Of course, the left wing solution is more subsidies to fund everything the union demands It's Happening : r/CanadaPost - "The govt isn't going to let it go long, if at all. Not after the Kaplan report. But damn the ineptitude of going on strike again after getting the report. The delusion is just pathological" How do I get a job at Canada Post I want to make 20$ an hour to not do any work. : r/CanadaPost - "Finally happened to me, got a "delivery attempted" slip in my mailbox. I was home, my mother was home, my fucking dog would have barked his head off if you knocked on the door so no you didnt attempt shit you lazy fuckstick. Literally 1 day before you crybabies go on strike and you're pulling this shit still? I hope you lose your jobs. Ill fucking gladly take your place and actually try and deliver shit to people. Also like, I know what the item is, it 100% fits in a mailbox, it doesnt need a signature you could have literally just put in in my mailbox instead of making me have to go back to the post office."
"I love paying for home delivery and having to go pick up a $40 box from the shoppers across town."
"Take me almost an hour round trip to get my package that was 10 ft from my door at some point when the mail carrier decided not to deliver it."
"I've yet to get a package from Canada post where they actually attempt to deliver it. I'm home 7 days at a time and never get a knock. And then they wonder why the general public has so much animosity towards them trying to strike for more money. And like at this point Canada post is already losing money every year. Why do you think striking is going to do anything? Canada post is going to lose money either way. I'm sure they are gonna starve you guys out this time around."
"I looked out my window and saw the Canada Post truck parked outside. I thought, "Oh great maybe they have my package!" Then I watch the mail lady walk up to my door and stick something on it, and then she got back into her truck and drove away. I went downstairs and saw her note she put on the door. It said, "Sorry we missed you" and it told me to go to my local Shopper's after 1pm the next day to get my package. They are the most lazy entitled little sh*ts!! They don't even attempt to do their job properly and they think they deserve another raise?!?"
"I asked at the post office how to submit a complaint against a postal employee, I was getting attempted delivery notices without anyone trying to deliver anything. They asked how I knew this was the case, that no attempt was made, as it was January at the time, there is 4 inches of snow and no footprints, also, 3 cameras watch my front porch. They said "they are busy and it's tough getting around in the snow" "Hey, same here, plus I paid for delivery, to my house, and they refuse to do their job" Long story, there is no complaint form, just like all government services, you get what you get."
"The post office closest to me doesn’t even bother being open during their posted hours. Consistently"
"I noticed the newer tags don't even have an attempted delivery time space anymore. Now they are basically "we snuck this in your mailbox without you noticing haha" tags. Consumers probably have enough evidence to launch a class action lawsuit by this point. How many people in this thread alone can document what would be considered fraud if any other company was doing it? I have watched a carrier place a delivery notice in my mailbox after not attempting to make delivery, and then when I confronted the carrier as they walked away and had the carrier tell me "oh we don't even try to bring most things", which to me sounds like straight up fraud because I'm pretty sure what I paid for was for them to bring me things. I've had customer service and even a customer service manager tell me that it's too hard to carry all of those things around. BUT THAT'S YOUR JOB. AND THAT'S WHAT PARCEL SERVICE IS FOR. But I guess I was wrong."
