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Wednesday, May 14, 2025

Links - 14th May 2025 (2 - Canadian Federal Election 2025)

NDP MPs will have 'difficult discussions' about devastating election result - "Kwan said she frequently heard two reasons from voters as to why they wouldn’t support the NDP. The first was that party members felt betrayed by the NDP’s extended support for Justin Trudeau’s minority government. Singh signed a supply and confidence agreement with the Liberals to support them on confidence votes in exchange for two new social programs: dental care and national pharmacare. (Pharmacare has yet to roll out after stalling at the preliminary stage.) “People felt that we should not have worked with the Liberal government in achieving those wins,” she said.  “There’s an element there where people felt the trust was breached.”  The second was fear of U.S. President Donald Trump’s threats of annexation and tariffs that pushed them towards either the Liberals or the Conservatives... Gazan also cited fear of the rise of “extremism” in the U.S. as a reason people shifted away from the NDP towards the Liberals and Conservatives."

NDP talking to the Carney government about getting official party status: Davies - "Monk said the NDP needs to focus on reconnecting with Canadians and being seen as a party that talks about more than just health care. "I think that New Democrats somehow have lost their way over the last few years, where they are no longer the answer to Canadians' economic problems, or haven't been," she said. "The scope of the issue set that New Democrats have to do well ... has to go beyond just health care and the care industry. It has to include economics, it has to include international relations and defence. We have to do well on all those fronts." Davies said his priorities for Parliament include advocating for more "truly" affordable housing, expanding health care access and creating "good jobs." Davies agreed that the NDP needs to reconnect with working class Canadians. In the election, the NDP lost its Ontario foothold in industrial and manufacturing cities like Hamilton, London and Windsor. "We have to go back and I think re-establish our working relationship with working Canadians, with organized labour, with gig workers, young people, people working in every sector of the economy," Davies said. He said answering why that connection with working Canadians was lost will be part of the party's post-election review process and he doesn't want to "prejudge" those conversations."
Oddly, he didn't mention anything about wokeness, probably because he wants to keep up the illusion that they are still a Workers' Party

GOLDSTEIN: ‘One and done’ isn’t working for the Conservatives - "Before the Conservatives decide Pierre Poilievre’s political fate, they should consider how their “one and done” approach of dumping their leader after one election loss, ever since Stephen Harper was defeated in 2015, has worked out for them... the choice now facing the Conservatives is whether Poilievre gives them the best chance of winning the next election, or whether they should seek a new leader in hopes he or she will repeat Trudeau’s electoral success in 2015. This is in light of Poilievre’s failure to win this election, as had been widely expected, although he did significantly improve Conservative party standings and the popular vote. In making that decision, the Conservatives should consider that their most successful and only prime minister in the last two decades was Harper, who was given a second chance to defeat the Conservatives after losing his first attempt in the 2004 election."
Of course, left wingers keep claiming that the road to success is to have a Liberal clone, when that didn't work twice before, because they are just being disingenuous and want the Conservatives to lose

