Why do children of immigrants dislike immigrants? : r/Economics - "Chalking it up to wanting others to have it hard because you did is a smarmy progressive tactic. The point is fairness. If I have to pass a test, one of which I prepared for over years and made sacrifices, then you come along and the govt gives you the benefit of passing the test without the work and sacrifice, the is deeply unfair. Whether it’s the government, a business, a sports team, a family member, or any other power structure, arbitrarily choosing winners and losers is deeply unpopular and everyone, the benefactors and those that had to do the work, know it is unfair. Doing otherwise destroys the effectiveness and relationships of groups."
If you were acquitted of murder, you must support acquitting everyone accused of murder, or you're a hypocrite
Why do children of immigrants dislike immigrants? : r/Economics - "What? I'm a first generation American and I have never once felt or have been treated like a second class citizen and have 0 fear of being deported. The majority of the time I hear people say shit like that, it is because they have a "white savior" complex. Some people on the right may be assholes, but some people on the left treat people who aren't white like they are retarded babies."
Why do children of immigrants dislike immigrants? : r/Economics - "I read that people who think like this are known to exhibit a kind of black and white thinking, where if someone else is better off, I have to be worse off. It’s a zero-sum state of mind. No surprise, these types of people vote Republican."
Ironic. Left wingers want to "tax the 'rich'" until they are no longer rich, because they blame rich people for others being poor
Thousands attend Australia anti-immigration rallies
Naturally, the establishment is very upset
'I can no longer see a future in the UK': new citizenship guidance shuts out refugees : r/unitedkingdom - "So say India and Pakistan goto war are you happy with 2 billion refugees coming to the UK and to offer them citizenship? Is your compassion unlimited ? Where and when does it end. Refugee status is or should be offering people a refuge until they can return home, I’m sure he’s a really nice man but there has to be a line drawn somewhere otherwise yours and everyone else’s life here has to change dramatically. Because there will be more wars more climate change more refugees."
Meme - That’s Dublin For Ya: "STOP WHAT YOUR DOING A 17 YEAR OLD CHILD IS MISSING 🙈 Gardaí are seeking the public's assistance in tracing the whereabouts of 17-year-old Suhayb Mohammed Ahmed who was reported missing in Carlow town on Monday 25th August 2025. Suhayb was last seen in the Southern Gardens area at approximately 6:00pm on Monday 25th August. Suhayb is described as being approximately 5 foot 10 inches in height with a medium build, black hair and brown eyes. Gardaí are concerned for Suhayb's well-being. Anyone with information on Suhayb's whereabouts is asked to contact Carlow Garda Station on 059 9136620, the Garda Confidential Line on 1800 666 111, or any Garda station."
*balding man who's definitely not 17*
Meme - Vagrant of Rhodes @vagrantwires: "Liberals "stop being the most insane caricature of themselves" challenge: impossible"
White woman being attacked by 3 exposed men: "OH GOD PLEASE HELP ME! A***"
Liberal eating slop: "MMM!! BUT THEIR FOOD IS SO YUMMY!"
Texas Paul Schroder @Paultx890: "Stop trying to prevent immigrants who want to live and work here from coming. They add so much to our culture. My lunch today. *Birria tacos*"
I’m a migrant – this is the worst thing people say to me - "My go-to response, which is also the one I really believe in, is that I think people fleeing unlivable circumstances in far-flung countries, whether it’s war, poverty, or discrimination, deserve that chance just as much as anyone else. All I can do is hope the other person will agree. But there are times when I find myself dreading what comes next. There is a particular reply that truly makes me squirm and turns my stomach. Even after more than six years of living in this country, having moved here in 2019 as the spouse of a British citizen, these words still get to me: “Well, at least you came here legally”... I’m privileged enough to have come from a middle-class family that could afford to send me to university. From there, I scraped enough money together every year to be able to afford each visa and eventually, citizenship. All I’ve done is hand money over. If everyone had the means to do so, they would. But considering I’ve spent around £10,000 over the last six years, it’s not feasible for most, especially not for those living in countries being ripped apart by war and poverty... A comment I often hear is that legal migrants have to pay to use the NHS, so why should illegal migrants get to use it for free? As someone who has had to pay thousands for the Immigration Health Surcharge over the last six years, I get it – but I also don’t want people who have come here with no money and who aren’t even allowed to work while their claims are being processed to suffer from illness and injury. In my opinion, it’s like refusing to let taxpayer money be used to pay for children to have free school meals. Why not? It’s not the fault of asylum seekers and kids if taxpayer money is being wasted by the government; it’s the latter we should be angry at. We’ve lost sight of our humanity when it comes to conversations like these. Since Brexit, it has somehow become more and more acceptable to use words like “invasion” and “swarm” when referring to immigration, both legal and illegal. It instills fear that infiltrates every community, dividing us further when really, we should be wanting to know each other more deeply. Just for a moment, I hope we allow ourselves to imagine stepping into someone else’s shoes and feel deeply what it might be like. I worry that if we don’t, the “at least you’re legal!” conversations may sour and turn uglier. I fear they already have."
