Return of the Jedi > THE LAST JEDI
EPISODE VII - The Force Awakens > THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
EPISODE VIII - The Last Jedi > A NEW HOPE
EPISODE IX - The Rise of Skywalker > THE PHANTOM MENACE"
Han Solo: "He's out of line but he's right"
Andor should have been a Game of Thrones-size hit – why isn’t it? - "Star Wars has, it seems, lost its magnetism. Disney has fumbled its multibillion-dollar baby; now all it can do is watch as it drifts off into space. Think back not to such a long time ago, or indeed a galaxy far, far away, but to Los Angeles in the autumn of 2018. It was in November that year that Disney first announced Andor. At the time, it seemed like the folly of a studio drunk on its own hype, the worst sort of franchise bloat: a superfluous prequel to an already-rather-superfluous prequel, spinning off a character that didn’t really “pop” in the first place. At the time, Disney was going all in on Star Wars, trying to expand it into a Marvel-style cross-medium universe. Over the course of a few years, a slew of films were announced, many of which never came to fruition, alongside a run of TV series. The quality of the Star Wars streaming slate varies wildly, from the genuinely fun (The Mandalorian seasons one and two) to the middling but turgid (Obi-Wan Kenobi; The Acolyte) to the downright abominable (The Mandalorian season three; The Book of Boba Fett). Andor is so far ahead of these series – on pretty much every level of craft – that there’s little point in comparing them. But the sheer glut of unremarkable Star Wars content has done Andor no favours whatsoever: it has been dismissed by association. Disney had, in other words, bitten off more than it could chew(bacca)."
Time to shame the fans again, repeatedly, until they start watching once more
JJ Abrams was the absolute worst choice for the sequel trilogy. : r/StarWars - "While there’s a lot of blame to go around for the total mess the sequel trilogy turned into(and I would generally blame the Disney execs for wanting a completely original trilogy as soon as possible that ignored the EU and Lucas treatment), handing over the reigns to JJ was one of the worst choices Disney made. Firstly, he made no secret of the fact that he hated the prequels. That’s fine, they’re by no means considered sci-fi classics, and it was something that made many people hopeful that we’d get a better film because of it. But there’s loads of things that SW fans liked about the prequels - the worldbuilding/expansion of the galaxy and how it felt as a place(this wasn’t limited to the 3 films, there were some excellent TV projects and games set before the OT around that time that helped). JJ ignoring anything from the PT - to the point where they had to move the galactic republic to a new planet because Disney wouldn’t let him destroy Coruscant - made it feel completely disconnected from the place the previous films took place in. He didn’t seem to think much of the OT either considering he was essentially happy to disregard the work they put in to ending the empire and get it back to the status quo immediately. In general he has no patience for setting up a story and following through(the empire are just back, Rey simply knows they force) which is terrible for a sci-fi epic like Star Wars because it stops feeling like a real, functional place. He also seems to really struggle with how big space is - a base that can destroy multiple star systems at once that would be light years away stretches credibility even in the Star Wars universe. He had a similar problem in ST2009 with a supernova that “would threaten the entire galaxy”. I thought TFA was a fun movie when I saw it but really it’s clear that the ST never really had a chance to be a satisfying trilogy, and JJ is one of the biggest issues with them."
To This Day I Do Not Understand how THIS GUY can be the spy : r/StarWars - "If only Hux had access to tons of resources to try to assassinate Kylo...oh wait."
"No man we needed to have a slow wounded battle cruiser chase plot in a universe with hyperspace engines and automatic repair robots. But also some of the crew take a lifeboat to have a casino heist sub plot."
"I'm still confused how they even had time for the subplot. Even with FTL capabilities, it still takes time to get to the planet, find who they had to, convince them to help and fly back all in less than 18 hours. That's assuming everything goes smoothly which it didn't."
"I was a defender of TLJ, but more and more I dislike that whole subplot, especially when the result of their goofy adventure is failure and the ships that were escaping are picked off, killing a lot of people."
"I was a defender of TLJ as well and I rewatched it recently and it's actually just awful in almost every way. I don't know what I was smoking."
"But as Rose literally said, it wasn’t worth it…until she took the bridle off the horse thing, then it was worth it."