KLEIN: A country divided: Canada's crisis is just beginning - "Across the country, the signs were there — literally. People were afraid to place a sign on their own lawn. Why? Because in 2025, in Canada, supporting the “wrong” political party risks provoking verbal, physical, and even financial attacks. We’ve witnessed signs being ripped up, vandalized, and burned. We’ve observed rallies where people shout insults and push each other as if it were a schoolyard brawl. And the politicians? They didn’t lead — they fuelled the division. Scare tactics were the order of the day. Threats of American soldiers crossing our borders. Warnings of Trumpism invading Canada. Fear, not facts. All while the real threats — Russian and Chinese ships in our northern waters — were ignored. After nine years of Justin Trudeau, this country was already badly split. Now, following this election, it may be worse. For what? After all the chaos, all the division, we’re right back where we started. Another Liberal minority government and deepening division between East and West Canada. Mark Carney now has a chance to show he is different from Justin Trudeau. He has a chance to bring the country together, make life more affordable for all Canadians, and focus on Canada first... Who could help the Liberals bring the country together? The Bloc doesn’t care about Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, B.C., or the Maritimes. It cares about one thing: Squeezing what it can for Quebec. And the NDP were devastated this election, notably for propping up the Liberals for years. Would it be wise for them to play the same game?... Alberta and Saskatchewan aren’t bluffing. The anger is real. Danielle Smith isn’t talking about Alberta’s “Sovereignty Act” for nothing. Scott Moe isn’t pushing for Saskatchewan First legislation because it’s trendy. They’re responding to real outrage, because people in their provinces are tired of being treated like second-class citizens. Meanwhile, the problems that crush working Canadians every day are still here — and getting worse. Inflation is hammering family budgets. Food banks are breaking records. The Canadian Medical Association says 6.5 million Canadians don’t have a family doctor. In Manitoba alone, there are 346 vacant physician jobs. The economy is bleeding from self-inflicted wounds. What does Ottawa focus on? Another new tax. Not on foreign polluters — but on Canadians. Mark Carney’s plan for “carbon tariffs” will drive up the price of everything, from the clothes on your back to the groceries on your table. You think your bills are high now? Just wait... We had a chance to change course. Canadians wanted it, but we let American fear-mongering shape our election. Was it deliberate? Was it by design? When you control another country’s fear, you control their future. Now here we sit — divided, vulnerable, and paralyzed. This can’t go on."

Tasha Kheiriddin: A national unity crisis is brewing - "what he’s really won is a poisoned chalice, which will make “standing up for Canada” a Herculean task. At the time Elections Canada paused counting early Tuesday morning, with a handful of ridings still too close to call, Carney’s Liberals were leading or elected in 168 ridings, just short of the 172 needed for a majority. To survive, Carney will have to dance with the Bloc Québécois (23 seats) or cobble together support from the seven NDP MPs and Green Party veteran Elizabeth May. All three potential allies lean hard left, notably on the environment, crushing the possibility of nation-building projects like pipelines and nuclear-powered energy corridors. Carney’s vision for boosting Canada’s economy and securing energy independence now looks like a dead letter. The Bloc and Greens oppose fossil fuel development, and the NDP will demand social spending first, last, and always... A Liberal government propped up by either separatists or a coalition of eco-socialists will not sit well in Alberta, Saskatchewan, or British Columbia. Western Canada already felt alienated before. Now, the discontent threatens to harden into full-blown separatist sentiment. Calls for greater provincial autonomy — or outright secession — will grow louder, particularly if Carney is forced to kill energy infrastructure projects to placate his partners. Alberta Premier Danielle Smith will howl at every opportunity — and U.S. President Donald Trump will only be too happy to fan the flames of discontent to achieve his dream of making Canada his “cherished 51st state.” In short, a national unity crisis is brewing — one we haven’t seen the likes of in a generation. Unless Carney finds a way to get the West on board, his dream of building a stronger, greener, wealthier Canada may be smothered before it even begins."