If you don't support open borders, you're a bad person, because Western countries need to provide unlimited social benefits to everyone from the rest of the world. As usual, left wingers don't see any difference between legal and illegal migration
Meme - Booklung @booklung2: "Can we build an island for all the racists to live happily amongst their hateful selves."
Garbage Human @GarbageHuman24: "This is precisely what Australia was for 200 years until blacks and browns decided it was a nice place to live"
Mass migration is creating a new anti-Western underclass - "The “anti-colonial” Left wants Western societies to atone for their “original sins”. From its historical role in slavery, imperialism and the extirpation of native peoples to class oppression, progressives argue that the West should pay penance today by allowing unrestricted mass immigration from the most wretched parts of the earth. Yet mass migration has aroused increasingly fierce opposition throughout the West. This is true not only in the United States, but in other countries with a long history of successful migration, including the UK, the Netherlands and France... There are good, rational reasons for this. Voters who oppose mass migration, including illegal migration, are regularly accused of being racist and xenophobic, or of prioritising their own selfish needs at the expense of economic progress. Yet if you actually look at what is occurring on the ground level, it’s not clear how much of the current wave of mass migration has been economically positive. To be sure, legal immigrants from Europe and Asia enriched Western societies in the past... But these views increasingly reflect nostalgia rather than reality. Countries that have experienced the greatest infusions of new migrants – particularly people applying for asylum or simply hiding from the law – have not tended to benefit economically. Take the UK and Canada. Canada’s rate of immigration has been among the world’s highest. In the year to June 2023, the country of 40 million, received more than a million immigrants, accounting for almost all of the country’s population growth. But despite the influx, Canada over the past decade has suffered some of the slowest economic growth rates of the advanced countries, particularly in terms of GDP per head of population. The UK, which has recently taken considerably more immigrants per capita than the US, is also largely economically stagnant. Rather than an emerging new middle class, many immigrants, even in the US, increasingly struggle. As recently as 1993, immigrants accounted for 14 per cent of the US population living in poverty and, in 1994, only 11 per cent of the poor were non-citizen immigrants; three decades later, immigrants made up almost a quarter of all poor people, and 13.2 per cent of those in poverty were non-citizen immigrants. A combination of a changing economy – manual labour dropped to 22 per cent of all US jobs in 2025 from 35 per cent 50 years ago, for example – and the extension of the welfare state appears to be creating an ever-growing underclass in countries which are already deeply in debt and struggling economically. Today, in large parts of Europe, newcomers have been found to be more dependent on non-contributory welfare than natives. In Spain, the proportion of immigrants from outside the continent, mostly Latin America and Africa, deemed at risk of poverty is roughly three times that of native population. In Canada, one study found that one in five recent immigrants now suffers poverty – defined as an inability to afford goods and services consistent with a modest standard of living – compared to only 10 per cent of the whole population. The massive surge of undocumented migrants, particularly to countries like the United States, has also been seen as an assault on the working class, whatever their ethnicity, given competition for housing and jobs. The prospects for upward mobility – particularly for immigrant groups from poor countries – are further hampered by factors such as dysfunctional schools. Most Western education systems appear to have shifted away from promoting loyalty to the country, towards a focus on indoctrinating students via “decolonised” curricula. Instead of encouraging newcomers to integrate, this is likely to agitate them into despising their host country’s heritage. None of this bothers the bourgeoisie of brownstone Brooklyn, Georgetown and Silicon Valley, the sorts of places where one is most likely to see “no person is illegal” signs. After all, uncontrolled immigration provides cheap nannies for wealthy people, who often now have more kids than the average American. It also serves as the latest cause célèbre for celebrities and self-promoting influencers, who defend undocumented immigrants in fulfilment of their relentless virtue signalling. Many businesses still embrace mass unvetted immigration – much of it illegal – as a source of cheap labour. But they are increasingly losing the argument... People from migrant backgrounds have been well-represented at anti-Israel protests, and supporters of terrorists now harass and intimidate Jews and other citizens in the streets of cities like Amsterdam, Toronto, Los Angeles, London and Paris, all once considered beacons of tolerance. In addition many recent immigrants to the West come from states in Asia and South America with often high rates of violent crime... Immigration could well be a critical factor in re-energising Western economies, but only if policies are crafted not as an exercise in global penance but as something that affirms and enhances the allure of our countries."
