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Friday, December 01, 2023

Links - 1st December 2023 (2 - Palestine/Middle East Peace)

Zach Goldberg on X - "1/Strange. Palestinian Christians face the same oppressive occupation as their Muslim peers, and yet they are consistently vastly less likely to support acts of terrorism against Israeli civilians. Such a mystery. Socioeconomic, geographic, and other demographic variables hardly explain the difference. Again, such a mystery. Wonder what it could be."

MEMRI on X - "Gaza Kindergarten Graduation Ceremony: Kids Stage Mock Military Attack and Hostage-Taking (Archival) #Hamas #Gaza #Palestinians #child_indoctrination"
Damn Jews teaching their children to hate Palestinians!

Imtiaz Mahmood on X - "Islam is the fastest growing religion because:
1. Muslim women remain at home and their only job is to make babies.
2. If you leave Islam, you are apostate and can get killed.
3. Anyone marrying a Muslim must convert to Islam.
4. In West, more children you have, you get more state benefits.
5. A Muslim man is allowed upto 4 wives.
6. Muslims are poorer than the world average. Poorer people tend to have more children.
7. Palestine specific. If one of your children dies in Terrorist activity or as a human shield, you get $1500 plus $350 per month pension for life. So women have 'extra' 'disposable' children. Breeding rate per Gazan woman is 3.34."

Visegrád 24 on X - "Why is it that those who want Israel to be “decolonised” by the Jews and returned to the “indigenous” Palestinians, never call for instance for the countries of the Maghreb to be decolonised and returned by the Arabs to the Berbers?"

Hussain Abdul-Hussain on X - "Factoid: Since 1929, not a single day has passed without Arabs killing, or trying to kill, Jews. Even during peak peace (1993 Oslo-2000), Hamas never stopped suicide bombings. Will leave this here for those who argue that Arabs/Palestinians tried peace, but were always rebuffed by evil Zionists."
The cope is that there will never be peace until Israel is destroyed ("from the river to the sea"), but it's Israel's fault. Of course, even if Israel is ever destroyed, everything that goes wrong until the end of time will still be its fault, just like colonialism is still blamed for everything

Time to Stop Toeing the Line - "At the height of Operation Protective Edge, Israel’s seven-week war with Hamas in the summer of 2014, then President Barack Obama imposed an embargo on a shipment of Hellfire missiles to Israel after the Pentagon approved the transfer.  A senior Obama administration told the The Wall Street Journal at the time that Israel could no longer expect automatic resupply of critical munitions in wartime. The decision to embargo the Hellfire missiles, the official averred, amounted to “the United States saying ‘the buck stops here. Wait a second … It’s not OK anymore.’”  The embargo was spurred by an IDF artillery round that fell on a United Nations school Hamas was using as a missile launching site. As is its wont, Hamas placed civilians at the site to serve as human shields.  The Hellfire embargo was meant to teach Israel a lesson.  But what lesson? If the administration wanted Israel to minimize civilian casualties, Obama should have been happy to supply Israel with more Hellfire missiles. Unlike regular artillery shells, the precision guided Hellfire missiles minimize civilian casualties.  By embargoing the Hellfire missiles, Obama was ensuring that all things being equal, more civilians would die. And that was the point. By denying Israel access to Hellfire missiles in the middle of a war, Obama was forcing Israel to choose between fighting Hamas with “dumb” artillery rounds at the cost of more civilian casualties and more U.S. and international condemnation, or standing down. Under the circumstances, the IDF General Staff might have been expected to reevaluate the desirability of maintaining Israel’s dependence on U.S. military assistance over time. But no such reassessment took place then, or since. Over the five decades since the U.S. transformed Israel into a U.S. client state through military aid, the handful of senior IDF officers who opposed the aid found themselves denied promotions, marginalized, and out of the IDF... there are good reasons for the IDF to oppose U.S. aid. The first is the uncertainty of procurement. When Israel jointly developed its Iron Dome and David’s Sling missile defense systems with the U.S., Washington insisted the missile production lines be located in the U.S., not Israel. The position raised few concerns at the time. But during Israel’s miniwar with Hamas in 2021, anti-Israel, progressive lawmakers sought to block supplemental orders.  In 2021, the progressives lacked the political power to get their way. But there is every reason to fear the balance of power will eventually shift to the progressives’ advantage.  There is also the problem of U.S. weapons themselves. While the U.S. remains the most powerful force in the world, its technological advantage over Russia and China is no longer as clear-cut today as it was in the past... Another reason the IDF might have been expected to question the desirability of continued dependence on U.S. aid is because it comes attached to strategic goals which, while perhaps reasonable for the U.S., are often bad for Israel. The U.S.’s strategic goal in the Middle East is to avoid a war. Israel’s goal is to achieve security.  These are two very different goals. Sometimes, they overlap and sometimes they clash. The IDF’s sense of dependence on the U.S. makes Israeli generals toe the U.S. line at all times, regardless of the implications of doing so for Israel’s strategic interests."

