BBC Radio 4 - Moral Maze, Sochi
Andrew Fagan, University of Essex Human Rights Centre:
"Perhaps with the exception of some Scandinavian countries... all states violate human rights to a certain degree. Some do so almost accidentally, some do so almost as the very raison d'etre for their existence. It's a real problem, clearly confronting human rights as a human rights defender requires a realistic appraisal of just how widespread human rights violations are"