A nation of migrants? Well, sort of… | The Spectator Australia - "How often do you hear the cliché that we’re a nation of migrants, except for indigenous Australians? For boosters of large migrant intakes and a big Australia, this is often regarded as their knockout argument. No one can argue against immigration because we are all migrants, one way or another... According to Shields, ‘there is a wealth of evidence that there is little or no link between immigration and challenges such as housing affordability, cost of living and social cohesion.’ Is there really? Where has this wealth of evidence been hiding because I am certainly unaware of its existence? In a similar vein, Herald columnist, Jacqueline Maley, claims that ‘it’s imperative that good-faith politicians reclaim the debate and remind Australians of how indebted we are, culturally and economically, to immigrants.’ I wasn’t aware that Maley had any expertise in economics, but that is not what the literature tells us. One of the main conclusions of that literature is that immigration overwhelmingly benefits the migrants themselves, whereas the net economic benefits are zero or slightly positive. Among the resident population, there are both winners and losers: owners of capital and workers with complementary skills to migrants gain while workers with similar skills are losers. Of course, rhetoricians don’t want to bother too much with facts and serious research findings. This is where the argument that we are a nation of migrants comes in... In the 1890s, the percentage of the Australian population born overseas was over 30 per cent. The source countries at that time were predominantly England, Scotland and Ireland. The proportion fell continuously until after the end of the second world war, reaching a low of just under 10 per cent in 1947. From that point, the percentage of Australians born overseas rose, reaching above 30 per cent in 2024. There were times when the proportion didn’t rise – in the 1970s and in the 1990s – but the overall trend is clear. Today, nearly one-third of those residing in Australia were born overseas and nearly one-half have parents born overseas. Since the 1950s, the source countries have moved around a fair bit... During the first half of the twentieth century, Australia decreasingly became a nation of migrants. After the second world war, the combination of the government’s ‘populate or perish’ policy pursued for national security reasons and the push factor driving many migrants out of the UK and Europe meant that the migrant proportion in the population began to rise and has continued to rise. But here’s another important point to make: the migrants that came in the 1950s and 1960s were very different from the migrants arriving today. For starters, all the migrants in those earlier years were permanent – there was no temporary migration. Most migrants then had only limited contact with their home country and the family and friends they had left behind. There was no WhatsApp or cheap airfares allowing regular visits to their country of birth... Nowadays, it is quite common for English not to be spoken in the homes of migrants. According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, in 2021, nearly a quarter of the population reported speaking a language other than English at home. Some 900,000 individuals also reported not speaking English well. It is now estimated that there are nearly three million people in Australia on temporary visas, up from just under one million at the turn of the century. They include large numbers on student visas as well as those holding graduate visas, working holidaymakers and skilled workers. Many temporary visa holders do not have the right to reside permanently but are able to string out their stay for many years. There has also been a significant uptick in the numbers of temporary visa holders claiming humanitarian status as asylum seekers. While many are knocked back, the process is lengthy and costly for taxpayers. The overwhelming impression is of a badly managed, out-of-control immigration program. The real issue is the excessive migrant intake that is straining resources, be it housing, infrastructure or services. Instead of people coming to this country to join Team Australia, too many now come to be part of Hotel Australia. They don’t necessarily bother to learn English, associate only with their own ethnic group and flit back and forth from the country of their birth. Saying we are a country of migrants is now saying nothing. Its meaning was lost years ago. It has no value in debating appropriate directions for immigration policy."