Arafat didn't negotiate - he just kept saying no - "Ever since the start of the second Palestinian intifada, a row has raged over who was responsible for the breakdown of the peace process. Now, for the first time, former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak has weighed in, accusing Yasser Arafat of being a liar who talked peace while secretly plotting the destruction of Israel... Clinton had "slowly" - to avoid misunderstanding - read out to Arafat a document, endorsed in advance by Barak, outlining the main points of a future settlement. The proposals included the establishment of a demilitarised Palestinian state on some 92% of the West Bank and 100% of the Gaza Strip, with some territorial compensation for the Palestinians from pre-1967 Israeli territory; the dismantling of most of the settlements and the concentration of the bulk of the settlers inside the 8% of the West Bank to be annexed by Israel; the establishment of the Palestinian capital in east Jerusalem, in which some Arab neighborhoods would become sovereign Palestinian territory and others would enjoy "functional autonomy"; Palestinian sovereignty over half the Old City of Jerusalem (the Muslim and Christian quarters) and "custodianship," though not sovereignty, over the Temple Mount; a return of refugees to the prospective Palestinian state though with no "right of return" to Israel proper; and the organisation by the international community of a massive aid programme to facilitate the refugees' rehabilitation.  Arafat said no. Enraged, Clinton banged on the table and said: "You are leading your people and the region to a catastrophe." A formal Palestinian rejection of the proposals reached the Americans the next day. The summit sputtered on for a few days more but to all intents and purposes it was over. Today Barak portrays Arafat's behaviour at Camp David as a "performance" geared to exacting from the Israelis as many concessions as possible without ever seriously intending to reach a peace settlement or sign an "end to the conflict"... "What they [Arafat and his colleagues] want is a Palestinian state in all of Palestine," says Barak. "What we see as self-evident, [the need for] two states for two peoples, they reject. Israel is too strong at the moment to defeat, so they formally recognise it. But their game plan is to establish a Palestinian state while always leaving an opening for further 'legitimate' demands down the road. They will exploit the tolerance and democracy of Israel first to turn it into 'a state for all its citizens', as demanded by the extreme nationalist wing of Israel's Arabs and extremist leftwing Jewish Israelis. Then they will push for a binational state and then demography and attrition will lead to a state with a Muslim majority and a Jewish minority. This would not necessarily involve kicking out all the Jews. But it would mean the destruction of Israel as a Jewish state. This, I believe, is their vision. Arafat sees himself as a reborn Saladin - the Kurdish Muslim general who defeated the Crusaders in the 12th century - and Israel as just another, ephemeral Crusader state."... Barak shook his head - in bewilderment and sadness - at what he regards as Palestinian, and especially Arafat's, mendacity: "They are products of a culture in which to tell a lie... creates no dissonance. They don't suffer from the problem of telling lies that exists in Judaeo-Christian culture. Truth is seen as an irrelevant category. There is only that which serves your purpose and that which doesn't. They see themselves as emissaries of a national movement for whom everything is permissible. There is no such thing as 'the truth'." Speaking of Arab society, Barak recalls: "The deputy director of the US Federal Bureau of Investigation once told me that there are societies in which lie detector tests don't work, societies in which lies do not create cognitive dissonance [on which the tests are based]."  But Barak is far from dismissive of Arafat, who appears to many Israelis to be a sick, slightly doddering buffoon and, at the same time, sly and murderous. Barak sees him as "a great actor, very sharp, very elusive, slippery." He cautions that Arafat "uses his broken English" to excellent effect."
From 2002

