Tuesday, August 27, 2024

Links - 27th August 2024 (2 - UK Migrant Riots)

Gareth Roberts on X - "When I was a kid - late primary school age, what would now be Year 5 or 6 -  about once a term, a rumour went round the playground that skinheads were coming to beat us all up tomorrow. Or this afternoon. They’d already ‘done’ one of the schools on the other side of town. Put the teachers in hospital, killed a kid. Chased him off a roof, he broke his back.   I had an anxious time the first occasion this nonsense went round, but it soon started to lose its potency. Any parent or adult that heard about it burst out laughing, for one thing. And then there was the curious lack of publicity about the death and mayhem at a nearby primary school, which hadn’t even made the local paper (which was famed for its front page scoops about late library books, potholes and mislaid bicycle pumps).   Similarly, I was rather sceptical about the recent repeated claims that there is a large and coordinated ‘far right’ in the UK. The far right of my 1980s teens were neither of those things - very nasty if you had the bad luck to run into them, or for them to run into you, as I did once or twice, but at a macro-level not a big problem. It seemed very unlikely that there were now *more* of them. The groups seemed to have vanished, and the loners that surfaced were just that - solitary.   But the media, and the sensible class, still seemed to be behaving like they were in the playground at my primary. TV drama is full of white riots, tinderbox ‘Tommeh’s, and the news is so squeamish about reporting race, treating the white working class as a box of sweaty gelignite - ‘careful, or they’ll go off!’ This seemed ludicrous to me, a fantasy of the white middle class left.   But then the recent riots occurred. I began to wonder if I’d been wrong. Maybe there *were* millions of powder keg gammons out there, about to chase us all off rooftops.   But hang on. A week and a bit later, and this seems to have fizzled out. (I’m making myself a ‘that aged well’ hostage to fortune here, but so what.) The newspapers and broadcasters worked themselves up into a masturbatory froth yesterday about ‘100 FAR RIGHT RIOTS’ planned for last night - the source for this intelligence remains very unclear. Thousands of counter protesters took them at their word and showed up to fight back.  But … far-right came there none. Walthamstow and Brentford were among the extremely unlikely venues for anyone hoping to spark race riots. The Telegraph ran a live update commentary on the night of horror, reporting that ‘The largest far-Right demonstration appears to be in Portsmouth’ - next to a picture of said demonstration which consisted of ten sad hoodies and an upside-down Union Jack.   We are now being told that the counter-protesters ‘faced down the far-right’ and prevented more riots. How exactly can you face down people that weren’t present, and prevent something that wasn’t going to happen?   Similarly the details of the very swiftly prosecuted and jailed white rioters of the previous weekend suggest pretty standard underclass court fodder. A sophisticated web of organised doctrinal fascism … not so much. In fact, so far as we can tell at this point, not at all.   I approve of people making an affray having the book thrown at them, no excuses, and I hope that this remarkably efficient process will set a precedent for all creeds and classes of such offenders (Harry Hill look to camera gif).   A large and active ‘far right’ reacting to ‘disinformation’ on the socials is the wet dream of the sensible political class, and also of the very very nasty - and actually organised and influential - pro-Hamas left. It makes them the good guys.   But it is nonsense. A mirage. A few hundred coked-up thugs who are already being banged up are not the rise of fascism. They are a cause for alarm. But only for proportionate alarm. Our problems are far bigger and more deeply rooted. The skinheads are probably not coming to get us tomorrow."    

Keith Woods on X - "🇸🇪🇩🇰 Even left-wing governments in ultra-progressive Sweden and Denmark have admitted that multiculturalism was a failure    Denmark even created a modest remigration plan, offering non-EU immigrants and dual citizens a financial package to return to their home country   It's impossible to imagine anything like this from the left in the UK or Ireland, who are motivated more by spite and White guilt than any desire to have a functioning welfare state    They would sooner turn our nations into tyrannical police states than cede an inch of ground to nationalists on immigration"

Noah Carl on X - "Immigration was the most important issue for Conservative voters at the last election. And yet... they decided to vote for a party that let in more immigrants per year than Tony Blair, despite having the option of voting Reform."  

