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Monday, June 30, 2025

Left Wingers' Bad Faith Arguments

Arguing with left wingers, you realise that at some level, they know that they're lying.

Here is a relatively compact example:

A: KanekoaTheGreat: "It's wild how progressives openly embrace racism"
"Mamdani says 'white neighborhoods' should pay higher property taxes. THE PRICE IS WHITE"

B: Where did he say that though?

A: *pastes screenshot from his manifesto where he says it*
"shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods"

B: Again where did HE say this?
This is just a meme that could have literally been put together by anyone.
Reverse image search just shows this coming from random twitter posts.

Me: This took me 1 minute to find https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iGn9ws9Ds0x_3kkB1tdM2pxLlbkPtT0k/view?pli=1 (Ed: Homeowner Policy Memo)

It's linked from https://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform So you can't use the cope that it's a fake document

B (within less than an hour, IIRC it was within a few minutes): Now read the whole thing instead of taking shit out of context. It explains why “white neighborhoods” are mentioned.
Oh, what’s the matter? Struck a nerve?

Me: I love the super quick pivot once your original cope was proven to be bs
Cope 

 

This also happens with DEI, where I've repeatedly seen left wingers first insist that there's no proof that DEI discriminates against white straight men, then when presented with evidence that it does, will usually immediately pivot and either justify or dismiss this discrimination (i.e. "this is not happening, and it's good that it is"); I had a good albeit relatively protracted example that I couldn't screenshot in time before the thread got deleted. I'm sure eventually another example will turn up.

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