"As a matter of principle, I never attend the first annual anything." - George Carlin

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Me to a Jakarta-n: but anyway I not really interested in your hometonw
HAHA

Someone: yeah me neither


Frigid Girl: Millionaire Munir Hussain who fought off a knife-wielding burglar is jailed (while the intruder is let off)

"A millionaire businessman who fought back against a knife-wielding burglar was jailed for two-and-a-half years yesterday. But his attacker has been spared prison...

Mr Hussain and his brother then beat Salem while he lay on the ground, using a cricket bat, a pole and a hockey stick - leaving him with a fractured skull and brain damage following the 'sustained' attack.

Salem's condition meant he was unable to enter a plea to false imprisonment. He was given a non-custodial sentence-in October...

Judge Reddihough sentenced Munir Hussain to 30 months in jail for grievous bodily harm with intent. Tokeer was given 39 months because the judge said he had not faced as much provocation as his brother."

tihs is really really silly

Me: well if someone broke into your house should you be allowed to shoot him?

Frigid Girl: yes

Me: if someone molests you should you be allowed to break his arm?

Frigid Girl: yes

Me: no
there is something called disproportionate force

Frigid Girl: well, the problem is, in the heat of the moment, everything happens in a flash of an eye

like, the burglar tied up your family
yo're not about to stop and calcultae what's 'proportionate force'
your first instinct is to save your life and property

Me: yes, well, that's one factor
but the same can be said of crimes of passion
and many cases of homicide

we still punish these people

have you watched american history x?
there's this scene where edward norton catches some black guys trying to steal his car

so he catches one
and kills him
I forgot how. either by putting his head on the corner of the curb and dashing it in
or by whacking him to death with a baseball bat
or something

no self-defense is not justifiable to any degree

Frigid Girl: so you're suddenly christian about this
when someone slaps you you turn the other cheek?

Me: what does being christian have to do with anything

it's not about turning the other cheek
it's about using proportionate force

this is how fights happen

people think that someone is staring at them
so they go and beat the person up

I think the burglar should've been jailed also
and the businessman given a light sentence

Frigid Girl: eh this is crazy lor. the guy broke into the house, tied up the entire family, and is looting
and you said he's using disproportionate force

Me: he whacked the guy until he got brain damage

Frigid Girl: so it's only propotionate if the guy stabs one of the familymembers
a bit too late by the time he does it

Me: no
then it's called revenge
and that's wrong also

Frigid Girl: no

Me: it's the same reason you are not supposed to shoot defenceless enemy soldiers in war
but take them as POWs
there's this thing called the geneva convention

anyway I think 30+ months is too much
a year would've been enough

"Mr Hussain and his brother then beat Salem while he lay on the ground, using a cricket bat, a pole and a hockey stick - leaving him with a fractured skull and brain damage following the 'sustained' attack."

wah lao this is vicious

notice that he was not convicted for throwing the coffee table
or of tackling him even

Frigid Girl: if a guy broke into my houes
i'll be so scared that i'll really kill him if he got close enough
hahahha

Me: you're a girl so they will probably let you off

Frigid Girl: bleah

machiavelli said it - Men ought either to be indulged or utterly destroyed, for if you merely offend them they take vengeance, but if you injure them greatly they are unable to retaliate, so that the injury done to a man ought to be such that vengeance cannot be feared.

Me: if someone calls you machiavellian, it's not praise


Someone: : reading ur article [on violence against women]
i kinda agree haha

is better to be a woman nowadays
most of the time anyway
but only if you are a graduate
i think if you are like poly type there is still alot of
"unenlightened" types haha

Me: you mean it's bad to be non-graduate woman cos of "unenlightened" men?

Someone: : yar
and women themselves wont know their new found "rights"

if u see the upper parts of society
most women are like more dominant in the relationship
like most of my friends have the man wrapped round their finger

Me: one of my favourite examples is the woman who slapped an air stewardess cos she
thought she was hitting on the husband
in the end, fine
the best part: the man paid for it in the end

HURR HURR. sad for the men of your friends

Someone: : -_-
women damn neurotic

Me: yah I also say

Someone: : but its true right
most girls are in power

or is it just my friends

Me: go do survey