Israel’s #1 sketch comedy show : MajorityReport - "Specifically, when you see anti-zionist Orthodox Jews protesting [the existence of Israel], they are almost always members of the Neturei Karta sect; a fringe group smaller than the Westboro Baptist Church.  (Note that by "anti-zionist", I am referring to the strict definition: those who oppose self-determination for the Jewish people and advocate for the destruction of Israel. There are plenty of Jews, Orthodox and otherwise, opposed to specific policies or behaviors of the State of Israel.)"

palestinians are a myth says hamas member "they are just saudis and egyptians" - YouTube

Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 on X - "Did the Jews take land from Arab Palestinians in the 1940s? Was there a “dispossession” of Arab Palestinians by Jews?  No.  But Jews did buy land, legally, from Ottoman/Turkish landowners. Arabs sold the land (above market rate) to Jews. Some of the renters/tenants were upset their landlords sold off the land to Jews. But that’s not dispossession. These are the people who today are known as Palestinians and who claim they have an original interest in Israeli land. They never claim they own it, by the way— they just claim their ancestors lived on it.   BTW Israel keeps all the land purchase records on file in a safe place. All land was lawfully acquired from Arabs under their own laws. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine   Don’t let the Rashida Tlaibs of the world lie to you."

Meme - "Palestinian Answers To Israeli Peace Offers
1937 Peel Partition - NO!
1947 UN Partition - NO!
2000 Camp David - NO!
2001 Taba Clinton - NO!
2005/6 Disengagement/Realignment - NO!
2008 Olmert Plan - NO!
2010- 14 Quartet Negotiations - NO!
2016 Biden Plan - NO!"
How many times can you say no to peace and still pretend you want it?
They don't want peace - they want Israel destroyed

Meme - "we are proud to die for our cause exterminating Israel!"
"nooooo Israel won't stop bombing us!"

Luai Ahmed on X - "As Arabs, we need to understand that Israel and the West are not our oppressors or enemies.  We, Arabs, are our own worst enemies.   We, Arabs, are our greatest oppressors.  We, Arabs, have killed and oppressed a million times more of our people than the West and Israel can ever do.  It is not Israel that married off my mother when she was a child. It is my people who did.  It is not the West or Israel that has been bombing Yemen for the past decade and killed 400,000. It is us, Arabs, who did it.  It is not the Israel that implanted Islamic extremism in the East and the West. It is our mosques, it is the books we worship, it is the Imams we follow, it is what we learn and what we teach.  It is not the West that forces us to treat women like commodities. It is our people.  And most of all, it is not the West or Israel that doesn’t value Arab lives.   It is us, Arabs, who do not value human life.  If we do not admit to ourselves that WE are the problem, that WE are refusing to progress, and that WE need to change – then change will never happen, blood will keep flowing, and we will never know peace.  How do we expect the world and the International Community to respect us, when we don’t respect ourselves?"

Mizrahi Jews in Israel - Wikipedia - "Mizrahi Jews constitute one of the largest Jewish ethnic divisions among Israeli Jews. Mizrahi Jews are descended from Jews in the Middle East, North Africa and Central Asia and parts of the Caucasus, who had lived for many generations under Muslim rule during the Middle Ages. The vast majority of them left the Muslim-majority countries during the Arab–Israeli conflict, in what is known as the Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries.  As of 2005, 61% of Israeli Jews were of full or partial Mizrahi ancestry. After the establishment of the State of Israel and subsequent 1948 Arab–Israeli War, most Mizrahi Jews were either expelled by their Arab rulers or chose to leave and emigrated to Israel. According to the 2009 Statistical Abstract of Israel, 50.2% of Israeli Jews are of Mizrahi or Sephardic origin"
This doesn't stop the anti-Semites from claiming that Jews migrated to Israel from abroad to occupy it, taking it away from its "original inhabitants"

