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Friday, March 20, 2020

On Following "True" Islam

B: Since alcohol is not permissible for practicing Muslims, some Malaysians have begun selling hand sanitizers made out of ethanol as an alternative.

LOL ETHANOL

Malaysians are selling 'halal' hand sanitizers that are 'alcohol free' - Culture

A (Muslim): In Islam, Alcohol is only haram to be consumed, not haram to be used as a medication.

Me: Doesn't stop alcohol free perfume etc being popular in Muslim countries

A: back to basic premise that alcohol is haram to be consumed only.

Me: Some Muslims want halal toilets, so...

A: oh pray do update what’s a halal toilet? Using water instead of toilet paper?

Me: "People ask for a halal toilet bowl because it comes into contact with humans" Rising trend of halal labelling generates concern, SE Asia News & Top Stories - The Straits Times

I'm guessing a halal toilet is one non-Muslims don't use

Highway operator blames errant contractor for ‘Muslim toilet’ sign | Malaysia | Malay Mail

A: if by halal means non usage by non muslims, then nothing is in Sg? My only reference on Islamic knowledge and understanding of halal and haram is the Quran and the prophet’s tradition , not what so-called muslims or non muslims say and refer.

Me: That isn't objective either. Because even if interpretation is 100% undisputed, not everyone subscribes to the same hadiths and sunnahs

Anyway even if you have a platonic ideal of Islam it doesn't mean everyone else shares it

A: so your article mentions the sign was placed by an errant contractor and the authorities have removed it. This means this is (a) a mistake (b) a prank (c) a sabotage

Islam means being submissive to Allah’s directives and commands as spelled out in the Quran and as practised by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Other versions and other practices aren’t not even relevant

and a non muslim is better able and more knowledgeable at this matter of interpretation ? Lol

Me: I see you're ignoring the previous article

And you ignore d) zealousness

I'm sure you think your version of Islam is the correct one. But there're 4 major schools of Sunni Islam - not to mention the Shiites. So have fun arguing over who is right and who is wrong

A: yup . Have fun trying to convince a Muslim what to believe about Islam, if what you’re reading are only the media and Google. Go read the Quran , learn the traditions of the prophet and then you’ll know what’s right and what’s not in Islam

C (Muslim): actually quite impress on your knowledge haha. And you are absolutely right
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