ripx4nutmeg on X - "Hope Not Hate ambassador Matt Collins reveals he once attacked random women in a library with hammers, hospitalising 17 of them. Every single online mention of the 1989 Welling Library attack comes from Hope Not Hate's Matt Collins 🤔. The first is in this 2002 BBC interview, in which several key details are different (nine people were hospitalised, he punched a man in the face, no mention of Asian women)"
Vlad on X - "Sounds like a made-up story tbh ,did he go to prison ? This would have been a huge terrible story ,when did this happen .Is he all there ?"
ripx4nutmeg on X - "He didn't go to prison. It's called 'The Battle of Welling Library', from 1989, but all references to it online seem to be from his account of it years later 🤔"
ripx4nutmeg on X - "All in for rehabilitation - but he's not actually done any time for what he did (instead he's got a lot of attention for it, which he wanted) and the fact that he's now at Hope Not Hate, which spreads misinformation, suggests he's not such a great person now after all"
ripx4nutmeg on X - "No time served. A man who wasn't jailed for (claiming) he carried out a hammer attack on women in a library now demands that other people are jailed for saying mean things online"

Andy Ngô 🏳️‍🌈 on X - "Brighton, England, Aug. 7 — At the leftist protest in support of migrants, a protester held up a shirt in front of @sussex_police that urged for the murder of “Nazis.” The left-wing protesters say that anyone who opposes mass migration are Nazis."

Politics UK on X - "🚨 NEW: Labour is considering introducing an agreed definition of Islamophobia [@DominicPenna]"
Sohail Ahmed on X - "This will effectively suppress genuine criticism of traditionalist & radical forms of Islam. We need criticism. Otherwise, how will change ever happen? I wish I had been openly criticised in school; I would have deradicalised much earlier. Instead, focus on anti-Muslim bigotry."

Tech giants will be forced to ban fake news under Labour plans - "Tech companies will be forced to ban fake news from their platforms under plans being considered by the Government in the wake of the riots.  Sir Keir Starmer suggested on Friday that the Government would review social media laws as part of efforts to prevent further disorder.  The Telegraph understands that ministers are looking at introducing a duty on social media companies to restrict “legal but harmful” content.  It could mean that firms are required to remove or suppress posts spreading fake news about asylum seekers or other topics such as self-harm, even if they do not meet the threshold for illegality... The plans come after a row between Elon Musk who owns X, formerly known as Twitter, and the Prime Minister over his handling of the riots. The potential crackdown on tech companies would likely form part of a review of the Online Safety Act, which was passed last year. The Act requires platforms to take “robust action” against illegal content and activity and will be implemented gradually.  A “legal but harmful” clause, requiring firms to take down or restrict the visibility of content deemed to be dangerous but not against the law, was included in the original Bill brought forward by the Tories in 2022.  However, it was removed because of free-speech concerns, with critics warning it could allow a future Labour government to censor controversial material.  Kemi Badenoch, a candidate for the Tory leadership, previously described it as “legislating for hurt feelings”.  The clause was replaced with a new “triple-shield” of protections, including a duty on firms to give users the tools to filter out content that they do not want to see... A woman has also been arrested on suspicion of publishing written material to stir up racial hatred and false communications. The latter is a crime under the Online Safety Act, which makes it illegal to convey information that a person knows to be false if they intend the message to cause non-trivial psychological or physical harm to a likely audience.  It means people who knowingly spread harmful fake news online can be prosecuted or punished but it is more difficult to crack down on the platforms that host the content.  The prospect of the “legal but harmful” clause being brought back will raise questions about who will decide what is classed as “harmful” and how it will be policed.  It has also sparked concerns that legitimate comments in newspapers could be censored by social media sites which consider it to be damaging. Sir Iain Duncan Smith, the former Tory leader, said: “You are opening the door to endless vexatious complaints, so that all news media and all comment becomes stifled because one reader may disagree with it and say it’s harmful to them because that’s how they feel.  “It risks setting up the online companies as judge and jury and using their own opinions to decide what is published, which may in themselves disagree with yours. But does that make it harmful?”  Under the existing rules in the Online Safety Act, there are protections for journalists. Articles from news publishers are exempt from tech firms’ duty to remove content. Esther McVey, the former Tory Cabinet minister, said “perfectly legal comments” could be targeted by an “unelected thought police”.  “This is the sinister and authoritarian side of Keir Starmer’s Labour Party. This would drive a coach and horses through the principle of free speech,” she said.  “For the Government to allow the removal of perfectly legal comments by an unelected thought police would be completely unacceptable in what is supposed to be a free country.”... Polling suggests that the majority of Britons think social media companies have done a bad job at tackling misinformation during the riots, with a new YouGov survey finding 71 per cent take that view."