To This Day I Do Not Understand how THIS GUY can be the spy : r/StarWars - "Oh no, that's all Abrams. He loves a mystery box, but when he actually has to put something interesting in the box he starts grasping at straws. All sizzle, no steak."
To This Day I Do Not Understand how THIS GUY can be the spy : r/StarWars - "The thing about subverting people's expectations is that the thing they get has to be just as, if not better than the thing they were expecting, otherwise it's just another name for a letdown."
To This Day I Do Not Understand how THIS GUY can be the spy : r/StarWars - "subverting expectations for the sake of subverting expectations is shit storytelling and the reason why so many modern movies and shows are trash. Audiences are better able to predict stories so writers and producers feel they need to throw in 50 million twists to make sure they dont."
Why Do Stormtroopers Have These Small Plates With 0ll on Their Back? - "As a Star Wars fan myself, I’ve always been intrigued by a particular feature of the Stormtrooper armor – the ‘OII’ plates on their backs... These plates house a power pack and a small air supply."
You ever think about how Luke gave Jabba the Hutt more chances to do the right thing than his own nephew? : r/StarWars
"I’ll never get the decision to make Kylo a Vader fanboy when the ghost of Vader could actually show up and tell him to stop being an asshole any time"
Meme - "You know that Disney Star Wars is in trouble when they start stealing from Spaceballs *Rey Last Jedi cave scene* *Spaceballs Now scene*"
Daisy Ridley takes social media break after gun violence post - "Daisy Ridley has left Instagram, and taken a break from social media after a backlash for sharing a post about victims of gun violence"
From 2016. Of course, all the fandom haters claimed that it was due to Star Wars fans bullying her, and that they were the fandom menace
Meme - "*Jake Lloyd* Quit acting due to bullying for his role as Anakin
By classmates, not fans
*Ahmed Best* Nearly committed suicide over backlash to Jar-Jar Binks
By media, not fans. Never mentioned until 2019.
*John Boyega* Endured boycott of the movies just for being cast
Not boycott: Fans were confused because Stormtroopers were supposed to be clones
*Kelly Tran* Deleted her Instagram account due to harassment
No evidence presented. Kelly never claims this in any interview.
*Daisy Ridley* Deleted her Instagram account due to harassment
No evidence presented. Daisy never claims this in any interview.
*George Lucas* Sold his franchise becouse making them wasn't fun anymore
No evidence presented. George never claims this in any interview.
I think this is why Kylo Ren is such an interesting vilain He's a whiny, selfish, old school worshiping, angry cosplayer
This argument was only made by shills after The Last Jedi tanked
And when he throws tantrums, that's DISNEY saying...
Mickey Mouse holding up mirror: THIS IS YOU.
Again, this argument only surfaced after two movies"
When you hate fans so much you blame them for everything, including what the media did
Ironically, in Kelly Tran's article, she only blames the media for making her feel bad, not fan "harassment"
Meme - "padme_the_pornstar.jpg
>noooo Anakin, you can't be attracted to me, you are a Jedi and I'm a senator
>now please excuse me, I must change into something more alluring to look more like a luxury escort while I continue why we can't be together
what was her problem?"
Meme - "No wonder they kept letting Cassian leave Yavin. Every time he returned they gained a new hottie
*Bix Caleen, Mon Mothma, Kleya Marki, K-2S0, Jyn Erso*"
Meme - *Kombucha Girl*
Disney: "Calling it Slave One"
Disney: "Rape"
On sexual assault in Andor
Weird Al’s Phantom Menace Parody ‘The Saga Begins’ Was Recorded a Month Before the Film Released, Managed to Almost Exactly Piece Together the Plot by Researching Rumours Posted on Star Wars Fan Forums - "We all know Weird Al Yankovic is a musical genius when it comes to parodies, but did you know he actually pieced together the entire plot of The Phantom Menace before the movie even hit theaters? And he did it without an early screening or any insider knowledge from Lucasfilm... Of course, there were a few minor inaccuracies. For instance, the song suggests that Anakin was already a Jedi when he first met Padmé, when in reality, he was still just a kid on Tatooine. But let’s be honest—getting 99% of the plot correct just from internet rumors? That’s next-level dedication."