Riots are now a part of Irish life thanks to the asylum hotels policy - "Another asylum hotel, another allegation of a sexual attack on a child, another riot. That this is in Dublin, where protestors spent the night battling the Gardai, rather than Rotherham or Epping, makes little difference. The images of a Gardai van on fire show that continued government use of asylum hotels is leading to a breakdown in social trust on both sides of the Irish Sea. The case is sadly familiar. An African asylum seeker who was being accommodated at the Citywest Hotel in Dublin is alleged to have seriously sexually assaulted a ten year old girl in the early hours of Monday morning. The girl was in the care of Tusla, Ireland’s agency for child and family care. It comes after Ukrainian refugee Vadym Davydenko, who was only 17 years old, was murdered last week. A Somali asylum seeker was arrested on suspicion of the crime. Davydenko had arrived in Ireland just four days earlier. None of this should have been a surprise. Locals in Saggart held a public meeting earlier this year to complain about the use of the Citywest Hotel for asylum seekers, alleging that it was making the streets unsafe and that the police were failing to tackle the issue or give it the resources it needed. The reaction from many in Ireland’s political establishment was to claim it was the locals at fault: Sinn Fein councillor William Carey was called a “traitor” and forced to leave the stage amidst booing when he branded one local group as “fascists”. The Irish Government seemingly has no confidence that they can end the country’s asylum crisis, with the Citywest Hotel being bought by them for €148 million, turning it from temporary into permanent accommodation. The alleged culprit in this latest case is said to have arrived in Ireland six years ago and failed in his asylum application in 2024. He has been due to be deported since March this year. Nonetheless, seven months later he was still in the country at taxpayer expense, allowing him to allegedly commit this crime. Furious locals have had enough and rioted. Images from last night show Gardai in riot gear under a hail of rocks and glass bottles. Much like the protests in Epping in Essex earlier this year, women have had a prominent role, criticising the police through megaphones. Their presence shows that these protests genuinely represent the local community, rather than being the work of a violent minority. Increasingly, the Irish state is viewed as illegitimate for prioritising the rights of asylum seekers over its own people. Some protestors last night called the Gardai “Black and Tans”, after the British police unit which fought in the Irish War of Independence. People rightly cannot understand why their governments are doing this. They can see that many asylum seekers are really economic migrants, that ordered deportations rarely seem to materialise, and that there is a dangerous minority among the asylum seekers who are impossible to screen out. Until our governments on both sides of the Irish Sea choose to put the safety of their people above the unreasonable demands of international asylum law, there will be more sexual assaults and more violent protests."
Ireland is making a dangerous mistake on immigration - "Ireland’s riot police have been deployed so often in recent years that the image I once had of the Gardaí – the affable local policemen comically embodied by Brendan Gleeson in The Guard – has faded from memory. In its place stand faceless men in body armour and plastic shields, advancing in phalanx along leafy suburban roads towards communities who, it is now clear, no longer see them as policing by consent. Earlier this week, those men were pelted with bricks, glass bottles and even a pram loaded with fireworks as they moved to quell a riot outside a migrant hotel in Dublin. They’d arrived less to police a crime than the backlash to one. The unrest began on Monday when it was reported that an African asylum seeker had allegedly raped a 10-year-old Irish girl. To make matters worse, the suspect had ignored a deportation order, and the assault reportedly took place on the grounds of a state-owned asylum hotel. Each revelation has landed, to an already exasperated Irish public, like another slap from a government that’s long ignored their concerns about immigration. Only this summer, residents claimed they had been “victims of harassment, stalking, violence” since the Citywest Hotel had been purchased by the state and turned into a migrant centre, which now houses 1,600 occupants. One woman said she had “been chased by a group of men home and filmed”, but when she reported this to the guards, they failed to record it. I suspect the fact that the Irish people cannot claim asylum to escape these torments is an irony lost on the Taoiseach, Micheál Martin, who was quick to condemn the violence, but was less forthcoming on his government’s own role in precipitating it. Stories of migrants committing violent and sexual crimes have become wearily familiar. Yet the state continues to deposit thousands of predominantly young men from the world’s most dysfunctional regions around the country. What did it imagine would come of this? Europe has plenty of examples of the results of this kind of policy. Irish leaders need only have glanced at the situation across the Irish Sea. Adding further insult, the Government has declined to vet many of the migrants it has admitted. It’s estimated that around 22,000 illegal migrants have entered Ireland with no passport or criminal background check. When residents complained about hundreds of unvetted men being bussed into their communities, often in the dead of night, they were dismissed as bigots. It is unclear what the state knew about the suspect’s background; residents were right to consider the possibility that gangs of foreign men lingering around town centres might pose a threat. It will come as cold comfort that their fears have now been vindicated, this time at the expense of a child’s safety. If Ireland were a private company charged, as the state is, with the care of vulnerable people, each crime committed by illegal migrants would be deemed criminal negligence. Those raising the alarm about this negligence have had every legal and moral avenue to object effectively closed to them. Leo Varadkar, the former Taoiseach, even told the Irish people they had no right to “veto” who moved into their area, and, having suspended planning laws for migrant facilities, he was technically correct. If democratic channels are out of reach, then protest would appear to be the only alternative."