Meme - David Atherton @DaveAtherton20: "Head of the Met Police Sir Mark Rowley warns even people abroad will be arrested for mean posts. He seems to infer also @elonmusk .  With the First Amendment I don't think an extradition request it'd get past the most under qualified lawyer."
Mike Benz @MikeBenzCyber: "the way this turd in a badge smiles with impish glee when he says “we will come after you” — they love this new expansion of state power at their fingertips, it makes each one of them feel like a God"

Count Dankula on X - "The American-UK extradition treaty is based on dual criminality. The act has to be considered a crime in both countries for extradition to take place. Since America has the 1st Amendment, thereby making the speech not a crime there, no extradition can take place. Retarded police commissioner doesn't even know the law.

GOV.UK on X - "Think before you post."
Melissa Chen on X - "The UK government thinks 1984 is an instruction manual This country has become an Orwellian dystopia, with arrests made for social media posts (even just retweets), hyper-surveillance, the existence of “non-crime hate incidents,” two-tier policing and constant government overreach except on the issues that British people overwhelmingly voted for - mass migration, Brexit - then the government just sucks and vanishes, doing nothing about it.  The social contract is broken."

John LeFevre on X - "Britain has fallen.   If you say something that the government disagrees with, you can be arrested.   If you share a fact or a statistic that the government deems "offensive", you can be arrested.   As a proud British citizen from Royal Tunbridge Wells, who lived and worked in London, I can say the once-great United Kingdom has been on a managed decline since 1945, even before they opened their doors and wallets to millions of uneducated, unvetted, unskilled, criminally-orientated migrants.   King Charles is a doofus (and a climate change hypocrite), and the national reverence for the Royal Family is just pitiful.
The entire culture is built around embracing mediocrity. They live vicariously through the successes and failures of their football teams.
-> Win: "Oi, let's get sloshed."
-> Lose: "Gutted, mate. Let's 'ave a pint."
Old money Brits have chips on their shoulders; they feel entitled, but are cash poor. They'll let anyone buy respectability. This is why London has embraced the RAVs - Russians, Arabs, and Villains.   In the United States, TV shows are aspirational with iconic characters like JR Ewing. In the UK, the most popular show is about an ugly, lower class, pub landlord.
@rustyrockets  is a rare, sensible export, which probably explains why he's been demonized. @piersmorgan  is their controlled opposition, but even he, despite a mildly-sycophantic disposition, got cancelled. David Beckham got chased out of the country; now, he's living in Miami and is worth $500 million. We tried James Corden, but had to send him back.  They invented the modern rule of law, and now, countries like Romania laugh at them when they try to extradite one of their own citizens - @Cobratate  - or have him jailed without due process over flimsy charges that had already been dismissed.  British men are pale, fat, drunks. The women are walking muffin tops, but think they're 10s. They need to either get hotter, or lose their attitude.
Even the appliances are built for idiots. The shower knob has a safety mechanism to prevent people from scalding themselves. And the dryers remain locked until the temperature cools to a "safe" level.  In the words of @rickygervais , American children are taught that anyone can grow up to be President, while Brits are taught that equivalent greatness will never happen to them.  And of course, now, you can go to jail for a texting a meme, calling a police officer a lesbian, or misgendering the mentally ill. And you'll get arrested for just the possibility of offending a terrorist sympathizer in public.  They even threaten to arrest a man wearing a yarmulke because his mere presence on a public street could "incite violence" from a terrorist-sympathizer."