Meme - "Mia Khalifa:
literally a porn star
boobs are fake
retired from porn but was so bad at everything she went to onlyfans
banned from her home country for thottery
SUPPORTS PALESTINE
Abigail Shapiro:
Clasically trained opera singer and theatre actress
boobs are real, doesn't need to show them off
dutiful wife and mother
SUPPORTS ISRAEL"

Palestinians: LGBTQ+ not welcome here - "According to Pew Research, 93% of the Palestinian population is completely opposed to homosexuality, a percentage among the highest in the world. Palestine has also been named by Forbes as one of the worst countries in the world for LGBTQ+ travelers.  In recent years, Palestinian authors have been targeted for writing about LGBTQ+ issues, LGBTQ+ NGOs like alQaws have been banned for not being aligned with “traditional Palestinian values” (though this was reversed after international outcry), and individuals continue to be harassed and assaulted for their identity. According to Palestinian law, being gay is punishable by up to 10 years in prison and in Gaza, it’s punishable by death. In 2016, Hamas executed a senior commander by firing squad in Gaza for homosexual activity. LGBTQ+ Palestinians have no legal protections against discrimination, are forbidden from adopting and gay marriage is not recognized in any capacity. In this Pride month alone, the LGBTQ+ community has been threatened and silenced in Ramallah, forcing a concert of east Jerusalem’s Bashar Murad to be canceled when anti-gay activists marched into a concert venue and demanded the organizers cancel the event for the LGBTQ+ community.  The lead activist, the son of a Hamas commander, stated in a now viral video, “don’t test our patience” and warned that the LGBTQ+ community isn’t welcome in Palestine. Over the weekend, cars of participants in an LGBTQ+ event were also vandalized by anti-gay Palestinians. It’s also important to note that this was not occurring in a village in the remote West Bank, but in Ramallah, which is considered to be the most developed and progressive Palestinian city... While the war is being waged against Palestinians in the LGBTQ+ community in the West Bank and Gaza, intersectional activists in the West care more about attacking Israel than they do about Palestinian LGBTQ+. In fact, even Palestinian NGOs like alQaws have been criticized by gay Palestinians for focusing more on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict than on supporting the community. Activist groups like the ironically named Queers for Palestine have repeatedly used their platform and that of their activists to obsessively condemn Israel, rather than educating for tolerance and support for the LGBTQ+ community in the Palestinian territories. And while it’s possible to advocate for more than one cause at once, there is no proportionality when it comes to the criticism of Israel versus advocating for the Palestinian LGBTQ+ community. Such obsession is the height of irony, given that many Palestinians flee to Israel due to the fact they are gay and that Tel Aviv is home to the largest Pride parade in the Middle East, with attendance above 170,000 people this last month. The anti-Israel LGBTQ+ activists may stand with Palestine but Palestine certainly doesn’t stand with them. Sadly, it’s the Palestinian LGBTQ+ community which pays the price."

“Mondoweiss” is a hate site (UPDATED) - The Washington Post - "Here is where warmed-over Marxism meets anti-Semitism. The Jews never had much political power in Europe, but after emancipation they were often, on average, more economically successful than the local non-Jewish population. So Jews aren’t proper Marxist victims, because Marxist dogma requires the victims to be of economically lower status than the oppressors. This is a major reason why European Jews faced with violent jihadist anti-Semitism get little sympathy on the far left–they are economically better-off than the local Muslim population, so only the latter can be proper victims. Thus criticizing Islamist jihadists is “punching down.” (Of course, it doesn’t help that the Jews are perceived as “white” and the Muslims not. That seems largely irrelevant in France, where 80% of Jews migrated to France from the same North African countries as most of the Muslims, but maybe I’m attributing some rationality where there is none to be found.)... For centuries in Europe, “Jew” simply represented whatever real or imagined foe needed to be combated. It’s not entirely a coincidence that when the European far-left decided that nationalism, racism, and imperialism were the foci of evil in the world, that it was Israel that came to be the primary target for those sins, even if the Jewish connection was unconscious among many of the targeters... If similar nonsense came from the keyboard of a right-wing Christian like Pat Buchanan, no one would have any trouble identifying the relevant website as a hate site. The fact that this comes from a leftist “as a Jew” (or a “righteous Jew” according to John Mearsheimer’s rather idiosyncratic standard) shouldn’t alter one’s conclusion."