Obviously it's Canada Post's fault. If they just paid their workers more this wouldn't happen If CUPW hadn't already lost my support, what they published today would do it. : r/CanadaPost - "CPC needs to restructure, save some operating costs if it is to continue. The Kaplan Report confirmed this. One of the ways they can do this is by eliminating overtime and bringing in what they call dynamic routing and load leveling. "Under a dynamic routing model, computer software would be used to build delivery routes on a daily basis. Carriers would no longer own a specific route. Instead, they’d own a schedule and be assigned to a general geographic area. The software would determine the order by which carriers would perform their tasks. For Canada Post, dynamic routing is all about ‘worker flexibility.’ It would give management the power to reassign work tasks to any carrier." As for load leveling, "Canada Post wants to get rid of work/route ownership. This way, management can take workload from one route and give it to another. For Canada Post, this is about trying to limit ‘trapped time’ and overtime. (For CPC, ‘trapped time’ is pay for time not worked.) Under this proposal, letter carriers and RSMCs would no longer be responsible for just their own routes. This would mean that if you’ve completed your route or duties in less than scheduled hours, management could assign you any additional work to fill your unused hours." So basically right now, if you "own" a route, you have 8 hours to finish it. If you finish it in 4 hours, you still get paid for 8 even though you aren't actually doing any work for half your shift. If it takes you 10 hours, you get paid overtime. CPC wants to make it so the one who finished in 4 hours could be assigned to take some of the route from the one who needs 10 hours, thus eliminating "trapped time" and overtime. In what fn world do you think you have the right to only work 4 hours and get paid for 8??? And yes, I have confirmed this with a couple carriers who finish after 4-5 hours and then go sit at the beach, run errands, etc once done their route. This is an actual quote from CUPW: "There will be no easy days. How will carriers be able to maintain this workload and pace over the long term?" What, you mean working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week like the rest of the workforce?? Are you serious? Or just lazy? Canada Post cannot survive without making changes. Having their workers actually work for the full 8 hours they are paid for seems like a no-brainer. So done with CUPW." Sabine El-Chidiac: Canada Post union addicted to irrelevancy - "Canadians will remember with much anxiety that Canada Post workers recently went on strike in November, right as the holiday season was in full swing. That strike was perfectly timed to wreak as much havoc as possible in order to strengthen their bargaining power, destroying the most profitable time of year for charities and small business in Canada. Since the postal union and Canada Post ultimately could not reach an agreement, they were forced back to work by the Canada Industrial Relations Board (CIRB), but not without securing a five per cent raise from Canada Post first... The solution remains the same as when Canadians were held hostage at the holidays: breaking up the Canada Post monopoly. The Canada Post Corporation Act gives special privilege to the Crown coporation, which allows it to be the only ones who can deliver letter mail in Canada. European countries have already broken up their monopolies: as Canadian economist Vincent Geloso has pointed out, an EU directive has made it so that all letters have been open to competition since 2013, which effectively ends state-owned postal monopolies. Some European countries have gone as far as to privatize their postal system, and watched as prices for postal services fell as much as 17 per cent in Germany. That shows that privatization and breaking up a longstanding monopoly is possible, and beneficial, to citizens just trying to run their business, raise money for their charities, or just send a card to their grandmother. Possibly the most frustrating part of this new potential strike is that one of the demands of the postal union is to curb the same innovation that their competitors thrive off. For example, workers want “improved protections against technological change” since Canada Post is “always looking for new technology.” However, halting innovation is also a quick way to put their workers out of a job permanently as competitors begin to speed by, leaving Canada Post in the dust and potentially shutting its doors. Experimentation and innovation are requirements for growing and maintaining a stable business in any field, and for meeting consumer needs. Maintaining the postal monopoly in Canada is a recipe for disaster for the Crown corporation, especially as mail isn’t as lucrative as it use to be, when so much communication is done digitally... Union members should be able to strike, but they should no longer be able to bring Canadian businesses, charities, and consumers to their knees. Without a monopoly, workers could strike, but the effect on actual Canadian lives would be significantly less harsh. Canadians need to seriously consider breaking up the monopoly before the next strike. However, here we are again, treating a Crown corporation as untouchable, and suffering for it as usual."
Weird. Left wingers insist that no private company could provide similarly extensive service, and they usually claim Europe does things the right way. Also they usually claim people shouldn't live in rural areas since it's inefficient to serve them (and some even want to force people in rural areas to live in cities), so presumably they'd be happy with them losing services. Some businesses are already ditching Canada Post as strike looms wtf yall asking for more $ but can't deliver my package to my house ?? wtf : r/CanadaPost - "today i had a package scheduled to reach my house and before they even knocked or anything they left a note saying to come pick it up or wtv bs i'm like wtf??? canada post count ur fkn days u guys are worthless asf company is trash and asking for more money but can't do ur fkn job correctly and deliver packages"
"One of the things the workers demanded last contract negotiation was that doorbell camera video can not be used against them. They fought to avoid consequences for not doing their job. They did it again to me today im sick of them." Don't get the Canada Post hate : r/CanadaPost - "Tell me you know nothing about the 162 page report where Jan Simpson and the rest of the CUPW higher ups requested the inquiry be done and looked into the financials, operation and mandates of Canada Posts entire brand. She and the unions top brass didn’t like what the report proved, that in fact the union has helped and contributed to the corporation being hamstrung on how it functions. During the “strike” Kaplan asked a simple question “how is it that an employee can leave 3 hours early when they are scheduled and paid for 8 hours yet get to go home instead of doing other work.?” “Instead they are allowed to go home 3 hours early then call someone else in for OT and pay that person for 8 hours”? The agreement was they could work through lunch instead of getting that meal break so they could leave earlier (most places it is 30 minutes meal break no idea what that shit show offers for lunch breaks). The response from CUPW grievance officer Gallant is comedic “workers under the current model are incentivized to work faster .” “When people are scheduled to work 8 hours they work 8 hours but when you give them a carrot they run to get done faster.” Um yeah 30 minutes, not 3 hours there Einstein. Then of course says it’s a management issue lol." Canada Post turns down 3.5% per year for 4 years : r/CanadaPost - "Never have I seen a Union so quickly turn me, a pro-union person, so vehemently against them. Insane."