Ireland's political mainstream is being ripped apart at the seams - "Sinn Fein is now basking in the reflected glory of president-elect Connolly’s victory. Apart from the result, which in time might turn out to be a turning point in Irish political history, there is one other aspect that makes this election literally unique. The number of spoilt votes in Irish elections has always hovered around 1 per cent. In this election, however, the number of spoilt votes was a staggering 13 per cent. The reasons for this inordinately high number can be gleaned from the manner in which some people spoilt their votes. Two common handwritten messages on many spoilt ballot papers read, “Maria Steen No.1” and the more cryptic “She was only 10”. The nomination process for presidential candidates is tightly controlled by the mainstream political parties. Only those who can get the backing of 20 parliamentary representatives or the majority of four county or city councils can run for president. The social conservative, Maria Steen, got 18 parliamentary backers but fell short by two and was excluded from the election. Viewed by her supporters as government censorship of social conservatism, they organised a “Spoil Your Vote” campaign. The other message on some spoilt papers, “She was only 10”, is a reference to an alleged sexual assault on a child by a 26-year-old asylum-seeker of “African origin” staying at a government-owned migrant hotel in West Dublin. The incident happened just days before the vote and there were violent riots outside the hotel when the news broke. Up to 50 per cent of ballot papers in parts of that constituency were spoilt. Not turning up to an election is one thing, but deliberately spoiling ballot papers on this scale is a clear political message from those who feel either disenfranchised or ignored. As in many other countries, failure of the political elites of both Left and Right to respond to these signals only leads to greater political turbulence at a later juncture. A further ominous trend only emerged on Friday. Speaking at her local count centre in Monaghan, the defeated Heather Humphreys, Fine Gael’s Ulster Presbyterian presidential candidate revealed that she had experienced sustained sectarian abuse throughout the campaign. “My family and I, but especially my family, were subjected to some absolutely awful sectarian abuse. I was disappointed, because as a country I thought we had moved on from that.” She said that Unionists in Northern Ireland were shocked by what had happened, telling her: “If that’s what they put you through, Heather, what hope have the rest of us?” If the candidacy of a politically middle-of-the-road Protestant grandmother can so easily stir up sectarianism among supporters of Sinn Fein and the Irish Left, one wonders what lies ahead if president-elect Connolly’s desire for a referendum on Irish unity should come to pass?"
Chris Brunet on X - "Canada ranked 33rd in the world for quality of life this year Down from 5th in 2013"
i/o on X - "Much of this can be laid at the feet of mass immigration. Honest question: How many Western nations have net benefited overall from mass immigration from non-European/Anglosphere and non-East Asian nations? With the possible exception of the US, I can't think of any. If we were to look at only those LEGAL immigrants in the US who are not from Europe/Anglosphere or East Asia, it's likely that there would be a net benefit (South Asian and MENA immigrants, for example, tend to perform quite well). But if we include all immigrants — both legal and illegal — it's a much more difficult case to make. Illegal immigrants are unarguably a net liability."
Rich Raho on X - "Jesus, Mary, and Joseph were migrants too who fled an oppressive regime in order to seek a better life. They serve as the archetype for today’s migrants who look for a new place to call home."
PoIiMath on X - "Jesus, Mary, and Joseph were not "seeking a better life," they were fleeing the guy who wanted to kill Jesus. They went back home 4 years later, after the danger had passed."