Isa Kamari (mirror) - "IMPOSTORS Dr. Areilla Oppenheim at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, did the first extensive DNA study in 2001 of Israelis & Palestinians, and concluded that the emigrants on ships to Palestine before it became Israel were of Mongol 40% & Turkish 40% genome...there was no Semetic blood associated to the original Hebrews from the Middle East of 4,000 years ago in Jerusalem or Biblical territory. This was confirmed by another DNA project by Dr. Eran Elhaik at the McKusick-Namans Institute of Genetic Medicine at the John Hopkins University of School of Medicine, in 2012. His conclusions were the same!* The Askenanzi so-called Jews did not ever migrate out of the Middle East!*. At the same time extensive DNA evidence found the Palestinians to be 80% more or less, Semetic blood in their ancestors who were found therefore to be the real Israelites. The white Jews whose ancestors embarked on ships in 1882 to Palestine before it was named Israel---aren't Israelites. Truth hurts* once again These White Eastern European descendants of German, Russian, Polish, Austrian, Georgian, etc., are impostors claiming to be Gods Chosen Ones, but are descendants of the old Khazars from the Khazarian Caucus & they have been denying this scientific evidence as they have made up myths of their own histories, which already many Americans believe throughout one whole century, i.e. Schofield Bible. For, the real history of the new established "Israel in 1947" --'is no secret today!* Since Palestinians were found to be almost more or at least 80%Semetic. The So-called people are on the wrong side of history. From Edib Smolo #freepalestine #freegaza #israelterrorist #genocideingaza #genocideinpalestine"
It's telling that whenever they report their fake news studies they never provide links to or names of these studies. Of course, the real 2001 paper (below) by Dr. Areilla Oppenheim (who was actually the last author among 6) says something very different. Not to mention how the Facebook post mischievously conflates Ashkenazi Jews with all Jews, as if half the Jews in Israel today are not actually Middle Eastern in origin (and were ethnically cleansed from the Arab countries)

The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle East - "The investigation of the genetic relationship among three Jewish communities revealed that Kurdish and Sephardic Jews were indistinguishable from one another, whereas both differed slightly, yet significantly, from Ashkenazi Jews... Neither Ashkenazi Jews nor the two Sephardic samples clustered with their former host populations (non-Jewish Eastern European, Iberian, and North African populations)."
Ironically, the paper shows that Palestinian Arabs are more related to all the types of Jews studied than Muslim Kurds, and are more related to Kurdish and Ashkenazi Jews than the Bedouin

Abraham's Children in the Genome Era: Major Jewish Diaspora Populations Comprise Distinct Genetic Clusters with Shared Middle Eastern Ancestry - "In this study, Jewish populations from the major Jewish Diaspora groups—Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Mizrahi—formed a distinctive population cluster by PCA analysis, albeit one that is closely related to European and Middle Eastern, non-Jewish populations. Within the study, each of the Jewish populations formed its own cluster as part of the larger Jewish cluster. Each group demonstrated Middle Eastern ancestry and variable admixture with European populations...  This time of a split between Middle Eastern Iraqi and Iranian Jews and European/Syrian Jews, calculated by simulation and comparison of length distributions of IBD segments, is 100–150 generations, compatible with a historical divide that is reported to have occurred more than 2500 years ago. The Middle Eastern populations were formed by Jews in the Babylonian and Persian empires who are thought to have remained geographically continuous in those locales. In contrast, the other Jewish populations were formed more recently from Jews who migrated or were expelled from Palestine and from individuals who were converted to Judaism during Hellenic-Hasmonean times, when proselytism was a common Jewish practice"