"Their deep sense of righteous entitlement goes back decades. That it's been catered to for so long is quite unique to the Canadian economic landscape." Canada Post turns down 3.5% per year for 4 years : r/CanadaPost - "Oh no, they were asked to do things every other worker in every other workplace ever is asked to do. How will they survive? Poor Canada Post workers. They have it so hard. They might have to drive down a different road today. Awe 😢" What's next? : r/CanadaPost - "As a rural person, no. Canada Post is so unreliable, we'd be better off starting off fresh. Letters come sporadically, as if they've saved up for a week. Their parcel service consists of non-delivery slips that require me to drive 60km to the nearest Post office." Useless strike has led to better alternatives. : r/CanadaPost - "I am a small business owner and have shipped with CP for almost 10 years. The rates were always why we stayed with them... but after the last strike, we discovered we could get faster, more reliable service for only a few dollars more. We've switched to Purolator and have not looked back. Frankly, I don't think we ever will. For any small businesses looking for a better alternative, I suggest contacting Purolator and setting up a business account. It costs almost the same for us to ship our packages to western Canada and only 3-4$ more when shipping to the East. Delivery times is 1-3 days. We let our customers know that reliability and faster shipping times are better and they accepted it. It's a shame CP pushed us to this."
"(Who wants to tell him that CP owns Purolator?)"
"It's run as a business that competes with UPS and Fedex, not like Canada Post." Useless strike has led to better alternatives. : r/CanadaPost - "Do you believe that Purolator profit goes into Canada Post????"
Useless strike has led to better alternatives. : r/CanadaPost - "Basic accounting principles. As the majority shareholder, Canada Post must account Purolator profits and losses in its financials. If one is capable of reading, one can find on page 7 of ’25Q1 that Canada Post operating losses amount to 111M CAD, which is offset by 31M profits from Purolator, and reported accordingly a 80M CAD loss in the consolidated results on page 21. So yes, the headline figures would look worse if Canada Post did not factor Purolator profits into it. Before one takes a rabbit hole of conspiracies, know that Canada Post as a crown corporation is audited by the Auditor General."
Left wingers think accounting is like voodoo and profits can magically be hidden by greedy capitalists Useless strike has led to better alternatives. : r/CanadaPost - "But I keep hearing people say that the employees deserve their pay and a rising tide lifts all ships and all that jazz. People should be ecstatic to pay premium prices if it means it supports premium wages" Canada Post strike ‘yo-yoing’ has some businesses turning elsewhere: CFIB - "As unionized postal workers vote on the latest and "final" offers from Canada Post, it may be too little, too late for some businesses as a new survey suggests they are "starting to leave for good." The Canadian Federation of Independent Business (CFIB) released the results of a survey conducted through June and July of 2025 on how businesses have responded to the service disruptions at Canada Post amid the roughly 18 months of union negotiations and strike action. “Yo-yoing in and out of strike mandates is causing Canada’s small businesses — one of Canada Post’s last groups of profitable customers — to leave for good,” said president Dan Kelly at the CFIB. “Small business owners and other consumers need certainty. Thirteen per cent of small businesses permanently dropped usage of Canada Post during the 2024 strike and every time Canada Post goes on strike, more and more businesses leave forever.”" William Watson: To save Canada Post, how about supply management? - "I wonder if, when the mandate consultations finally do take place, one of Canada Post’s “stakeholders” makes the obvious proposal: supply management for the parcel industry. Supply management — which is actually a euphemism for supply restriction — has been great for dairy, chicken and egg farmers since we introduced it in the 1970s. There’s no reason it couldn’t be great for parcel workers in the 2020s. As we did in the early 1970s, we hand out quota. If companies delivered X number of parcels on average over the past three years, they get the legal right to deliver X parcels a year — but not one parcel more — every year into the future. They can sell their quota to other people if they want to but the total amount of quota doesn’t grow unless the soon-to-be-constituted Canadian Parcel Commission authorizes it. With the amount of quota issued equal to the demand for parcel deliveries, quota won’t be worth anything to start with. But as the demand for deliveries rises, as it seems destined to do, quota will become scarce. If the Canadian Parcel Commission were made up of consumers, it would promptly raise the number of delivery permits to equal demand. But in fact, the way the world works, especially the Canadian part of it, the Canadian Parcel Commission will be top-heavy with people from the parcel industry, so quota issuance will not keep pace with demand, so quota will become artificially scarce and its price will rise. Over time, people who got quota when it was handed out for free will enjoy a very nice capital gain. People with parcels they want delivered will notice that the price of doing so rises. But that won’t elicit more parcel-delivery supply because delivering parcels without quota will be illegal: you’ll go to jail for it if you get caught. That’s the downside. The upside is that Canada Post and all other parcel delivery operations will have stable, secure incomes forever after... if it would be idiotic to introduce supply management in other industries, and it would be, why do we cling to it in a few privileged corners of agriculture? Even at the cost of Trumpian tariff aggression on everything else?"