Why did Luke go to Ahch-To for his exile? He said he went to "the most unfindable place in the galaxy", but why does "the most unfindable place in the galaxy" have a map leading directly to it in his droid and is literally the first place his friends, family, and enemies think to look? : r/StarWars - "TFA: Luke Skywalker disappeared and is looking for the first jedi temple, his droid has information that leads to him
TLJ: Actually Luke doesn't want to be found but left a trail in his droid, go figure
Edit: yes I'm incorrect in suggesting Luke left a trail in the droid, I apologize."
Disney’s hermit is not my Luke Skywalker | Facebook - "One of the saddest results of Disney’s sequel SW trilogy is there’s no sign of continued relevance. They’ve been over for nearly six years now and almost exclusively the only way I see them referenced is in fans wishing they’d just be discarded. Kids don’t watch them and largely seem barely aware of their existence; this is a first in the series. Even though the prequels were hated by older Gen Xers in particular, younger Gen Xers and Millennials grew up with them and understood them despite seriously questionable directorial decisions—not so with the sequels; they’re now just irrelevant."
Meme - "Can we please talk about the irony of the slave leia costume? It is undoubtedly THE most popular star wars costume amongst women, yet Disney is determined to bury it. What's ironic is that its not men pushing it. Its women themselves who get into Star Wars and choose to wear it. No one's forcing them. They just like wearing something thats fun, iconic and sexy Far more women choose the slave Leia outfit over dressing like Rey"
Meme - "Critics: It's gross how Star Wars sexualizes woman, but not men
What they see: *Slave Leia, midriff-baring Padme in arena, Aayla Secura*
What they don't see: Shirtless Anakin, Sexy AF Obi-Wan, Half Naked Watto, Thicc Palpatine, Fully Naked Jabba, Shredded Dexter, Bare Chewbacca, Sleeveless Jar-Jar, Smoking Hot Grievous"
Did anyone else think Holdo was going to be a traitor? : r/StarWars - "I saw The Last Jedi in theaters when it came out, and the entire movie I thought Amilyn Holdo was going to be a twist villain who would be a minor threat in Episode 9 for a pretty long part of the movie actually. I thought the reason she didn't tell Poe her plan was because her plan would be too obviously a trap, and that the reason the First Order was tracking the Resistance through hyperspace is because she was leaking them the coordinates. And I really thought the reveal would be during the bit where she was like "Yeah, I'll stay behind on this ship alone while you sneak off onto this planet. Yep! I'll definitely die here." Before she'd turn around and be like "Haha I Did It!" Anyway, I was wrong, but I can't be the only one who thought this, right?"
"Poe was literally the one they entrusted to get the “map to Luke Skywalker” and now he’s suddenly thought of as a spy lol. Still can’t believe the trilogy didn’t have a storyboard or arc"
Did anyone else think Holdo was going to be a traitor? : r/StarWars - "The problem is, if your fleet is slowly being gunned down, and you are doing nothing but sitting around and watching it happen, there will be a mutiny. You have to relay that there is a plan other than slowly all dying from encroaching enemy forces if you are to have your forces continue to fight. Otherwise you will have troops fleeing (which was what Rose had to be deployed to stop), and possibly have your troops mutiny in an attempt to come up with their own survival plan. This is why the 6th Army surrendered at Stalingrad, because even though high command told them not to, without any plan of rescue, they had no hope of survival if they continued to fight. Hell Holdo’s plan wasn’t even implemented well. The fleet didn’t have the fuel to all make it to their destination, so all of the fuel should have been siphoned off to two ships so that they could make it there rather than only one making it because two didn’t have enough fuel. The A Team has less convoluted plans than Holdo."
Meme - Obi-Wan Kenobi: "I'M WARNING YOU, DARTH. IF YOU STRIKE ME DOWN I SHALL BECOME MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE."
Darth Vader: "YEAH, FORCE GHOST. I KNOW."
Obi-Wan Kenobi: "YOU... YOU DO?"
Obi-Wan Kenobi: "WELL THEN, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN'T KILL ME!"
Darth Vader: "I DON'T NEED TO." *cuts his hands off*
Obi-Wan Kenobi: "AHHH! HOLY SHIT!"
Darth Vader: ""FREEZE HiM IN CARBONITE, KEEP HIM ALIVE. FOREVER."
Obi-Wan Kenobi: "SHIT SHIT SHIT, WAIT."