Liberals prove they're the 'natural governing party' after all - "Only a party that is the default choice of the Canadian electorate could trail in the polls by 26 percentage points in January and go on to win an election in April. Only the natural governing party could win seats in Alberta and Saskatchewan after spending the better part of a decade systematically kneecapping their economies.   Only a party that engenders blind trust among voters could convince people that the team responsible for Canada’s failing economic health are actually those best suited to fix the problems they created; that a government that’s tried the same things over and over again for the past 10 years is actually the party of change; and that a leader who made a career out of trying to keep fossil fuels in the ground is the guy who’s going to develop Canada’s natural resources. Over the next four years, no one should act surprised when they find makeup on their pork chops. Prime Minister Mark Carney was slathered over the Grits like lipstick on a pig, and judging by the party’s election platform, they’re going to be rolling in the same pile of manure they’ve been in for years.  After literally doubling the national debt to deal with the COVID pandemic, the Liberals are now basking in the joy of another crisis — this one caused by U.S. President Donald Trump’s upending of the postwar liberal economic order and odd infatuation with his northern neighbours — that was sent to them like manna from heaven.   Not only did Trump boost their political fortunes, handing them a fourth-consecutive mandate, he provided them an excuse to continue indulging in pork-barrel politics and centralizing the Canadian economy. Carney didn’t even try to hide the fact that he’s planning on increasing spending by $130 billion over his term in office, or around $32 billion a year. And don’t believe his talk about balancing the budget within three years — that was nothing but smoke and mirrors right from the start... when businesses and individuals invest money, they expect a return on their investment; when government “invests” in a bridge, it doesn’t get any money from it, just the added cost of maintaining it.  And given that these “investments” with no rate of return are all being financed through debt that’s already costing us $54 billion a year to service and that will have to be paid by our children and grandchildren, one doesn’t need to be Warren Buffett to see that the analogy doesn’t hold up — or that we’ll pay for these reckless decisions in the long run. But Canada’s Liberals are not the type of people who consider long-term consequences or plan for the future. For them, it’s all about the here and now — what policies will give them an edge among niche segments of the electorate or make them look good in the eyes of their progressive base.   To be fair, the same could be said of most politicians in democracies like Canada — our system encourages the pursuit of short-term political gain over long-term strategic planning.  But the Liberals have taken this to the extreme over the past decade, enacting a host of measures that clearly worked against our national interests, in the hopes of remaking Canada into some sort of progressive utopia. Only instead of following them into Zion, we wound up falling into the pits of hell.  We’re now living in Trudeau’s “post-national state,” and rather than peace and harmony, it’s characterized by antisemitic protests and the Kristallnacht-style destruction of Jewish businesses and synagogues.  We’ve seen his fabled green jobs, but it’s costing us $44 billion in taxpayer money in order to bribe electric vehicle battery plants to set up shop in Canada.   Indeed, despite the best efforts of Carney and Trudeau, global CO2 emissions have increased around eight per cent since the Liberals took office. And all we got for all the carbon taxes and paper straws was an increased dependency on the United States for our energy exports and a sputtering economy that’s ill-suited to withstand the economic punishment Trump is bringing upon us.  Somehow, despite all this baggage — not to mention SNC-Lavalin, Blackface, We Charity, foreign interference and the myriad other scandals and failed policies the Liberals are responsible for — the party managed to convince enough voters that it was the best choice to revitalize the economy and deal with Trump to secure another mandate.  If that’s not the hallmark of a “natural governing party,” I don’t know what is."

Jamie Sarkonak: Trump's belligerence left Poilievre's campaign no room for error

Trump says 'a Liberal' would be 'easier to deal with' than Poilievre
He knew who he wanted to win and left wingers played into his hands, as usual

Trump knows exactly what he just triggered in Canada - "On the day of Canada's election, the U.S. president was quoted in an interview voicing detailed knowledge of the historic plot-twist he triggered. "You know, until I came along, remember that the Conservative was leading by 25 points," Trump told The Atlantic last week, in an interview published Monday... Canada's Liberals were, in fact, down precisely 24 percentage points at their nadir on CBC's Poll Tracker, on Jan. 6, 2025. Then a couple of things happened. That day, Justin Trudeau announced his resignation as prime minister. A day later, Trump suggested he could use economic force to annex Canada, escalating a campaign of disparagement that put him at the epicentre of the country's politics. The ensuing phenomenon is now political history."

My experience with liberals : r/CanadianConservative - "I am a woman of colour conservative, I can’t even keep count of the number of awkward conversation where my white colleagues felt compelled to corner me and assure me they would vote liberal to “protect my rights”"

My experience with liberals : r/CanadianConservative - "My co worker said she was glad that the Liberals won since now she won't be deported....  Like, these people genuinely think they were voting against Trump"