Meme - Alan @A1an_M: "When newspapers with very different political views all cover the same story on their front pages with exactly the same narrative - and almost exactly the same words!  - it's not the newspapers speaking.  It's the government and the intelligence services.  Goodnight."
The Telegraph: "Thousands of counter-protesters crowd out planned far-Right rallies"
The Guardian: "Thousands of anti-racism protesters take to streets across England to counter far-right rallies"
The Daily Mail: "Far right ... far outnumbered: Thousands of counter-protesters flock on to British streets to crowd out anti-immigration demos planned at '100 sites' - leaving agitators in Brighton seeking protection from police as the country remains largely calm"
The Mirror: "THIS IS ENGLAND: Thousands of anti-racists turn out to protest against far-right rampages blighting Britain in astonishing scenes after thugs plot carnage"

UK braces for more far-right violence : r/anime_titties - "This wasn't even the trigger. The trigger was likely the recent Southport stabbings of children."
"That's like saying that BLM started because of George Floyd's murder.  I mean, well, yes but it's not really about that, it's about a feeling of injustice that is not addressed year after year, and so resentment grows and it ends up like this."
UK braces for more far-right violence : r/anime_titties - "I am old enough to remember when they would call the opposition with different opinions CITIZENS. We are all citizens and we have different views. Calling every person who disagrees with you a far right just tells me they have zero interest in listening to their complaints."
UK braces for more far-right violence : r/anime_titties - "Hell yeah. Riots and looting are the voices of the unheard!"
"Well, they were when Black people rioted."

Kader Boumediene🎗 on X - "Cette scène est choquante. Le gouvernement 🇬🇧 sombre dans l'infamie en s'alliant avec les ultra-fondamentalistes, les pires ennemis de la démocratie. Il commet le plus grand outrage envers les🙎‍♀️libres et met gravement en danger la liberté de conscience. #2tierpolicing .
C'est un retour à l'obscurantisme du Moyen-Âge que véhicule le salafisme.  #islamFascisme  #Emeutes et #EnoughIsEnough. @TRobinsonNewEra  #2TierKeir #NeverLabour #RoyaumUni."

Meme - Geo_monitor @colonelhomsi: "Arrests for social media posts!  Hey, we're falling behind the "free world" again!"
"Arrests for social media posts
Russia - 411
United Kingdom - 3,300"

Meme - Sophie Corcoran @sophielouisecc: "In 2013 Keir Starmer said that too many twitter prosecutions can damage free speech   He is now PM and and people are getting arrested for tweeting and even retweeting.  @elonmusk"
"Too many Twitter prosecutions could damage free speech, says DPP. Freedom of speech will be under threat if too many people are taken to court over offensive messages on social media, the country's top prosecutor warned yesterday."
When Twitter was controlled by the left, prosecuting tweets was dangerous. Now that Twitter is no longer controlled by the left, tweets must be prosecuted