Canada Post update: Unionized workers reject contract offer - "A member survey by CFIB last month found that another strike could lead up to two thirds of businesses to ditch Canada Post for good."
Canada Post is a case study in Canadian dysfunctionality - The Globe and Mail - "Canada Post, which predates Confederation, is a vital national institution, playing a particularly important role in serving rural, Northern and Indigenous communities across our vast country. But today, Canada Post is effectively insolvent. Indeed, it would have run out of cash had the government not recently extended a billion-dollar lifeline. This situation is no surprise, and it has been developing for a long time. Canada Post has been impeded from adapting to modern business realities because of long-standing labour inflexibility as well as oscillation by prior governments between political indifference and political interference... William Kaplan, a highly respected mediator and arbitrator, recently examined this stalemate as a commissioner appointed under the Canada Labour Code. In his report this month he described Canada Post as facing an “existential crisis.” He recommended drastic changes to its operations... As letter-mail business continues to erode, the future of Canada Post lies in parcel delivery, which is intensely competitive. Customers expect and demand seven-day-a-week service at competitive prices without undue risk of disruption. Paradoxically, the stakeholders who would be expected to have the keenest interest in ensuring the corporation’s viability are blocking the company’s ability to succeed. CUPW refuses to allow Canada Post to hire a dedicated force of flexible weekend workers. Meanwhile, workers, who get overtime pay for weekend work, earn more – roughly $30 per hour to start – than their counterparts at unionized competitors and vastly more than their counterparts at non-unionized competitors. As the Kaplan report outlined, those workers with tenure have job security for life, a defined-benefit pension plan, and postretirement benefits indexed to inflation, a multitude of generous leave entitlements, and are paid for eight hours of work whether or not it takes eight hours to complete a route. All these factors make seven-day-a-week parcel delivery impossible to achieve at competitive prices, which means that parcel delivery competitors are taking over most of the market share. Indifference of and interference by prior governments have exacerbated the situation. For example, even though 30 per cent of the thousands of corporate postal outlets classified as rural are now urban or suburban, Canada Post is directed not to close or consolidate any of them. Further, although door-to-door delivery costs 75 per cent more than delivery to community mailboxes, Justin Trudeau’s incoming government imposed a moratorium on community mailbox conversions in 2015. The Kaplan report threads the needle. His recommendations include ending the moratoriums on rural post office closings and community mailbox conversions, changing collective agreements to allow for the flexible use of well-paid part-time employees, requiring employees to work the hours for which they are paid, and introducing dynamic routing to adapt routes to daily volumes. His well-reasoned report lays out the path for a future that sustainably preserves the institution of Canada Post and respects labour and other key stakeholders in a fair and balanced approach. Absent urgent structural change, the future of Canada Post will be doomed by private competition, unsustainable demands of labour combined, and no clear directional oversight by the sole shareholder as represented by prior governments. As the world evolved from paper to digital, from letter mail to parcels, and from a relatively benign competitive landscape to an intensively competitive one, politicization of key issues impeded necessary reform, perpetuating a cycle of waste, inefficiency and financial recklessness. Canada Post now loses a billion dollars of taxpayer money each year, and the prognosis is materially worse, absent major change. The operational straitjacket imposed by the union, together with past governments’ failure to address the underlying structural issues, mean that Canada Post has effectively been disabled from running an operation that is even remotely commercially sensible. The math simply doesn’t work."
Clearly, the solution is to give Canada Post a monopoly over parcel delivery as well