NYC: Muslim Makes Terrifying Threats Against Jewish People: “I Watch Israeli People Die and I Masturbate With That….I Just Like Killing Jews. I Rape Them First. Then I Kill Them” - "Muslim: I watch Israeli people die and I masturbate with that.
Interviewer: Wow, what do you think about the Jewish people?
Muslim: They are dirty. Heil Hitler.
I just like killing Jews. I’ll rape them first. Then I kill them. That’s the difference. Cutting their fingers,  my God, it was so good.
I’m in the US right now, I’m in Manhattan. The US is fucking evil. One day we will take all US.  All the Muslims will destroy the US and we will rule the world
Interviewer: I wish you find god. I wish you peace.
Muslim: I have god. Allah."
Mirror

Egypt Canada Islam Said Shoaib | Middle East Media Research Institute - "In a June 29 interview with the Arab-Christian channel Al-Hayat TV, Egyptian-Canadian journalist Said Shoaib called Al-Andalus a "colonialist occupation" and added that it is very sad that the Muslims "take pride in their colonialist crimes." Muslims, he said, have no choice but to reform their religion, rather than continuing to be "a burden on civilization." He pointed out that "our conflict with Israel is mostly religious, otherwise we would be treating Iran the same way we treat Israel," and added that "the reforms in the Jewish religion improved it." He also criticized Egyptian media and public for refusing to admit that the kidnapping and slaughter of Copts by jihadi terrorists is based on religion...
Said Shoaib: "Iran is occupying the Arab region of Ahwaz and oppressing the Sunnis, and it is occupying the UAE islands. Turkey is occupying the Alexandretta province. Is there one occupation that is halal and another that is haram?... nobody cares. They only care about Israel, because the Prophet Muhammad engaged in a political armed and unarmed conflict [with the Jews] 1,400 years ago, and we act as if it happened today. There is another upsetting paradox. We consider Al-Andalus to be a source of pride for the Muslims, although it was, in fact, a colonialist occupation."
Interviewer: "You won't hear France saying today with pride: 'remember how we occupied Algeria and Morocco? Those were the days...'"
Said Shoaib: "Nobody says that except for the Muslims, and this is very sad. The Muslims are the only ones who take pride in their colonialist crimes."
Interviewer: "Because it is a religious matter. They consider this to be sacred."
Said Shoaib: "If you are so proud of the occupation of Al-Andalus, why are you angry at Israel? This is very strange. I once interviewed [former MB Supreme Guide] Mahdi Akef. It was the famous interview in which he said: 'To hell with Egypt.' I mentioned to him that the Ottomans had been occupiers [in Egypt]. 'Occupiers?' he was bewildered and hit the table. 'They were Muslims! Muslims cannot occupy Muslims.' Of course Muslims can be occupiers. The Ottomans destroyed the entire region."
Interviewer: "Sure there can be occupation. What was Iraq doing in Kuwait? Dropping in for breakfast?"
Said Shoaib: "It's insane. The Muslims are the only ones who want to restore their colonialist empire... The reforms in the Jewish religion improved it. The most important aspect of this was that they abandoned the textual understanding of the religion"
Interviewer: "Don't you think that it's too late [for the Muslims], because generations and generations were raised on this? People blow themselves up and kill people in Manchester and in Paris – there is nothing to be done. The cancer has spread. Isn't it too late? Even in the West, in some Western countries, perhaps the time for reforms is gone..."
Said Shoaib: "First of all, you must know the saying 'better late than never.' Second, what choice do we Muslims have? To continue being a burden on the world, on human civilization? I feel that Muslims I know personally – I'm not talking about the Islamists – are upset. They are not pleased. They are angry. My mother is upset. She's not happy... The religious conflicts will continue. One of the things that saddens me in Egypt is that people refuse to admit that the kidnapping and slaughter of Copts is motivated by religion. Even now, the public mind is closed. Even my friends and colleagues, who are senior journalists and excellent people, refuse to admit it. Christians in Egypt are being killed on the basis of religion. Why is that?"

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