Anonymous Zoomer. "Where is the #MeToo outrage over this?" - "Here are five things that happened in the UK and Ireland over the last six months.  First, in January 2024, an Afghan asylum-seeker named Abdul Ezedi threw acid on a mother and her two children, leaving them with ‘life-changing’ injuries. A few years earlier, Ezedi had been convicted of sexual assault and exposing himself. He was placed on the sex offender register for ten years. In 2020, after ‘converting’ to Christianity, a vicar testified for his asylum, which he was granted.  Second, in March 2024, a criminal gang led by Syrian brothers Omar and Mohamed Badreddin was prosecuted for grooming and raping a 13-year-old girl. The girl was raped repeatedly in her own home by the brothers, who moved to the UK as Syrian refugees. The girl was “groomed” with alcohol and cigarettes.  Third, in April 2024, asylum seeker Anicet Mayela pleaded guilty to raping a 15 year old girl in Oxford. Mayela, who had once campaigned outside a detention centre with a sign that read “migrants are not criminals”, had arrived in the UK illegally in 2004. He was due to be deported back to Congo a year later, but members of a cabin crew, who opposed the deportation, stopped the plane from taking off. Fourth, last month, in July 2024, a 33-year-old male asylum seeker, who could not speak English, was charged with raping a woman at a leisure centre in Ennis, Ireland.  And then, also last month, asylum-seeker Adel Kerai was jailed after sexually assaulting a woman in public, who he had followed around Dublin city centre for thirty minutes. Kerai had only arrived five days earlier from Algeria, where he said he was being discriminated against because of his political beliefs.  What do all these things have in common, aside from having all taken place this year? They are horrific crimes that were committed against women and girls by men who are accustomed to sex-segregated societies, in which there is one rule for men and another rule for women —rules which oppress and objectify young women like me... We are the most liberal generation in history, especially young women who over the last decade have been moving sharply to the cultural left.  We believe, passionately, that women have the same rights as men. We can wear what we like. And we can aspire to do what we like. Britain, in short, should be one of the best places in the world to be a woman.  But this ideal is now under threat. Why?  Because our extreme policy of mass immigration has brought with it a minority of men who have a forceful and very particular contempt for women.  The simple fact is that ongoing mass immigration from mainly Muslim countries is threatening the hard-won rights of women in Western liberal societies... As a young woman who recently moved to London, I can tell you —I’m scared. And so too are many of my young female friends —even if they dare not voice their fears because they will be branded “racist” or “Islamophobic”.  There is now a low-level culture of oppression and intimidation, which we experience on an almost daily basis, on things like public transport and while walking through the most highly diverse neighbourhoods of our capital city.  And we are furious; furious because the elite class is not even willing to talk about it.  Every time another horrific sexual attack on a woman is splashed across the news, everyone – from politicians to police – appear genuinely shocked.  They lay wreaths and flowers. They condemn the violence. But they then do absolutely nothing to confront the nature of the challenge. One of the only people who has spoken openly about this problem is scholar Ayaan Hirsi Ali, originally from Somalia, who herself received asylum in the Netherlands.  Her book Prey: Immigration, Islam, and the Erosion of Women’s Rights, is perhaps the only one in recent years to pull back the curtain to discuss this problem openly.  Hirsi Ali argues, convincingly, that not only have women in Europe faced a barrage of sexual harassment, rape and violence since the start of the migration crisis, in 2015, but now also have to navigate the “be kind” klaxon among liberals, whereby the elite class refuse to acknowledge the problem because of fears of being seen as “racist”... The problem for the elite class is that there have been times when the problem has simply become unavoidable, when it has forced its way into media headlines.  Such as the wave of sexual assaults on New Year’s Eve in Germany, nearly a decade ago —an event my friends and I followed on social media and found utterly shocking... Of the 153 suspects in the city of Cologne, nearly all were foreign, including 103 from Morocco and Algeria. Sixty-eight were asylum seekers. How exceptional was this?  It’s difficult to know because, as Ayaan Hirsi Ali notes, many governments in the West are now also working overtime to try and conceal data on the race and ethnicity of people who commit these crimes in their countries.  In Britain, for example, this data is simply not made available.  For young women like me, this is infuriating. If you don’t want people spreading “misinformation” then how about you start by making information available?  What are you scared of? In the academic literature, too, the vast majority of studies that do exist look mainly at the impact of sexual violence on female asylum-seekers and migrants, rather than the impact on women in the receiving countries, which tells you a lot about the liberal bias that exists within the social sciences and humanities —they don’t want to look.  This makes it difficult to build a reliable picture of what’s going on.  But there have been some notable exceptions, almost all of which, like those examples above, suggest we have a major problem, albeit one that liberals routinely ignore... As a recent female graduate of one of the most elite universities in the country, my friends and I have listened to more #MeToo talks on consent and “toxic masculinity” than most people have had hot dinners.  But, sadly, I know, as many of my friends do, that violence, including sexual violence, against women and girls in Western democracies is now a huge issue.  Yet not one of my university professors or workshops ever addressed the enormous elephant in the room, which now faces women like me across the West. This is the fact that many crimes are perpetrated by a specific demographic: male asylum seeker, often Muslim, who in the left’s identity politics matrix get a free pass."
Silly girl. Doesn't she know that #MeToo is only for white men?