Meme - Geiger Capital @Geiger_Capital: "Canadian Boomers top election issue was “Donald Trump” and their bottom issue was “Making Canada a better place to live”…  Can’t make it up.
Canadian Gen Z: “I can’t afford food or a house and our country is being flooded with millions of foreigners. My nation is being ripped away from me!”
Canadian Boomers: “Trump is Hitler!”"
"Most Important Factors When Deciding Vote
Reducing your cost of living. 18-29 - 47%. 30-44 - 52%. 45-59 - 48%. 60 and over - 47%
Dealing with Donald Trump. 18-29 - 16%. 30-44 - 26%. 45-59 - 33%. 60 and over - 50%
Making housing more affordable. 18-29 - 28%. 30-44 - 26%. 45-59 - 18%. 60 and over - 9%
Improving Canada's healthcare system. 18-29 - 14%. 30-44 - 16%. 45-59 - 17%. 60 and over - 28%
Growing the economy. 18-29 - 23%. 30-44 - 18%. 45-59 - 17%. 60 and over - 13%
Making Canada a better place to live. 18-29 - 22%. 30-44 - 18%. 45-59 - 17%. 60 and over - 12%
Protecting public services. 18-29 - 10%. 30-44 - 9%. 45-59 - 10%. 60 and over - 12%
Managing the federal budget deficit and debt. 18-29 - 9%. 30-44 - 8%. 45-59 - 11%. 60 and over - 12%
Source: Abacus Data"

Majority of Voters Aged 18-54 Voted Conservative but tHe uNiFiCaTiOn oF tHe LeFt DeFeAtEd HiM : r/CanadianConservative - "I always thought younger Canadians were leftists but apparently boomers aged 55+ are now the progressive leftists of Canada that beat Pierre!"
Left wingers like to mock old people (e.g. "ok, boomer") and claim young people are the future and we must listen to them

Meme - MikesMoneyTalks.ca @moneytalkstweet: "Nanos shows who elected the Liberals - the group least impacted by federal debt and interest payments"
"Breakdown by age group.
18-34 years old: 41% for Conservatives, 32% for Liberals
35-54 years old: 46% for Conservatives, 39% for Liberals
55+ years old: 52% for Liberals, 34% for Conservatives"

Karla Joy Treadway on X - "I love that @PierrePoilievre  didn’t make his gay dad, his gay or black or indigenous MPs, his immigrant wife or his child with disabilities the most important thing about the campaign.   He didn’t talk about himself in depth, list his degrees or explain why he knew more than everyone else.   He focused on his policies and what they would do for this country. He focused on Canadians stories and what they were telling him about what they needed.   He didn’t virtue signal or lean on identity politics like liberals do and he didn’t center the campaign around himself. He focused on what Canada as a whole needed.   Pierre had a really honest and unifying campaign message and you could see how he genuinely cared about people of all walks of life.   We were so close to getting a really amazing leader."

Trump says Poilievre's biggest problem is that he's 'not a MAGA guy' - "Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre’s biggest problem is that he’s “not a MAGA guy,” according to U.S. President Donald Trump... “I don’t like what he’s saying about me. It’s just not positive about me,” Trump said to interviewer Ben Domenech."
Clearly, he is Trump lite and if he had won he'd have handed the country over to Trump

Canadians Against Pierre Poilievre | Facebook - "Pierre PoiLIEvre is an aspiring dictator.  Canada doesn’t want, or need, an authoritarian/fascist government,  with right-wing ideologies… as is, south of our border. A vote for any conservative MP, this time around, is a vote for PoiLIEvre. This is not a time to be faithful to your ‘traditional‘ party, for the sake of loyalty alone. There’s a lot more at stake this election, than if ‘the Tories, or Liberals’, get in. The current Conservative party is NOT the party of our parents, or grandparents.  Don’t vote Conservative & Please sign the petition 🇨🇦"
Liberals are really unhinged. "Fascism in a necktie" just shows that they just hate who they are told to hate. So many people claimed he was going to take away healthcare but could not point to anything other than "Conservatives bad"

Omnipotent D on X - "What fucking country calls an emergency election because the government is so bad, only to vote the same fucking government in. Canada is cooked. Fuck you Ontario and Quebec"

Meme - "Boomer liberal voter clinging to 600% home equity gains while grandkids can't afford rent. *Brantford Boomer*"