Meme - AJAC @AJA_Cortes: "Tried watching V for Vendetta. recently  its odd, because its directionally accurate on  the long term descent of the UK into a big brother police state.  But the vision of pro white, fascist christian government is so laughably wrong.   its become the literal opposite *Strength through unity. Unity through faith*"

Matt Goodwin on X - "NEW POST. Anonymous Zoomer: "We spent years talking about #MeToo but why does nobody in the elite class want to talk about how mass immigration is undermining women and girls in the West like me?"
"Many Western governments deliberately hide data on the race and ethnicity of criminals, including people who assault women. If you don’t want people spreading “misinformation” then how about you start by making this information available?""
i/o on X - "It's not just that Western governments often hide the data they have on the race and ethnicity of violent criminals, but some will investigate or publicly condemn academics and journalists who obtain the data and publish it.   The situation is better in the US, but even here data on immigrants and crime isn't typically federally collected, making it difficult to determine the impact immigration has on crime. (Although the data we do have, usually collected at the state level, indicates that, unlike in Europe, immigrants to the US from the developing world do not commit crime at higher rates than native-borns.)"

Daily Mail Online on X - "Keyboard warrior, 35, who earned £1,400 a month from his X account is jailed for three years after 'instigating' riots with posts - sparking questions for owner Elon Musk over his site's content"
Austen Allred on X - "A guy gets thrown in jail for three years for saying things like, “People of Southport get out on the street”, “Give ‘em hell lads,” and “Hold the line.” And you think the questions it raises are for Elon Musk?"
On Wayne O'Rourke
Weird. The left wing-approved mobs who mobilised were praised

Meme - UK Policeman: "Together we will make this country yours"
Muslim Man: "Thank you for being so weak"

Thread by @Will_Tanner_1 on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App - "Yes, this is actually happening in Britain, but it’s not new or innovative.  The Bolsheviks did the same thing.  A short 🧵👇
First, as a reminder for those who don’t know what is going on, riots in Britain started after an Islamist butchered three young English girls and the government, currently headed by socialist Labour PM Starmer, did pretty much nothing. Years of frustration about immigration, legal and illegal, turned to riots. Starmer responded by cracking down on the English for protesting and now is locking up people for even retweeting posts siding with the rioters. So, now, Starmer is letting actual criminals out of jail so that Englishmen who simply don’t want their daughters murdered can be stuffed into prison. This is horrifying, but it’s not new
When the Bolsheviks acceded to power, they opened up the jails and freed all the violent criminals.  General Wrangel describes this happening in Crimea, and Gustav Krist, the Austrian prisoner of war who wrote Prisoner in the Forbidden Land describes the same thing happening in Central Asia. After the prisoners were free, the Bolsheviks established the Red Guards. The Bolsheviks weren’t freeing prisoners because they had kind hearts or disagreed with the idea of prison. They went on to kill tens of millions in prison camps, as we all know. Rather, it was about establishing control over the population. It’s a whole lot harder to think about the political system when you’re starving and having to deal with a huge crime wave, after all, the the freed prisoners create the anarchic conditions in which Bolshevism thrives. There’s not really much else to say about it other than that the Bolsheviks thrived on the anarchic conditions their prison policies created, then went on to fill the prisons right back up, only this time with political prisoners rather than real criminals. Solzhenitsyn described the communist attitude toward crime quite well:
So, that’s what Starmer is now doing.  Like the Bolsheviks, he’s letting real criminals go free do that the prisons can be crowded with political prisoners whose only crime is having a different opinion of immigration than he does. The state sees that as necessary because crime isn’t a threat to its rule, whereas an angry populace of competent people could be"
Anarcho-tyranny explained

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn on X - "“Your punishment for having a knife when they searched you would be very different from the thief’s. For him to have a knife was mere misbehavior, tradition, he didn’t know any better. But for you to have one was ‘terrorism.’” #Solzhenitsyn"

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