Carney legit fooled people. : r/CanadianConservative - "As a Quebecer I can confirm the Quebecois “heritage” is already being erased by mass immigration. Quebecers are the most easily influenced people on the planet. French media propped up carney so they voted liberal. They think and act how the French msm tells them to. It’s a province of sheep.  We have the worst healthcare in the country and probably the western world. Worst roads in America. Most bureaucracy for construction industry. Highest taxes in North America (with the worst services) the government owns the weed, alcohol and gambling they also have a powerhouse in hydro Quebec yet we run the largest deficit in the country. Ironically Quebec receives the highest equalization payments when it should be one of the richest Provinces.  French politician and media drove out the wealthy investors because of “heritage” and sent many business to Ontario and US. (Montreal used to be the largest city in Canada).  Crime is through the roof here too but it’s not being reported properly by the msm in order to give these people false hope in tricking them into believing things are not so bad.  Quebecers will never learn. All everyone has talked about the past few months is trump while this province is headed down the drain. They couldn’t have done everyone in the country a favor (who has been keeping us alive by sending us money) by at least voting fucken Bloc. Sorry for the rant but can’t stand this place anymore. Looks like the separatist party may be back in power next year. I hope they separate only to have Trump invade them and make them a US state."

Thread by @jonkay on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App - "In light of the endless Canadian nationalist chest-thumping that dominated this election, it’s ironic that the main long-term effect may well be to tip Canada into something resembling a US-style two-party system. (Can’t say this is a bad thing given what an absolute joke the NDP & Green parties have become under Singh and May) I don’t really write about partisan politics (except for random barbs on social media) and have no deep thoughts to offer about the election results. If Kamala Harris had won the US election, and the Libs hadn’t been able to cynically reinvent themselves as red-and-white face-painted jingoists, Poilievre would now be PM. But politics is full of this kind of randomness. It’s part of the business…. In general, I found the whole campaign season kind of depressing because it just proved how shallow & unstable Canada’s national identity really is. The Liberals went from the party of teary self-lacerating teddy-bear genocide-graveyard post-nationalism to flag-waving jingoists in the space of months, & tried to pretend both personas were authentic. For the most part, our media went along with it. I can’t think of any other country that changes masks like this at the drop of a hat (or writ, as it were)…. The manic flag-waving shtick of the last few months disguises the fact that our national identity is still utterly dependent on our insecurities regarding the US…. as much now as back in the 1990s, when Sheila Copps and other Libs babbled about “soft power” and the evils of American cultural nationalism….. That said, I’m kind of sanguine about Carney’s victory, despite my jaded take on his campaign. The Libs seem to have finally soured on Trudeau’s social justice clown show to some extent, and at least we won’t have to watch Carney get teary, take a knee, denounce his own country as a bastion of white supremacy etc. Nor will we have to watch hashtag rodeo clowns like Marci Ien parade drag queens through parliament and other college rainbow-club stunts… that era (one hopes) is over …. In fact, now that Carney has disavowed the carbon tax and the Libs have walked-back come-one-come-all immigration policies, I think a Carney govt may well be fine. The idea that he’s some pawn of the WEF (or “globalists” in general) always struck me as ludicrous. He’ll keep funding the CBC and other money pits, but he won’t destroy the country. Small mercies"

Dean Blundell🇨🇦 on X - "I don't think Canadians truly appreciate how down Pierre Poilievre is right now.
- His iron fist of influence over the party he leads is GONE
- He's openly being challenged by members who used to be petrified of him and Jeni Byrne (Jenni might have lost more than PeePee)
- CPC board is refusing to commit to him in any capacity going forward - He's jobless and has to move out of Stornoway
- His salary and 20k a day operating expenses? Poof.
- Former corporate supporters are furious with him and Jeni for literally blowing a 30-point lead and with it, their influence over his policies
- His provincial counterparts are openly mocking him and Jenni Byrne, disclosing secret conversations and actions that lead to Pierre's collapse.
- He hasn't tweeted since he lost and is trying desperately to find a riding to run it to stay in Stornoway, and no one is taking his calls.
And I can't stop laughing."
Left wingers keep alleging, when people disagree with them, that "the cruelty is the point". As usual, they are projecting and this is the best example

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